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J.D.
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3/16/2002
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2001 S-10 ZR2 4X4, JBA, High flow stainless cat,Raven 2.5 Duals with split O2 sensors, Granetteli MAF, airaid intake, 58mm throttle body,TBA 1 inch intake spacer, 8% underdrive pulleys, heads decked,polished,ported and flow benched by RCR racing, stock 3:73 front /rear diff, re-mapped shift points and rpm limiter, accel digital high fire ignition and coil with hypertech chip for fuel mapping and air mixture...
all for about 7500.00 less than the 2002 R/T extra cab I had purchased......but it would STILL hold its own against any STOCK R/T or moderately modified Dakata or durango...BEFORE it was modified...objectively the dodge V-8 is underpwered and seriously lacking in performance..as car and driver shows as well as road and track, the R/T is WAY overpriced and UNDER performing...it is still the prettiest truck rolling off any assembly line anywhere...even if my wife did pick the PURPLE color scheme...My S10 is a "work truck" that I modified since it was cheaper than building a Custom harley.....still get better MPG than my stock r/t...with the ladder rack and tol boxes full........
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IntenseDak39
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3/17/2002
08:36:12
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7500 less.... i don't think a ZR2 is $15000. cheapest one i ever saw was $18000 and used.
intense
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J.D
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2002
14:16:44
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NO lets do the math........My 2001 ZR2 Listed at 26100.00 , I purchased it at 22500.00, the mods were 5300.00, that equals 27800.00...
my 2002 R/T Dakota ext cab was stickered at:
36900.00 + tax tags, ect,bone stock....i had the mods done after i had about 29000 miles and the dakota had 4500miles... Road and track list the 4.3 Vee at 225 HP at the rear wheels, so does GM...Dodge list on my invoice/window sticker as:
5.9 liter High performance magnum V8 at 250hp, Road and track says it is 234 at the rear wheels with 3:73 gears....and 11/13 mpg highway...the 4.3 gets 17/19 high way the R/T weighs in at 873 pounds heavier than my FOUR WHEEL DRIVE S10.. in the real world I'm lucky to get TEN mpg in the R/T
driving conservatively and until last month it felt sluggish for all the DODGE hype....so in went a Powerdyne 8psi intercooled supercharger and NOW it FINALLY feels and drives like it COST and can eat most street stock rides including stock S10's and ANY stock or modified ford ranger or F series up except for the lightings which here in NC, run in the mid to high FORTIES for new supercharged versions...but with the mods to the S10 it has embarrassed all would be stop light racers, including several R/T's (my own super charged R/T) and my wife was driving the S10...but as for ANY stock dakota with no mods, I have never seen or heard of any strip write ups in any reputable mags for the validity of time cards in the quarter or eighth mile runs that were quicker or faster than the stock s10 4.3 times for the past three years, in fact C/D and R/T as well as hot truck, hot rod, chevy hipo mag and Mopar performance have stated that to get performance from the dakota in any configuration, including 5.9 r/t or "318"it requires CONSIDERABLE modification, available at you MOPAR performance dealers and goes on to list crank, cams intakes injectors, heads, plugs and wires with the part numbers and then it would onty run low tens and high nines when hooked up well....what i can't figure is why dodge screwedwith the 318 motor design..I own a stock 70 'cuda convertible with a 727 torqueflight and 3:73 gears that outweighs my dakota r/t by about 750 pounds and it is insanely,scary, wicked,"get- you-dead" in a hurry quick and fast...it is a show car but still embarrases with awesome consistentcy...even if it is the ugly lime green and white color sceme and it will still make past any gas station without trying to turn in like a bug to a night light.....
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jontoad
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2002
14:30:21
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um... you must have one hell of a dog of an r/t to be running 14's at 8psi.(i hope you used felpros with new bolts or youll be blowing gaskets left and right at that psi.) with 8psi you should run mid 12's. furthor more i have never had a naturaly asperated or supercharged s10 run with me when i was stock. you must be smokin some good stuff.
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2000 black dak R/T cc w/dual 11 inch silver stripes and chacers, lakewood traction bars, jet chip stage II (paper weight with ok shift points), jeds/bills old k$n, jeds/bills ported and polished TB, black outs, chrome 5.9 badges,hydraulic soft tonneau, white face gauges, mobil 1 through out, 2 bottles of mopar friction modifyer, and my favorite mod a sticker that says rice/terminator on my back window.
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J.d
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3/17/2002
14:43:34
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Now the R/t will run respectable low tens high nines...RCR did the head work and installed arp racing head bolts and it runs fine...it was A HELL of alot of money for the go fast to be where it should have before the mods to the r/t...this has never been an emotional thing for me...I just like speed, and the fact are for alot less money you can go alot faster with th 4.3...if any one could PROVE different like say a legit article from a mag or auto /truck show where a stock dakota run a stock s10, or stock R/T runs a stock syclone/typhoon and beats it...with equally qualified professional drivers I would be impressed, but I made the mistake of believing the hype instead of checking the facts.....so I spent 36 grand for a very pretty but disapointing perfomer
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jontoad
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2002
14:50:13
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how the hell did you spend 36 grand on an r/t. the most expensive one ive ever heard of was the original sticker price on mine (27k) and i payed 19 for it when it was less than a year old. fully loaded eccept overhead trip computer.
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Dr Q
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3/17/2002
15:56:14
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I think your propensity for hyperbole is comendable; "Road and track list the 4.3 Vee at 225 HP at the rear wheels, so does GM." That would be 190 at the crank.
R/t's don't come with 3.73 gears.
Stock rc 2wd 4.3 S-10's run low 16's, Although they do show considerable improvemrnt with mods. Conservatively, R/T's run low 15's.
...soo I think you better run along your Cap'n Crunch is getting soggy.
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Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92 pegleg
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1/4mi @ 14.75@97.1
Home Brew Airbox
K&N Drop In
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Dremel TB Port and Polish
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IntenseDak39
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3/17/2002
16:19:49
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37000!! where did you go find that price... EGYPT?
intense
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RTjohn
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3/17/2002
17:55:14
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NO offense but you are a complete idiot to spend 37,000 on an R/T. I would definitly buy a lightning over an R/T at that price!( I am Dodge fan don't get me wrong!) If you are in the midwest I would be more than happy to run your "Modded" S-10 I will eat it up and spit it out.
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RTjohn
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John D
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2002
22:05:20
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Hello Gentlemen,
I just returned home from a weekend outing and see my 13 year old son has been messing around on the web.......on my screen name......He doesn't own ANY vehicles and could tell the difference from a Dodge and a S10 if they ran him over......
as for performance differences between the two..I couldn't tell you either ...I own a tired old 2500 Diesel Cummins
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KenDawg
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3/18/2002
00:05:54
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36 grand for a R/T huh. Maybe you have more money then brains. No a s10 extreme or regular 4.3 will not outrun a stock 4.7 for all I know. I doubt it will out run a 5.9 either. Also if your complaining that your running 11's with a truck that's pretty damn fast pal. The lightening runs like mid 12's right?
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D Denney
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3/18/2002
08:26:47
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36000 dollars?????????? when i bought my Quadcab in 2000 i coulda bought a r/t for under 26 loaded. Dreamland i guess
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IntenseDak39
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3/18/2002
08:52:01
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i think you'll missed john d's confession... it was his kid playing a joke.
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J.d
Dodge Dakota
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3/19/2002
19:26:11
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Can you say grounded for life?
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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3/19/2002
19:56:51
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Weird... The son wouldn't know the difference between the trucks if they ran over him, and yet, he knows so much about mods!!!
I think somebody realized they made a big mistake (first by paying too much for the truck, second by talking without knowledge) and now is trying to save face...
Just my 3 cents...
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2001 QC 4x4 SLT+
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J.d
Dodge Dakota
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3/19/2002
20:02:35
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he does know how to copy and paste, and read message boards.....there is one apparently for S10's as well...and viper..he likes anything fast...and I personally have no interest in either one...I just put fuel in my Diesel, and go....it is the old body style but will go for ever...I have about 350,000 miles on the old girl and shes still chuggin
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ben calimer
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9/10/2002
22:45:36
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I have a 1993 s-10 blazer, 2wd, 4.3l vortec, and i guaruntee it will run circles around any of youre stock or slightly modified dakotas. it has a k&N airfilter and flowmaster exaust. i guaruntee it will blow away any 318, i have driven a fiew, there real dogs.
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BIG TYMER
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9/12/2002
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Ben is on crack rock. All you have is an air filter and a muffler? Put your money where your mouth is...
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xplikt
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9/12/2002
01:24:00
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Or put it towards an English class at your local community college.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
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Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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gearhead19
Dodge Dakota
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10/01/2002
22:48:45
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DODGES ARE SLOW AS COLD MALASAS. S-10 WITH A FOUR BANGER WILL BUST ANY DAKOTA SLEAD.
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gearhead19
Dodge Dakota
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10/01/2002
22:59:11
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you boy's ain't talking about a fair fight. Why don't you put one of those pissy 3.9 against the 4.3? You all need to get some real power under you and get you a V-8 S-10.Mine runs 8.38 in the quarter and is street legal(barely). But if you want to find out for your self come on down to NC and look at my tail lights there very pretty. And for you 1/8 mile guys I'm turning 5.14,But those Dakota's are pretty good, I ate one yesterday.
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NOSDART68
Dodge Dakota
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10/01/2002
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I hope you are joking about a 4 cylinder s10 beating a dakota. You may be able to hang with a 2.5 Dak, but not a 6 cylinder or 8.
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dragrdan
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10/01/2002
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gearhead, dont believe it. 99% of the vehicles turnin those times are runnin alky(not something you'd want to run on the street). i could be wrong, so if i am, prove it. post the info on www.dragtruk.com . you would be in the top 5, if its true.
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gearhead19
Dodge Dakota
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10/01/2002
23:35:50
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not alcohol just a little 93 octane and 3 gallons of JP5 jet fuel, trust me its expencive
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xplikt
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10/02/2002
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Damn, I think we need to setup some sort of ESL program for S10 owners -- morons.
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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dragrdan
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2002
00:32:42
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still dont believe it, post it and prove me wrong.
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dragrdan
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2002
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i am an avid drag racer, and EVERYTHING i see turnin those times only comes off the trailer at the racetrack. they are definitely not street legal(barely or otherwise).
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