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vettegc
Dodge Dakota
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10/20/2003
11:57:55
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They are still not answering my emails. Would anyone else mind forwarding this thread again or just telling them I want my money back. This is ridiculous!!!
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Sorry for you
Dodge Dakota
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10/20/2003
16:01:28
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Oh come on. Didn't you read Jonas's Post:
Paul sent you an email last night, and Ill send
you another one right now. I dont understand
how exactly I dont get a response from F&B
either. Bruce has always been great on getting
back to me.
Ill send you another email right now since we
havent heard from you yet.
Rest assured at any time I can simply offer
your a full refund at your request, and we are
trying to contact F&B to see what the problem
is.
If you beleive this, I have a bridge to sell you.
Sorry VetteGC
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Durango
Dodge Dakota
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10/21/2003
23:18:43
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Vettegc,
You must not have read this entire discussion. Your money has been stolen and I would recommend legal assertion. Maybe it wont be worth it fopr you, but someone needs to bring whats coming to this dick.
Jonas,
Could you teach me how to setup a commerce website and sell products I don't have and trick people into thinking that I am still working on getting them their equipment? You must be rich as hell.
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
00:10:37
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Hey Durango, Hey Sorry For You. Its funny how worthless, immature, and pathetic you are. Why dont you post your name, address, phone, email address, etc. Why is it you HIDE behind anamous forum names, switching them constantly, but always just being a "ghost". Why dont YOU muscle up, tell me who you are and Ill come see you???
Ive never ripped anyone off.. PERIOD! Any business has issues, for some reason people like to post them here.. however, there HAS NOT been an issue that I have been presented with YET that I havent delt with.
Garon, you emailed us the information that we needed to process the refund at: 10/20/2003 7:27:05 PM> I entered it within minutes and it cleared within 24 hours. check your credit card Your money has been refunded. You should have also received a conformation email on it when it cleared.
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
00:13:23
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FastD: I have ALL KINDS of stuff for the Rams, just let me know what you want!
Joey: Due to lack of sales and issues with the manufactuer we no longer make the lightweight bumper. You may be able to order it through www.gsmotorsports.com though.
So "Durango" when are you going to stop acting like a little girl and give me your phone number or address so I can come meet you?
Jonas
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JES
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
09:35:57
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Note to self -- drive to Summit Racing so I down have to deal with all the little 'idiosyncrasies' associated with web commerce.
Eric -- http://photos.yahoo.com/jes_96
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rtdkota
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10/22/2003
12:31:50
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Can't we all get along?
www.socaldakota.com
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Durango
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
20:34:04
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Jonas,
I'm not a little girl. I'm a little guy that will bust you the f*ck up if you step out of line. I do not post under multiple names. A few months ago I used 98Durango360 and now I just go by Durango, but look around, I post daily on several discussions. I do not hide behind a false name. I do no business with you, and from what I know now thanks to some of these folks, never will, therefore you have no need for my name, phone number, or anything other than the name I go by on this forum.
It really pisses you off that I point out the flaws in your lies etc. in a public forum, eh? Well don't treat people like that. I've been ripped off in business deals too, but I don't rip people off. 50 phone calls and no return? 70 somthing emails, no response? There are countless other things like this I have heard just on this discussion alone about you. So don't talk to me about every business has its issues. Those are not issues, those are incidents in which you didn't want to issue a refund and you weren't able to get ahold of the part ordered so you cut communication with that person. Issues my a$$.
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CZ
Dodge Dakota
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10/22/2003
22:13:01
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I have never even heard of Elite Customs before this thread, but I have to say that, Jonas, you are coming across as a complete @ss! Your excuses sound full of $hit, and now you are resorting to name-calling. Nobody needs to slander you, you are making yourself look bad enough all on your own.
And as far as getting names and phone numbers of those that criticize you (in order to "call and personally apologize"), geez... you just want to give them to your lawyer. Why don't you save your phone calls and use them to contact your customers?
Let me save you the trouble of asking for mine... this is the first time I have posted on this thread, and I have nothing to gain from bashing you. Go ahead and check my IP if you want. I don't know you, no, but I know people just like you. I took one to court not too long ago, and he was full of excuses and BS just like you. I know $hit when I smell it, and you are full of it.
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
00:40:47
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Again..
GHOSTS... no names, no address, no phone, etc..
I referenced your IP's DURANGO.. in fact you post and SLANDER me from about 7 different names. No doubt that you are also probally CZ. IP's are easy to change CZ.. we both know this.
Unless you want to verify your identity we can all just keep believing that you are nothing but the same moron who evidently has something to gain from trying to hurt my rep. or you simply hate life and have nothing better to do.
Jonas
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CZ
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
01:50:55
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Why would I give you my name, address, or phone? Why would you even want it? I am not Durango, I just happen to agree with him. Now you're accusing me of changing my IP number in order to post as someone else? Either you are paranoid or you are trying to use anything you can think of to discredit anyone that sees through your BS.
Look back at your posts... your excuses are weak and don't hold up, you blame and insult others, and you accuse me of being someone else. I didn't see you apologize to a SINGLE ONE of your customers on this thread. Like I said, you are doing a good enough job of destroying your own reputation.
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NateDawg
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
02:29:28
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Jonus
I will say this I am not Durango but I am his friend. I enjoy reading forums because you can get valuable information from very smart, honest people. When i read all the posts and see your continual assurnace of your products, and then I see someone say that you continually ignore there calls and e-mails, it disgusts me. A real American would have some balls and return the money or appologize get the person the product and make it worth there while. You on the other hand are some pu$$y azz that doesnt use his head and squanders your money on drugs and prostitutes. You probably have a gambling promblem and need to steal peoples money. Unfortunately vettegc if you have ordered from him out of state it will be very hard for you to get anything done. You will have to travel to his state by law to do anything to him. Your state cannot handle this suit. So your options are minimal, because we all cant just leave work and travel across the country to deal with scum. Im sure Jonas, however, can do this anytime since he has so much excess money from ripping people off. Jonas get real, what goes around comes around.
And also check the IP this one is the same, im on Durangos comp. That doesnt matter though because you would claim it was the same ip even if i was on my own comp. And when you can show me some laws people have been breaking that you think your lawyer can deal with contact me i would like to use your lawyer since he holds some sort of special power in the United States.
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Durango
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
03:14:39
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FoShizzle
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Durango
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
10:22:35
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Hey CZ, How ya been? I havent seen you on the boards in a while. How is that GSD of yours?
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
10:23:26
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Durango, I think you indeed may have shortmans disease or the like. If your not a customer of mine, dont plan on being, dont know any of the people who have issues, and dont know the story, then why do you CARE! Why do you think that YOU are the "peoples" attorney. What you evidently dont understand, and Ill present it again.. IVE NEVER RIPPED OFF ANYONE! I dont go to YOUR work and tell then tell everyone every single time you have a problem. I can count the number of ISSUES that Ive ever had in this business on one hand. Ill even be happy to admit them to you AND tell you how they were SOLVED! SOLVED, DONE, FINISHED, TAKEN CARE OF! There are mail order and internet issues all the time, however, because most of those companies are not active on boards like this people dont post about it. I
n this specific case, he ordered a TB, I placed the order for the TB, the TB evidently didnt get shipped, and for some reason F&B is either very slow or not existant in their respones. Then the customer posts this, and BECAUSE of people like YOU he then freaks out when you tell him to go get a lawyer, sue me, chargeback, or even better come try to physically harm me.
If you are real, then I apoligize for saying you are not, BUT.. If your not involved then you probally dont realize that "Chris", "Billy", "Jeff", "Ripped Off" and a few other names have as of now ALL been IP identified as being the EXACT SAME IP. All of which are doing nothing but promoting some fear that Im ripping people off and that im going out of business etc.. So belive me, because you dont post a name, address, city, state, zip, email, truck description, etc.. I think I have every right to assume or possibly suggest that you may be involved as well since you are posting the same type of stuff.
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
10:32:58
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Ill tell you what.
Durango, CZ, NateDawg, Billy, Jeff, etc, etc, etc.
Im done getting mad and talking to unknown people, ghosts, or the like. I have never ripped anyone off, and will never rip anyone off. The address to my shop is listed everywhere. My numbers, emails, and website are also easy to find.
When anyone of you want to reveal that you are a real person, and not just some 13 year old punk kid, or a conspiring competitor, just let me know. Ive been on this board since it started, and Im a 3 time dakota owner. Ive purshased, installed, tested, and seen just about every product on the market for the dakota. If you have a problem, question, etc.. you can even feel free to ask me. If your doing an install and know you may need help I often give out my cell phone to people and even provide help on parts I didnt sell. When you can FIND anyone who I have RIPPED OFF, you just post their NAME, ADDRESS, ORDER NUMBER, ORDER DATE, and PRODUCT.
***ILL MAKE THIS A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT***
If I have ripped you off, or you THINK that I have ripped you off, PLEASE Email, Call, FAX, Mail, Come by the shop, OR send a singing telegram. Im here, Im not going anywhere, and Im not stealing anything.
Take what you read on forums to be just that, stuff on anamous forums.
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CThomp
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10/23/2003
10:44:03
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Well...on a lighter note. Hey Jonas, do you still have those cams planned for the 4.7L? Just wondering. I remember they were on the old premiere-auto website. Also what about the pcm programming you were possibly planning before? I also noticed the long tube header/exhaust combo for the Hemi's. Any idea if that may someday be available for the 4.7L?
I've only ever heard good things about ya Jonas. Thanks for putting in the time to make our Daks better!!
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Matt
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
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this has nothing to do with me Jonas and i am NOT taking a side in this, but i just want to apoligize for what i've said. only name i've used is "Matt". hopfully u and i can get along and forget the whole incident in the past.......
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
15:15:51
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Cthomp, I have custom ground cams, custom heads, and custom flashs available for the 4.7 right now. I WILL TELL YOU UP FRONT, they are MADE TO ORDER, and may require up to a few weeks to get them done, depending on the specific ccomponent.
We tested the JBA, Gibson, Borla, and even fabbed some long tubes for the 4.7, the best gain we saw was 3Hp with the JBA's and then 6 hp with the long tubes. With that type of gain it isnt worth it to make long tubes for the 4.7 at this point. If the demand was there, then maybe.. but for 6hp Id save my money.
Matt, as I said, I apoligize to you for the inconvinece. It was truely an ordeal, Infact because of it we have upgraded our systems to take products off the website temporarly when they are on back order and shorty you should be able to see when ordering exactly what is in stock and what isnt. sorry once again for the issue.
Jonas
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Not a nerd
Dodge Dakota
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10/23/2003
15:33:57
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I'm a little confused as to how Jonas could identify these people as being the same by the IP adress - when I tried to check IP adress I found an administrator's name and password were required. Is there a way around that ?
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