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Greg
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4/24/2004
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Hi everyone, Steve never got back with me on this... I'm sure something came up, because he has been quite busy lately... But anyhow, I was just wondering if anyone has installed an Amsoil Dual Bypass system on their V6 Dakota??? Was it hard to install or anything... I noticed most Dodge owners install them right behind the bumper... Where did yall install your kits??? Is anyone even running this setup on their Dakotas??? I personally want this one for the more filtering passes through the extremely fine filtering filter and the fact that both filters are right there together... Was planning on running the 0w-30 oil with it too...
Thanks in advance for the replies...
Greg
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4/24/2004
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Greg,
I did respond to your earlier question ... I just don't remember which thread. I do not recommend Amsoil "Dual" By-pass for passenger vehicles ... just the Regular By-Pass. You asked about installation, pricing, etc. I have tried to find my post with the answers and I am still looking. I will be back.
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4/24/2004
21:56:14
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This is not the thread I mentioned but it gives a full description:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/7325.html
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4/24/2004
22:00:24
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Greg,
I found the thread ... Here it is ...
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/8777.html
Amsoil's SAE 5W-30 or 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oils are excellent oils and have shown to be almost the same quality as the Series 2000. IMHO ... Amsoil 10w-30 gives you the best bang for $$$, and it is the oil I use.
Amsoil Series 2000 0w-30 is the more shear stable of the two Amsoil formulations (Series 2000 vs. SAE). The Series 2000 also reduces friction (better gas mileage -- fuel savings of approx 2%-3% in comparison to the 10w-30 in short trip driving), protects from heat and wear better, better engine cleanliness than the 5w-30 and 10w-30 due to higher detergency, better cold weather performance --- in any high performance application, --- and will provide the lowest oil consumption in older vehicles that are experiencing oil consumption problems.
Special note: Amsoil Series 2000 0w-30 can be used to in place of 5w-20/5w-30/10w-30 oils. I'd even recommend it in engines that come with 0w-40 or 5w-40 grades.
My choice? I use the less pricey of the two. If you drive your truck "hard" --- you might be happier with the Series 2000.
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4/24/2004
22:03:17
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Greg, Another good link on this site:
Amsoil By-Pass Oil Filtration on a 4.7L Dodge
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16000.html
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4/24/2004
22:08:28
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Amsoil By-Pass Oil Filters Information & Price
Engine wear is caused by dirt particles larger than 5 microns. The AMSOIL By-Pass Oil Filter removes particles as small as 1/10 of a micron, virtually eliminating engine wear. AMSOIL By-Pass Oil Filters filter all the oil in a six-quart system in about five minutes at an average engine speed equivalent to 45 mph.
Product Code BMK-11 - By-Pass Filter Mounting Kit
Retail Price = $161
Preferred Customer Price = $120.50
(You can become an Amsoil Preferred Customer for $20 year)
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
The AMSOIL By-Pass Oil Filter provides the best possible filtration protection against wear, oil degradation, rust and corrosion. Working in conjunction with the engine’s full-flow oil filter, the AMSOIL By-Pass Filter operates by filtering oil on a "partial-flow" basis. It draws approximately ten percent of the oil at any one time and traps the extremely small, wear-causing contaminants and water that full-flow filters can’t remove. The AMSOIL By-Pass Filter typically filters all the oil in the system several times an hour, so the engine continuously receives analytically clean oil.
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Greg
Dodge Dakota
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4/24/2004
22:16:39
|  RE: Anyone ever try the Amsoil Dual Bypass
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BUT you still never said what the disadvantage to the full flow dual bypass system is... I know it is a lot easier to install and filters the oil through both filters all of the time so what exactly is the disadvantage??? IS it because oil flow is a little less or something... I just am not seeing why you wouldn't want to run it on the truck vs the other partial bypass system ://
What's the cost this bypass system vs the other partial one "$120 member cost"...
It's just I would much rather have this system vs the other... I don't mean to be agrevating or anything so I'm sorry if I may seem to be that way...
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Greg
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4/24/2004
22:25:27
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That 4.7l that you listed as the truck you've istalled the system on is the bypass system I was referring to... The one that uses both filters in the same location and everything... I just hope that's the full flow dual bypass system you were referring to as well or I will feel really stupid :))
Please get back with me as soon as you can on this...
Thanks Again,
Greg
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cooldak
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4/24/2004
23:00:32
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Steve
I agree with Greg. The answer is still missing here.
Steve, Do you know of an disadvantage in using the remote by-pass system? The few people I know using the system are very happy with their results.
I'm sure that if there was a problem, then Amsoil would not have testimonials and photos of almost every type of vehicle with the system on their web Site.
Please tell us your thoughts. I'm just curious.
Thanks Steve.
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4/25/2004
08:48:55
| Amsoil Dual By-Pass vs. Single By-Pass
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Thanks guys and I guess you are right.
First. Reasons to choose Amsoil By-Pass Installations:
1) Easy to set-up; 2)Amsoil uses spin on filters that are similar to regular spin-on Full Flow Filters - but the By-Pass Filters have more high desinsty media; 3) ease of changing filters.
Four Reasons That I Prefer the Single By-Pass.
1) I prefer the Single By-Pass because the Dual By-Pass has be shown to reduce oil pressure in some applications. The Dual By-Pass Units restrict main oil flow to get differential pressure for the bypass filter.
However, I DO HAVE many customers who run the Dual By-Pass on diesel engine pickup trucks with absolutely NO PROBLEMS. As long as the hoses are kept fairly short and you minimize viscous flow losses, there is very little drop in oil pressure vs. the stock filter setup.
Note: As long as you have an oil pressure guage and not an idiot light --- I have absolutely no problem recommending the Dual By-Pass.
2) The Single By-Pass takes up less space, and it is easier to find a spot to mount it since it is much smaller.
3) Single By-Pass is less expensive to "set up", and is less expensive to maintain.
4) Easier to remove and place on your next vehicle (size issue)
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IMHO - a standard Single By-Pass with "return oil to the top side of the engine", is the smartest set-up and takes up less space. Plus, easy to remove and place it on your next vehicle.
FYI --- Both Amsoil By-Pass Systems --- (BMK 11) Single By-Pass, and the (BMK 13) Dual Remote By-Pass --- come with hydraulic fitting, and 500 psi hydraulic hose that has abrasion resistant protection. Granted, you will never need the 500 psi, but it's nice to know that your setup will last a long time.
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Time to take my wife to breakfast ... I'll be back later.
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Greg
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4/25/2004
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OK if that's all I think I would still rather have the dual bypass system... Esspecially using the 0w-30 oil, I see no reason to worry about oil flow other than having the whole system dry durring both filter and oil changes... I have never experianced bad oil pressure the whole time I've had my truck and that was using the Mobil 1 0w-30, so I expect even better oil flow rates out of the Amsoil from what I've seen on the charts on the bestsynthetic.com websites... For me it would probably be better to have the dual bypass system for filter changes, that way I can relocate both filters to an easy access area :))
What is the member cost of the dual bypass kit and how much more oil "if any" does it require... I plan on ordering 1 more quart than required due to my 5000 mile regular filter change... And then changing both filters and oil every 10000 miles even though Amsoil says you can run the 0-30 for 35000 mile intervals... "I'm just one of those guys who likes to change the oil while it's still clean and use the best money can buy at the very same time"...
The kit does come with both filters and all lines and brackets doesn't it???
Speeking of member cost where do I sign up to become a member??? It will probably be toward the end of this week before I can get an order placed for the system... AND I can't do an order over the internet do to some kind of virus or some kind of junk in this blasted computer that no one can ever find... I can however give you all of the card info and everything by via email ; )) I also do not have paypal...
You can email me at emh@smnet.net for further discussion of this if you wish Steve to get everything setup as far as my membership and all...
Please get back with me as soon as you can on this...
Thanks Again,
Greg
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4/25/2004
19:49:21
| Amsoil Dual By-Pass vs. Single By-Pass = Amzoil
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Greg,
To Quote AOL ... You've Got Mail !!!
Respond to my Email with contact phone # and best time to call.
I will call you either Monday or Tuesday of this week.
Thanks !!!
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5/02/2004
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Greg,
I believe that my brother assisted you via. the telephone and your order was placed last week. Be sure to report back your thoughts on Amsoil, Service, and the Installation of your Amsoil Dual By-Pass Oil Filter System.
Thanks for the order! Let me know if we can help!
Steven
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Greg
Dodge Dakota
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5/02/2004
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Yes, your brother said it would be in this Monday... Was a bit on the pricy side, but I think it will be more than worth it... I ended up with the ---
Dual bypass system,
case of 0-30 amsoil
2 SDF 15's "I thinks"
1 of the giant filters
It wont be till, like 2 weeks till I can report on anything though, because that will be when I "hopefully" get it put on :))
Now all I need to decide on is how often to change the oil and where to bolt it down ; ))
Thanks Again for all the help and I'll be sure to post some of my thoughts on it later :))
Thanks Again,
Greg
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slopehead
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5/02/2004
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if you guys would just change your oil every 3000 you would never need to buy his overpriced products he is hyping. There are guys out there getting 300,00 miles on a car/truck and never had a oil related engine failure, and I'll bet that only about 1 percent of you ever keep your leased truck over 60,000 miles and even less then that keep it bought or not over 150,000 miles. The doggone chassis and the rest of the drive train ain't designed to last over 200,000.
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BigBadRoy
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5/02/2004
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Its all f'n hype as slopehead said. these motors will run 250k miles with sh!tty oil and poor maintanance. Chnage the oil and filter every 3k miles with name brand stuff and you will be fine. Looks like the uneducated crowd likes to waste money on snake oil and other related products.
Wanna buy some pills? They are only 500 bucks and will make your dong up to 19in longer!
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Don
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5/03/2004
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Okay guys . The big question. How well does the engine perform after 100,000 miles? Using the bypass filtration it will still hum and purr like new. You may not notice a difference in your Dak for the first 100,000 miles but you certainly will for the second and third 100,000 miles.
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walter99
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5/03/2004
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maybe 200-300k if you are lucky and get a good engine. but i have never had one with 200k that still ran worth a darn without bypass. bigbadboy. You said sh!tty oil and poor maintanance. Well that ain't how i take care of my stuff. i use amsoil in the engine and tranny. i have owned about 20 trucks in my life. on the ones that i work hard i use bypass. a couple got close to 500k or more on the engine but i went thru maybe 3 trannys on every one. lots of pulling trailers. but the engines still pulled like young stallions.
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5/03/2004
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Reasons for using the Amsoil Dual Remote By-Pass Oil Filter.
1) It allows the use of a LARGER full flow filter. -- which could be up to 3 times larger than the OEM. In total, this could equate to 3 quarts more oil capacity which offers greater protection for the engine.
2) The By-Pass filter is a spin on and is very easy to change without creating a mess.
3) The "setup" is a very clean installation.
4) The hoses for the "setup" are "industrial hydraulic hoses" with reusable connectors -- they don't leak -- and can be easily relocated to another vehicle if you sell your Dakota.
5) By-Pass Filtration Continuously Cleans The Oil.
6) Save $$$ with EXTENDED DRAINS - the "system" will pay for itself and save $$$ in the long run.
7) A regular Full Flow Filter will filter at 10 micron, and then NOT let the bypass valve open at some point -- releasing some of the dirt back into the oil galley. By-Pass filters -- once the dirt is in the filter it stays in the filter until you change it.
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I believe that the reason why By-Pass filtration is not a standard for vehicle manufacturers is because of the potential for profit loss. If vehicles last too long, auto manufacturers can't expect you to return and buy a new vehicle.
For the consumer, By-Pass filtration is one way to keep repair costs down AND allow the engine to last much longer (and perform close to "brand new"). IMHO -- Vehicle manufacturers are merely concerned with the vehicle lasting until it is out of warranty.
Think of this also. If every vehicle came factory installed By-Pass oil filtration, what would the oil companies do? Motor oil demand would drop by 75% ... and they certainly would see a drop in profits. That is why you see the "quickie lubes" (some owned by major oil companies) pushing the current 3,000 mile recommended oil change interval -- it puts lots of $$$ in their pockets.
For someone who hopes to never rebuild an engine, the By-Pass filtration is an excellent choice.
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Greg
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5/03/2004
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I think slopehead and bigbadroy probably both have never given a flip about any engine they've ever owned from the sound of things... More than likely stock as well...
Well see I've got a little over $5000 in just the engine on my truck along with more in the rest of it... I would like to get the most out of the money I've put into it as possible :))
AND like I've told so many before, I'll drive it till the wheels fall off then glue the wheels back on and drive er' some more ; ))
Well Steve it never came in today, so hopefully it'll be in tomorrow, but only I won't be here to look everything over until late that night... That just plain sucks :(( Oh well, untill then I guess...
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5/03/2004
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hi greg,steven and all amsoil users. greg i have a 2000 q-cab with the v-6,4-speed auto,2-wheel drive.i bought the truck new.at about 20,00 miles i too installed the dual remote by-pass system.i now have 77,700 miles on my truck(i use the 0w-30 amsoil) i'am very happy with the results and increased gas milage i'am getting. i also changed the tranny, power steering and rear end fluid over to amsoil.when i installed my system i mounted it to the frame(outside) right under the front passenger door. this was the best location for my truck. i use a sdf-15 main and a be-90 by-pass filter. have not had a problem with anything hitting the filters. for years i used only castrol 10w-30 dino oil and cganged the filters and oil every 3,000 miles but no more i want to save myself and my country from being oil (slave) to another country. i remember the last two gas shortages this country went thru.i'am 54 years old i remember 15 cent a gallon gas and gas stations having gas wars. oops sorry got a little carried away. but i love this site it has saved me money on repairing my q-cab. but the biggest thing is everyone has their own idea what works for them, but i can only tell you what works for me. good luck on your installation. thanks steven,benard and all the others who have put out good info out on this web site.
don ( gunboat
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