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icemanKY
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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ok heres my continuing problem with a misfiring 3.9 replaced plugs wires cap and rotor button again and still missing soo i checked the timing by aligning #1 cylinder at tdc and the rotor isn't qiet centerd on #1 plug on distr. cap but also noticed it's not aligned at all with the camshaft positioning sensor alignment mark under the distr. cap.. anyone else had this problem?? or should the sensor alignment mark even be inline with the #1 plug??
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Jon
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8/22/2002
19:02:37
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I'm not sure how that stuff should line up at tdc, infact your engine is probably set up to fire at around 10 degrees btdc. So the rotor won't line up with #1 right at tdc. Can't you just put a timing light on it??
-Jon
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icemanKY
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8/22/2002
20:31:41
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i have a manual on the dakota and in 1 section it says that the camshaft position sensor alignment mark has to be lined with rotor on tdc and then in another section on the timing it says that on tdc rotor needs to be inline with #1.... i'm not sure either well taking it to a dealer that i know and trust tom to have the whole engine checked .. i'll post the problem/fix when i find out just incase someone runs into this problem
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LIL STOMPER
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8/23/2002
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ICEMANKY I HAVE A 95 DAKOTA 3.9 THAT I HAD TO PUT A LONG BLOCK IN.I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND TIMING SPECS FOR IT. I D0N'T THINK ITS RIGHT BUT IT GETS ME BACK & FORTH FOR NOW. IF YOU FIND OUT POST IT PLEASE.
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icemanKY
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8/23/2002
17:30:47
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ok i worked till 3 a.m. this morning on the timing and found that it can't be set with the distributor (on a 2000 model anyways) has to be done at the dealership on their computer but i did manage to get the camshaft sensor under the cap in time i took the truck to the dealer and had it put on the diagnostics test $45 and found that 1 tank of gas ruined 1 injector on #6 cylinder replaced it $75 also had a brand new autolite 3923 plug with less than 100 miles on it bad around the top.. in all with the labor it costed me $180 for 1 bad tank of gas and still have to replace the other 5 injectors.. any ideas on where to get injectors cheaper than the dealer??? checked autozone and advance but they say they can't get them ;(
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Pistolero
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8/23/2002
20:35:40
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For injectors, try Bruce Holt at fiveomotorsports.com
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street guy
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8/23/2002
22:24:11
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JEG'S - www.jegs.com
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icemanKY
Dodge Dakota
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8/24/2002
16:42:48
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ok thanks for the help finding injectors...
$198 for all 6 from fiveomotorsports is alot better than the dealer's $75 each lol i think buying a new truck would be cheaper than buying all the parts from the dealer
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DakotaDan
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8/24/2002
17:16:56
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ICEMAN
make sure you get the right ones, if you have a 2000 Dak check to see if your injectors are "RED" if they are these are 21# injectors not 19# you will down size if your get the wrong FMS ones
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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icemanKY
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8/24/2002
17:30:01
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ok dan thanks for the advice i already knew wich 1's to get .. just from keeping up with this board :) you know of a good way to put them in besides putting them all in at once?? after cleaning my old ones last night i tore 2 seals trying to put them in by myself.. really hard to align the all and push all at once on the rail
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DakotaDan
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8/24/2002
17:42:04
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Sorry IceMan I only have 13,000 miles on my truck hopefully it will be awhile before I have to pull them.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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icemanKY
Dodge Dakota
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8/24/2002
17:59:05
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k thanks anyways.. i wish you better luck out of them than what i got.. they are a pain in the @ss to work on.. theres something funny about having 2 injectors sucking air around them (the seals are there but not completely tight) now though... i mean i worked on it late last night and no stores open to get new seals for them soo i just put them in just to make it to town to get the seals and with them leaking air it's hard to keep the truck at a conastant speed -->>> seems to be sucking alot of air around them from the intake and making better power
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DSFGFG
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2002
01:14:46
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TAKE THAT JUNK JAP SH*T OFF AND PUT AN ALL AMERICAN CARB ON IT . , , ,
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Todd W
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8/26/2002
02:12:38
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What a moron... :0)
Just what, pray tell, makes a Carburator more 'American' than a fuel injector?
"I think I hit my excitement threshold about ten minutes ago..."
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Pistolero
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2002
14:50:23
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Maybe he has Tourette's syndrome...
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icemanKY
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2002
20:40:04
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all american carb?? i want it to run good not something else to have to work on all the time like these people that drive chevies with piece of @%!^ carbs on them you don't like jap sh!t soo much DSFGFG who do you think makes that machine that you are using on the net?? lol
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Todd W
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8/26/2002
21:29:06
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Uh... Chevies have Fuel Injectors too, Iceman.
Chill.
Hehe, I made a funny. :0P
"I think I hit my excitement threshold about ten minutes ago..."
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icemanKY
Dodge Dakota
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8/27/2002
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lol well i knew that but was refering to the older chevy v 8's that people (around here anyways) try to compare to the dodge trucks..
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Todd W
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8/27/2002
00:29:20
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Oh :)
Yeah, those rule. I miss my old 305 (although wish it had been a 350. I love 350s).
"I think I hit my excitement threshold about ten minutes ago..."
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92Dak
Dodge Dakota
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8/27/2002
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I have never seen a carbuerated car run near as good as any fuel injected car. I use to be all into the all-american muscle cars with carbs, but thats a thing of the past.
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pogi
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11/21/2003
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I have 2000 Dakota QC 3.9 L and the problem is when I check the timing with the timing light in the #1 spark plug I cannot see the line that should align at the TDC mark. But when I check at the #4 spark plug the line show up. Is this a big problem? And also when I start the engine in the first try,it doesn't start but it always start on the second try. Can you help me on this problem.
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