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Gary Underhil
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9/19/2003
23:40:00

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I own a 2002 Dodge Dakota with only 20,000 road miles, all city driving. Recently my wife was involved in an accident on 9-5-03 in Reno, Nv. It was during normal traffic conditions. She was driving at approximatley 30-35 mph and began to slow for traffic stopped at a red light in front of her. She applied the brake which went to the floor. She came off the brake, reapplied, and got the same response. The ABS did not activate, and the truck would not slow. She was unable to get to the emergency brake, before the truck slammed into the Saturn stopped in front of her at the light. There was NO airbag deployment. Thankfully, neither my wife who was 12 weeks pregnant, or my two year old daughter were injured. I responded to the scene and confirmed myself that the brakes would not stop the truck. It was now parked on a hill facing downwards. When I took the emergency brake off and applied the brake while in neutral, the truck would not stop. So far, I have been getting the run-around from Daimler Chrysler. On 9-8-03, I was told that they were sending an investigator out to inspect my truck. Each day since, I have been told that "he'll be here tomorrow". So far, no one has arrived or looked at my vehicle. Has anyone heard of, or does anyone have information on brake failure such as this on Dodge Dakota pickups? I would be very appreciative of any information.
Thank you,
Gary



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9/20/2003
14:38:25

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Gary, glad to hear everyone is ok. In all my time on this board, I have never heard of such a thing. Keep us posted on the outcome.



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9/22/2003
08:33:55

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my brakes failed on me, but I was lucky enough not to crash. I found the problem to be the aftermarket exhaust on my truck was routed to close to the rubber brake hose. It was fine for about 6 months, and then I was pulling a trailer and with the extra weight, the pipe was touching the brake hose, and burned a hole in it. I hit the brake and it went to the floor. Not sure if you have the stock exhaust on your truck or not, but you might take a look at it around the axle and see if it's close to the rubber hose. I talked to the guy's at the muffler shop, and they paid for the cost of replacing the hose, and the labor. Hope this helps.

Tony



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9/22/2003
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my brakes failed on me, but I was lucky enough not to crash. I found the problem to be the aftermarket exhaust on my truck was routed to close to the rubber brake hose. It was fine for about 6 months, and then I was pulling a trailer and with the extra weight, the pipe was touching the brake hose, and burned a hole in it. I hit the brake and it went to the floor. Not sure if you have the stock exhaust on your truck or not, but you might take a look at it around the axle and see if it's close to the rubber hose. I talked to the guy's at the muffler shop, and they paid for the cost of replacing the hose, and the labor. Hope this helps.

Tony



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9/22/2003
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What I don't get is the front/rear brakes are independent of each other. You still should have some braking with a rear hose broke. Am I wrong?



02CC4.7
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9/23/2003
07:33:43

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Scojo, I had very little braking power when the hose busted. It's all tied into the same place and when the hose busted, the brake fluid was just spraying out the hole, and the pedal went to the floor. The front brakes were working but due to lack of pressure, they would only work for about 1 or 2 seconds, then the pressure was gone. If I kept pumping the pedal, I could get it to stop, but I didn't want to do that cause I would have pumped all my fluid out. I was able to slow down by going through the gears, and the using the e-brake to stop.



ScojoDak
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9/23/2003
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02CC4.7, glad to hear you're ok too.



Turbofreak
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9/23/2003
12:57:49

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keep pushing Chrysler!!!

This exact thing happened twice to my cousin in her 2001 Durango with 4 wheel ABS....

She had two seperate accidents, both because of brake failure...

She had to get a lawyer ahold of the dealership to get them to replace some parts and admit the problem... they finally did... then it went out again...

It is probably connected to the ABS system and the hydraulic re-routing of fluid pressure in the block... thus causing the pedal to hit the floor.... no brakes

Stay on top of them and don't give up... She ended up getting back what she gave for the Durango from the dealership and went and got a new CHevy truck..

GOOD LUCK!!!
Ryan




Gary Underhil
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9/23/2003
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Dear Turbofreak...
Would you please e-mail me at lawdog5311@earthlink.net? I am VERY interested in speaking to you further about your cousin's experiences.
Thanks,
Gary



Mark98ag
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9/23/2003
22:12:41

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My brakes sometimes go out when I hit them hard around 20 to 40 mph. They just clatter and the truck brakes very slowly. Is this the same problem or does anyone know what is causing it?



Jody
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4/20/2010
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I have a 2002 dodge durango. I was in an accident because I went to turn a sharp corner and my ABS and brake light came on/ then the pedal went to the floor and made a horrible noise. I was unable to stop. I have had the brakes looked at and they are fine mechanically. The dodge dealership wants 2000 dollars for exploratory "surgery", and Auto zone is unable to read any codes to detect fault. I had the ABS fuse pulled and am still driving the death trap. Can anyone help me with this. I have 3 children and need this issue fixed. The ABS and Brake light only comes on ( with the ABS fuse in) when I turn really sharp????



Bob Lincoln
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4/21/2010
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I don't know what's wrong with your truck, but PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE A VEHICLE WITH DEFECTIVE BRAKES. Either have them fixed, or sideline the vehicle until you can. it's not worth my life or yours.



jody philip
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4/21/2010
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I am not driving this vehicle anymore, but I am trying to figure out transportation because I work full time. I paid alot of money for this vehicle...how can something so vital just STOP working? I dont know what to do with this vehicle? I cant sell it like it is, I cant drive it.....AWWWW frustrated. If anyone can give me suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.



The Todd
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4/23/2010
16:09:37

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What have you tried?

Tried bleeding the brakes?

Checked fluid levels?



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7/02/2010
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I have a 2006 dakota quad cab 4X4 V8 and for the past 2 1/2 weeks we've experienced brake failure. I have to press on the break pedal with extreme pressure to just slow it down. I've had it serviced 3 times and the only thing found was a leak in the vacuum. They said they fixed it but it happened again. The breaks have been checked 2 more times and I've been told they can't find anything wrong with it and that intermitent problems are hard to diagnose. Took it to Pep Boys and they also found nothing. Need to get a third opionion.



Jody
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7/06/2010
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I have had my Dodge Durango looked at by the dodge dealer, auto zone, mechanics and my brake failure and electrical problems seem to be a mystery. What do you do with a vehicle that noone is able to fix? I am still driving this darn thing....Would there be a malfunction with the brakes/recall that I dont know about? Who do I talk to about this? I dont have the money to buy another car, and I cant morally sell this death trap to anyone.



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1/31/2011
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I also have soft pedal to floor when applied. replaced master cylinder and bled twice, no leaks or air in lines. 2000 Dakota sport 4x4 rear abs.abs comes on some times when driving but not safe , shop has no clue. no codes being thrown. Totally stumped and I'm a pretty good wrench. removed vacuum from booster and pedal got hard, which it should, lost, help



Bob Lincoln
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2/01/2011
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Did you bleed the master cylinder before installing it? That's the first step. Then did you bleed the rear ABS valve before the 4 wheels? That's the factory procedure. Then bleed in order, the RR, LR, RF, LF wheels. I'll bet you still have trapped air.



Harry
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11/21/2011
10:57:39

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Hi Gary,
Lawdog,
Hopefully I am not bugging you but
I read your posts from 2003 concerning your Dodge Brake problems.
Hopefully you have the problem fixed now and can advise.
I recently purchased a Dodge 2000 extended cab from a "friend" (as is)
and my brakes failed as I was backing up and I hit a wall and busted the rear bumper.
The Brake Light and the ABS light is on, a couple of times I was able to drive it a few feet
and the light went off and everything worked for a few feet but now The Truck is not driveable, too dangerous.
I checked all the normal steps and procedures (Brake Fluid,etc) which is OK.
I read some of the other posts and this appears to be a common problem with Dodge trucks,
Wish I had read them before purchasing it.
Can you offer any advice?
Kind regards,
Harry



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9/09/2014
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I have a 2001 Dakota and had this same sort of thing occur. I am
unable to find a problem with the system. I replaced the master
cylinder, bled the MC, the ABS valve, then the four wheels,and the
brakes worked perfect... for a week. Now the same problem is
back. I have brakes when initially applied but a rapidly fading pedal
to near the floor where I can stop the truck, but nothing like it
should be. I continue to use the truck as I simply use it about the
farm, but would like to resolve the issue. with 250,000 miles, it will
never again see the inside of a mechanics garage.



Terryl
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6/30/2018
22:24:04

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I bought a 1998 Dakota Sport, ext. cab, long bed,
4x4 used. He had brake problems, thought it was
just
pads. got it home,tore passenger front down only
to
find the rotor to be all but gone, pads to be only
thin steel plates,drivers side OK. Put new rotor,
pads and caliper slide bolts were stripped, no one
had new caliper, so went to junk yard. threads in
the stearing knuckle were the culprit. My Son and
I spent a whole weekend hitting every salvage
yards in and around St,Louis.
We found 3, and all were stripped
(knuckle), and 11 complete. with no knuckle on
passenger front! something Stinks. Parts houses
show knuckles for driver front, but not for
passenger front.(discontinued part)???? where am I
supposed to get one?????

Does anyone know of a recall or fix???



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