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R/T
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10/02/2002
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My friend has one of these and there is no was in #### it was as fast as my R/T. ZR2's are for offroad anyways they come raised from the factory. These Truck are so narrow that there width is shorter then there hight. I would love to see u try and pull a turn going 30 cause u would go flying. I looked at these trucks when i was looking at for my R/T. One they drive like there as wide as paper. There bumby as hell more bumby than my R/T and they sound like crap. I have more if u want to hear it!! Plus they look deformed. The only reason why i didnt get was cause i couldnt find a used one for under 17,000 bucks and most of them where beat to crap. Lucky i came by a truck called and R/T which i had never heard of and i drove it and next thing i knew it was in the driveway.
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INYAMOUFF
Dodge Dakota
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10/18/2002
18:29:49
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OK, I don't know how much most of you know about perf. but a 3.9l beating a 4.3l. Umm......and then you woke up with the sheets wet. I can see it being a good race with a 5.9l r/t or a 4.7l. I've got a 98 4.3l ZQ8 5spd 2wd with a STILLEN intake, JBA catforward headers, Gibosn catback exh., pullies, JET II chip & thermo., & MSD ignition. She's not the fastest truck with the stock 3.08 gearing but she'll eat a 3.9l & hold even with a stock R/T. Don't get me wrong if I had waited a year to get a new truck it would have been the R/T but it wasn't out yet & the ZQ8 suspension was the best (out there) at the time. Just be carfull what you rev. that 3.9l sport at when sitting at a red light because a 4.3l SS, ZQ8, or XTREME will eat you without trying
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IntenseDak39
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10/18/2002
20:00:36
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"3.9l sport at when sitting at a red light because a 4.3l SS, ZQ8, or XTREME will eat you without trying"
you talk about your modded 4.3 beating a 3.9...
my modded 3.9 will BEAT your 4.3!
mods:
k&n filter
TB0301 Turbocharger
24 lb injectors
1.7 roller rockers
magnum performance tb
jba header (only one/other custom built)
msd 6a ignition
msd 8.5 mm wires
msd blaster 3 coil
modified intake manifold
derale oil cooler
oil filter relocater
160 thermostat
autolite 3923 s.p.
about 300lbs weight reduction
comp. engineering 150# springs
comp. engineering drag shocks
comp. engineering coilover kit
chassis tech ladderbars/panhard bar
shift kit
b&m ratchet shifter
it should be running by tomorrow!!!!
muhahahahahah muhahahahahaha!!!!!!!
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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GenIII
10/18/2002
21:50:34
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damn...when did you throw a turbo on that
beast?....you still gonna squeeze some of that
funny gas?
Oh BTW...dont even step with the 4.3's, soooo
weak, and I had the friggin rental sonoma for
a month to prove it! what a POS, I couldnt wait
to return it.
inyamouf::: you wanna run? 4.7 or 5.9 a good
race my ass...hmmm I wonder why I dont see
any S-10's racing at the track, Oh cause they
suck ass, unless a small block is hiding
under the hood. good luck wasting money on
that money pit of a motor.
2001 4.7 CC auto
shaved door handles & tailgate
welded Sir Michaels roll pan
DJM drop 3/6
airaid intake
180 stat, ported-polished TB
Dynomax 3" dumped carsound cat
HO cams/manifold, Sure Grip & 3.92's collecting dust!
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/18/2002
22:00:49
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I've been planning on working with a 4.3l s-10.Personally I don't think they suck at all.I still prefer the dodge though.
My plans for an s-10:K&N gen.2,msd ignition,flowmaster exhaust,jba headers,vortech sc, hypertech chip,3.73 rearend,5/7 drop,275/40/17 wheels and tires,and a 100 shot if I'm not satisfied.
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/18/2002
22:00:50
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I've been planning on working with a 4.3l s-10.Personally I don't think they suck at all.I still prefer the dodge though.
My plans for an s-10:K&N gen.2,msd ignition,flowmaster exhaust,jba headers,vortech sc, hypertech chip,3.73 rearend,5/7 drop,275/40/17 wheels and tires,and a 100 shot if I'm not satisfied.
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GenIII
10/18/2002
22:10:24
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good luck fitting those tires on the front with a
5-7 drop...I had a 4-5 drop on my 98 with
235/45/17 and it rubbed like crazy. they will
easily fit in the rear but without any cutting in
the front, there is no way.
oh yes, they most definately suck...very cheap
to mod (good), but very common (bad) and
very slow (bad) and by the time you finish
supercharging and squeezing that antique
motor, you probably wouldnt be able to touch
a mildly modded (bolt ons) V8 dak.
2001 4.7 CC auto
shaved door handles & tailgate
welded Sir Michaels roll pan
DJM drop 3/6
airaid intake
180 stat, ported-polished TB
Dynomax 3" dumped carsound cat
HO cams/manifold, Sure Grip & 3.92's collecting dust!
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IntenseDak39
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10/18/2002
23:45:13
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D,
i have been working on it for the last couple of weeks. I finally just got a throttle body hat today so i can finish up my plumbing... going to go get some gaskets for my oil inlet/outlet flanges tomorrow and i will be done!!!
I have seen two S10's race at the local 1/8th mile. Not sure of all there mods but they had AT LEAST an aftermarket exhaust and intake. one was an extended cab xtreme and ran 11.3s and the other a standard cab that was hitting 10.9s and 11s.
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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afi360
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10/19/2002
02:10:25
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god how i hope you say you are from around chicago....if you EVER want to get on the line with me and my r/t.....ill even give you 4 lengths...thats how sure i am ill waste you.
i hate it when sally-six cylinder chebbys talk smack to anything with a v8...the whole mindset of a chevy 'xtreme' owner is boggling to the mind. its $25000 and its slow as pi$$!! what are you thinking?!?!
go fast or go home, little sister s10...
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NOSDART68
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
16:11:36
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Hahahaha Sally Six Cylinder, that's great.
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Chevy
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
16:45:52
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for those who don't know a 4.3 is the same as a 350 minus 2 pistons.so you build it the same way and beat 4.7 or 5.9.and you could do for a resonable price too.
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yates-in-DE
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10/19/2002
17:23:50
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Well that's reasuring, no problem beating a 4.3 then. I haven't been taken by any of the Small Blocks around here yet (not saying that theres not one that can't but that hasn't).
Later,
MyVW Killer
Lynn
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
17:25:23
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I've got a 5.9 rt already.It runs around a 13.3 with slicks on.I know rts are faster, but if you add it up, that s-10 would have about 305 horses at the rear wheels without the nitrous.
I'm solid Dodge.Didn't mean to piss anyone off.
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IntenseDak39
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10/19/2002
22:13:13
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"for those who don't know a 4.3 is the same as a 350 minus 2 pistons.so you build it the same way and beat 4.7 or 5.9.and you could do for a resonable price too."
so are you saying that you're so stupid that you think the same mod does increases the same amount of power on a 4.3 as a 5.7? HELLO?... you're still missing two pistons!!!! TORQUE!!!!!!
my dad had a 4.3 s10 a few years back (slow).... they got rid of it and got a 5.7 LS1 camaro.... I guess he didnt realize that by putting the same mods on his S10 he wouldnt of needed to get the camaro.
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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F-150
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
22:43:14
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Who cares, the Lightning with 500 dollars in mods (chip, filter and a pully) will run 12s and stop the sh!t out of all of you.
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
22:47:10
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All of us ain't stock either you moron.
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IntenseDak39
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10/19/2002
22:52:38
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so.... my $15,000 truck with $20,000 worth of mods will beat a lightning and cost just a little shy of one with $500 worth of mods!
wait..... my truck has already beat lightnings!! and with less than $2500 worth of mods... crap, you loose
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
22:54:44
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Oh man, I can't stop laughing. hahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahah
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F-150
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
23:31:31
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After all that work(and money, so you didn't save anything) you may be as fast or slightly faster than a stock Lightning(newer Lightnings are about .5 seconds faster than 99s and 00s), but you're still driving an uglier, common compact truck. Your made to go fast dak is now in the same class as those old hopped up VW bugs and V8 Pintos, not with the Lightnings or any SVT or other performance brand/nameplate. The Lightning demands respect, even stock, it's the mark all of you modders are shooting for. Face it.
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
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If you can show me timeslips on a Lightning that runs a 13.2 or better, I'll give them credit for being able to whoop my dakota.
I give the Lightning plenty of respect, you should give it to the Dakotas around here.I never discredited a Lightning.I'm even considering buying one myself.
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buddy jones
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
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I've spent less than $18,000 on my truck(including it).So all of that money that I didn't save is about $14 grand in my wallet right now.With all you've got you would be the one broke don't you think?
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F-150
Dodge Dakota
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10/19/2002
23:58:23
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I am far from broke, believe me. I admit I give you guys a bunch of sh!t, mainly because I have come to dislike my Dakota and I used to come here looking for info and all I got was disappointment after money dummped into my R/T. Now that I have other toys, I raz the R/Ts a bit.
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Fubar512
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10/20/2002
00:10:08
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Talk to us when your mighty Triton V8 develops its inevitable wrist pin knock...or suffers its first dead cylinder. I've seen 5.4s go within 10,000 miles. And, yet, they have the temerity to go out and SUPERCHARGE these things? Muhahaha!
If I wanted to go twelve’s, I would have bought myself a nice, used, LS-1 powered F-body. You see, they don’t require superchargers to develop almost the same rated horsepower as the Phord.
Oh, and one more thing, my “little” Dakota can at least tow a real trailer..well over 5,000 lbs. Try that in a (full-sized) Lightning.
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F-150
Dodge Dakota
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10/20/2002
00:27:06
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If it does go tits up, I will get it fixed or trade it, I don't depend on it to be running all the time, I have other things to drive, remember I called these trucks my toys. And when, not if, I need to tow I won't be using the Lightning to tow with. I will cross that path when I get there, maybe a low mile used Chevy HD. As far as the Ls1, you're right it's a good engine, I just hate the F bodys and I am a truck guy, but that said, I am considering that new GTO. Now that could have me in a car again. I don't know what number of vehicles I will stop at, but my house I am having built has a three car garage adjacent to the house, but a four car garage/workshop apart from the house.
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chevy
Dodge Dakota
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10/20/2002
00:32:19
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intensedak39,I wasn't talking about puting the same mods on.I' talking about it has the same bore and stroke so you could build it the same way.may not get the torque. but you can get more horse power.I saw one bullt like that and it ran mid 12's.
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IntenseDak39
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10/20/2002
00:37:00
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you know i paid $13,100 for my truck... put in about $3000 in mods (not all performance mods either) and beat NEW lightnings at my local track. I guess i needed to save that $3000 and spent $30,000ish on a new lightning... now how would that have saved me money?
besides, a V6 sport dakota that can whoop a lightning is a damn good sleeper. I am sorry for your misfortune with your R/T... personally i didnt want to spend the money on one because $20,000 for 250 hp wasnt a good deal to me.
as for the VW/pinto comment..
i kill turbocharged VW naturally aspirated... and the only V8 pinto i have seen around here was on a trailer and it pulled 9 second 1/4s.
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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tex69camaro
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2002
14:18:03
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wow what a pissing contest this has turned into. whith all the numbers flying arround it makes me wonder who has actually ran these car/trucks themselves. magazine numbers arent really worth a damn. corrections are for sissy's. a 13 sec (at the local 1/4 on any sat night, in street trim) daily driver is a fast car/truck. no doubt there. be it some rice-grinder or a dakota. my 33 year old camaro is a bit quicker than that and i drive it from florida to texas (and back) 3 times a year. true street cars who go fast are so freaking cool. now ive picked up a dakota and im doing the 318 swap so i can have something that will be a bit more tame for the longer trips but still not be a slug. i am a chevy guy, but if i would have found a ranger, or s/10 for the same price as i got my dak, i would be doing a 302 or 350 swap. point is get to the track and run your crap, bench racing is not cool.
TEX
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Jacque
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2002
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A stock 3.9 will take a 4.3 every time no doubt. With equal mods, the same thing will happen. A guy where I live has a five speed 3.9 Dakota (bone stock). He has outrun every S-10 in this area. After he beat 2 or 3 of them, it was like they were determined to beat him. So far, no one has made him taste defeat. Some of them were not stock S-10's either. Although they want own up to it. So for someone to say a S-10 can outrun a 3.9 Dakota, the only thing I can say is what was wrong with the Dakota. Must have had a spark plug wire pulled off or something. I have seen a bunch of S-10 guys boost of what they were going to do that didn't have much to say after they were outrun.
As far the Lightning goes, that statement about putting $500 in one and running 12's I don't doubt it. There is this little runt of a guy here that owns 2001 Lightning. He has a few mods on it. He has let people ride with him when he races it and it runs about 105 in the quarter. He has outrun a bunch of people. He ran a friend of mine that has 94 Dakota 318 5-speed with 3.92 gears. His Dakota is stock other than dual exhaust. Well, the first time they ran he got beat pretty good. Probably 10 lengths or more. Thats alright, he just wanted to know how good the Lightning ran vs. his truck. Well, that little runt went to running his mouth about how my friend could do anything to his Dakota he wanted he wouldn't EVER outrun his Lightning. Boy, whas that the wrong thing to say. My friend told him he would take that challenge. That he was going to shut him up. He was going to put no2 on it, but I talked him out of it. I told him it would look worse on the Lightning to beat him without it. So my friend borrowed my MP computer and we made a few mods to the Dakota. We put the word out on the street that the Dakota was more than ready for the Lightning. It was well known that I helped with some of his mods. We told him that he wouldn't just get beat by car length either. He firgured that we had hooked up the no2 after we said we would not. He was told he could inspect the truck top to bottom if he wanted. He was asured he that there would be no no2 bottle in the truck much less the no2 plumbing. Well what happens. I will tell you what. Nothing at all. You can't even get this Lightning to come around anymore. Nobody has talked to him. I, for one, can't figure out why. The mods we made were done in less than a day. Someone said that he wouldn't run since he knew we had the no2 hooked up. My friend asked someone that was there that day he last raced him if he remembered correctly that little sawed off s#*t saying it didn't matter what we did to the Dakota. We repeated it again. ANYBODY could inspect it top to bottom inside and out. They wouldn't find any no2. STILL a no show. Do you know why? Because he KNOWS my friend isn't just wasting his time to race him. BIG MOUTH can't back it up! I am not saying a Lightning isn't a very fast truck. At $30,000, it better be fast. You can take a fraction of that amount on a Dakota and outrun a Lightning. If you want someone to outrun a 12 second Lightning, I'll just hook up the no2. One power adder vs. one power adder.
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afi360
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10/21/2002
20:20:07
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hehehehlolol muahahahah f-150.....he said 'youre driving a common truck blah blah'....wow...carve an svt on the side plunk a blower on me and ill be just as fast...and not have such a loud mouth....if you want to come to chicago in the spring, and go for pinks....be my guest...otherwise, try to figure out what youre talking about...
buddy jones...i dont know if youre cool or not, but if you expect me to swallow the 'house with a 3 car garage and a shop for 4 cars' story, you really must take a lesson in reality...sounds just like all the 4 second cars every kid around here has in their garage that doesnt have...the right...lugnuts....thats why its not out on the street today...yea.
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DW
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2002
03:21:26
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Wah Wah, Try out a 350 S-10.
Tweeked 10-1 350 SBC
150 HP Nitrous
Built 4 speed auto
4.10 gears
Narrowed 9"
2800#
This baby moooooves, Lets go to the track,,,
Opps, sorry this was supposed to be for stock trucks, I couldn't resist. Stock S-10's are a POS, gutless wonder. Love my 00 Dak because it has AC and gets better mileage than my S-10. Dak body design looks better too.
BTW, need to sell the S-10 $$$, too many vehicles and need to get rid of the toy.
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