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buddy jones
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9/28/2002
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has anybody ever raced a lightning on the street.
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big_torque
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9/28/2002
12:44:00
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I think MikeD has. He has the set-up to administer punishment. :-)
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kota318
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9/28/2002
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i raced a lightning the other nite and kicked his ass.... then after i race, i found out he was just a poser.. i beat him pretty bad 3 times. haha
and the sad thing is he had his girlfriend with him. that really made my nite
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big_torque
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9/28/2002
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kota318 .... dude , thats awesome ! awesome his girlfriend was with him when you beat him. I raced a T/A and lost (not by much) and the guy was with his girlfriend. We stopped and the next light and I looked over and nodded like - good race , man. All they did was eye me and my R/T up and down and kind of snicker as if was an idiot. I bet she thought he was so cool at my expense.
So , good job man. It sucks to lose a street race.
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kota318
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9/29/2002
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big torque, i know what you mean about losing on the streets.i have won most of my races, which i am proud of since i am pretty much stock. ya, i was comin home from work and i pulled next to a honda si(pos) with a manual trans,rice exhaust. so i get next to him and i put my auto tranny into 1st in case he wants to go at it. well anyway, he goes for it . we were going pretty go neck-n-neck then i slowly but surely pull on him.. haha. he got next to me after i backed off and just glared at me. it was toooo funny
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Big59er
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9/29/2002
03:57:41
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The night I got back from Topeka after the 01 R/T club meet, I pulled back into indianapolis about 1 oclock in the morning and this riced out maxima with a huge ass wing (as if there is any other kind) pulled up and started blowing his sh-t pipe, as they're normally known to do prior to losing a race :P.
So he pulls up, revs the engine, and I figure well im hungry anyway so ill race him down to dunkin donuts. (gives me a real reason to pick up the pace a bit) So light turns green, I could barely here his rotten ass pipes over the sound of my tires, and take off about I'd say alittle over an 8th of a mile up to dunkins. Anyway I let off all the way roll the window down and wave as I turn on my right turn signal (a good distance in front of him) and he of course does the infamous ricer pass right before I could turn into dunkins.
I dont think he liked me smiling at his girl friend at the light :).
Keep in mind the irony behind all of this is that on my way out to Topeka, while I was in the caravan, a guy rear ended me. So, I was driving a truck with a smashed rear end, I had just driven over 600 miles, I dont think there was an inch of exposed paint left on my vehicle from all of the bug juice, and on top of that all I was running at the time was the PCM.
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xplikt
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9/29/2002
04:28:47
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How disappointing to see a decent around-town car like the Maxima be sh!t on by a ricer.
Speaking of horrible exhausts. Hondas sound like an crippled bumble bee. However, have you ever heard some of the Subarus with the Boxter engine and a nice aftermarket muffler? I am not joking when I say it's actually pretty damn cool. I was always expecting a ricey sound from them, but instead it's a pretty deep grunt. From someone with a V8 turndown, I give the Soobies the thumbs up! Honda should take a hint, V-TEC is mostly label.
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big_torque
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9/29/2002
10:42:04
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"Crippled bumble bee" LOL
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Big59er
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9/29/2002
12:19:54
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Yeah, the SLK 230/320 exsausts dont sound too shabby either. Esspecially the SLK AMG model :P.......
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Drew
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9/29/2002
13:09:03
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Man, i saw my first Ford Lightening last night in the big city near my town at Best Buy, and i must say, it looks pretty nice...but i will never go to the dark side, hehe. Dodge rulez!
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Big59er
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9/29/2002
17:54:58
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I still think a decked out R/T, or any Dakota for that matter looks better than a Lightening. Of course under the hood is a different story, but simple enough to make the dakota look very good under the hood as well :P
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FlameRed01
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9/29/2002
20:14:23
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hey Big59er i know a guy who drives a 2002 mercedes slk 320 (which i have riden in) with the amg package and its very fast. i dont think many dakotas would touch it. it can easily burn 3 gears leaving an enormous cloud of smoke behind it, its bright yellow and has a supercharged inline 6 cylinder. 0-100 in 5 seconds. exaust? lol, i dont think it needs anymore power than it already has. and i think it cost around $80,000.
heres a couple pages on it... http://www.autospeed.com/A_1102/P_1/feature.html
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big_torque
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9/29/2002
22:42:28
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zero to 100 in 5 sec. ?????
km/hr or mi/hr
mph would pretty impressive
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Bernd
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9/30/2002
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Just remember, $800 and a Lightning is in the mid 12's. It takes MUCH more $$$ than that to put a 5.2 or 5.9L into those times.
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FlameRed01
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9/30/2002
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350 hp in this car!
that thing doesnt weight much. and its not your regular old slk 230 kompressor that all the rich guys drive around
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buddy jones
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9/30/2002
16:23:17
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if i had the price difference between the dak and the lightning, id be runnin 9s.
understand my point?
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Big59er
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9/30/2002
16:26:57
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I know, Flame the AMG-SLK320 supposidly has around 400 horse so I would hope it could haul some ass. Iv seen em in action(pacing) at the Porche pirelli cup race well 2 years now at the USGP. Those things sound like a hefty V8 when they take off.
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Big59er
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9/30/2002
16:28:43
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Bernd but you have to look at it from both angles...
Could 7000 dollars put an R/T into the mid 12's?
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Big59er
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9/30/2002
16:32:04
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Also anytime you see 0-100, unless its one of those extremely rare types of vehicles like a lingenfelter vette or a venom, or something assume it means kilometers. 0-100 km = 0-60 mph (im sure all of you know that though. :P
The AMG SLK320 runs it 0-60 in 4.9 seconds from what iv heard...
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BlkDak
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9/30/2002
16:46:47
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ya, maybe it costs more than $800 to get 12's but then again you already dropped a ridiculous amount on f-150 Redneck looking Ugly truck.
So if you ask me... I'd rather have the Best looking truck out there (dak ofcourse) and have paid WAY less for it... maybe knowing that.. won't make it so painful to put some money under the hoold of your wicked looking truck that carries the DODGE emblem.
annnnnnd I thank you.
Blkdak...
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Big59er
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9/30/2002
16:52:39
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Remember, though, R/T CC 25,000 thousand, that gives ya 7000 dollars to out do a lightening...
My question is if you get down to specific dollar ammounts between the lightening and the R/T wouldnt it even it self out??
Lightening = 32000+800 = mid 12's
5.9 R/T = 25000+7000 = ???
That puts it more into prespective...
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MikeD
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9/30/2002
17:06:49
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I went for my 3rd Lightning kill last Sat. some mexican dude talkin sh!t so I asked to race, then his buddy said he heard mine pull up and they said start it up so I did and they were thinkin about it at first cuz when they heard the cam, I could tell they were scared. Then they finally OKed it and we left the burger place to find a spot.
I was too anxious that night & blew it by roasting the tires all the way through 1st...but by the time they hooked up I was at his bumper but I stayed there the whole time till we let up at 110. 2nd time I was a little less anxious and my bumper stayed at his front tire.
So I was close on the 3rd kill!!
~Mike~
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MikeD
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9/30/2002
17:09:03
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By the way....the factory Eagle RSA's suck on the street!!
~Mike~
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FlameRed01
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9/30/2002
17:37:05
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Yeah they do!!! lol
my friend drives a lightning and we were going somewhere together and we were racing. he kept driving even at about 60mph then nailing the gas to about 100mph then hitting the brakes the nailing the gas again. well it didnt seem that fast. i would think an R/T with the mods that some of you guys have would spank a lightning all over the road. lightnings run 13.8 stock i hear, true??? well from this lighting taking off it didnt seem like high 13's was very fast. the guy obviosly made my v-6 look like i was in reverse but god that thing was kinda gay imo.
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Bernd
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10/01/2002
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$7000 would do quite a bit to the 5.9L...if the parts are picked correctly for the application. There are several people on the R/T lists that run mid 13's naturally aspirated...one just hit high 12's with the addition of nitrous (along with other engine modifications). If you can do all the work yourself (no labor charges)...$7000 goes a long way. If you can't, count on up to $2500 on labor charges for heads/cam/intake/exhaust/nitrous (or S/C) installation.
Don't get me wrong here...but the engine in the "L" (not the regular F150's) is built to handle boost and quite a bit of abuse.
At least on our trucks...the windshield trim doesn't fly off at 130mph. (My neighor, down the street, watched it come apart on his '99 "L".) ;)
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Big59er
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10/01/2002
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Yeah I see what you mean about the "L" engine, reminds me of how the 3.8 in the GN worked as far as being able to handle what the turbo dishes out. (The 86'es and the 87'es anyway)
Trim tearing off eh?? I lived over in germany a couple years and drove a ford escourt at around 120mph (200 kph) on the autobahn and I dont remember the trim flying off lol. I guess they dont assume people will be driving a truck to that high a speed... (I dont see why not though when your pushing over 400 horse.)
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92dakotahd
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10/01/2002
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Ok, I'm a dak guy. I like my truck more than anything. But I also put respect where it's due and the Lightning deserves it. It may be more expensive than a dak but it's gonna be cheaper than the SRT-10(but a whoooolllle lot slower :) ) And I think "Ls" look good. I also got passed by one he was doing like 80 with no mufflers and the side exit. First time I've ever been scared just by sound. And I'm no expert but it would take one to beat a lightning with $7K. I know a guy who's getting deal on labor has a very worked out 408 and hasn't broken the sub 13 sec barrier yet.(13.03 I believe) If you want a fast prefabbed truck, it's not bad.
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JB360
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10/01/2002
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I always liked the lightning until I bought a Dodge, although I still think the Lightning is a nice truck, but not worth gettin rid of my Dodge for. I havent raced a Lightning yet but from the ones I've seen, either they arent all they are made out to be, or the ones Ive seen just dont know how to drive. But I know if you were to look around at whats available for the 360 and pick up a few add-ons that work respectively, you could spank the lightning. My truck isnt up to where I want it yet, but its gettin there. Till I find a Lightning, its always fun eatin imports and sh*ttin rice, as well as Mustangs, havent lost to one yet.
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92dakotahd
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10/01/2002
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The new Cobra R runs 11.8 with a pulley change. That is solidly in SUPERCAR status. There is a certain amount of fun in driving off the lot and beating people who have had months of work in their truck/car.
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JB360
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10/01/2002
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Now the Cobra R is a different story, I wanted one but couldnt afford it at the time. Thats a sweet car! I have a friend who has a Saleen, thats also a sweet car. I wouldnt race either one yet, but as for the standard Stangs and the GT's, thats not a problem to win in a race against. Im still a Dodge man and I havent lost to a Ford yet, and when/if I do, that just means more paychecks go straight to my truck, lol.
- 01 Ram Quad Cab Sport, 360, Accel coil, JET Stage II chip, Jet 180 stat, MSD 9.5mm wires, K&N 2nd Gen FIPK, Flowmaster -- no turn-downs -- no pipes -- a lot louder and a lot better sound, Borla headers, Richmond 4.10, Comp Cams magnum 360 cam, Hellwig rear sway bar. (thinking about gettin a set of the R/T heads, anyone know if it'd be worth it?)
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92dakotahd
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10/01/2002
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Like I said, I'm a dodge man but I'm not blind to the fact that the other makers know what they're doing and that in turn make dodge that much better.
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