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2/04/2002
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 Subject: RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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so when are you expecting the kit to be ready
for the market? (4.7L) I am convinced that the
turbo would be much more effective than a
supercharger. but there is always the heat
factor...if you guys say that 8lbs of boost is
safe, then I'm all for it.
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Tom Slick
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2002
22:27:11
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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I'm not sure how quickly we will have the turbo kits ready for the market, as Speedtweaks is moving into a new facility this week. Once things get settled in, we will be prototyping the turbo systems.
Be sure and check the website occassionally for updates...
Thanks,
Tom North
turbokits@speedtweaks.net
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Spaghets
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2002
23:24:55
|  RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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The turbo sounds awesome!!!
Have you guys done any long term testing?
What kind of warranty will you guys provide?
Could you list the parts that will be in your kit?
Are there any downsides to installing a turbo?
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
00:18:38
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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Ooo, I think I sense a little appetite for a turbo on this forum..
You can count me as one of your first buyers for the turbo, I trust Speedtweaks.
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bernd
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2/05/2002
00:55:45
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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Long term testing: Not on the Magnum Engines as they never really had any turbo kits except for the one-off's that people built for themselves. However, the results are just as expected....GOOD!
Warranty: Minimum 1 year on parts (there's a warranty sheet that will come with every kit). We're not going to be liable for mis-use and/or tampering with the system. (This includes a documented oil change schedule to keep the warranty.)
List the parts: Sorry...No. We need to protect our product and the work put into the design, fuel system, and actual kit.
Downsides: Not really...but make sure you use a quality oil (definitely not Pennzoil, Quaker State, or some gas-station no-name). Also make sure all regular maintenance is kept up (that goes for any engine).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
01:23:34
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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Hrm...stoopid taxes, time to start savin'!
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NoDak47
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2/05/2002
19:46:17
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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I have some questions for Speedtweeks. If I bought one of these turbo kits for my 2K 4.7 quadcab, how much hp would you expect my otherwise stock engine to make and how fast would you expect it to go. Will it beat a Mustang GT? Is just the kit parts under warranty? What about the rest of the engine? I heard that the pistons are week in this engine. Is there a chance of braking them if I do something wrong? Is the pistons covered under the warranty for a year? What kind of oil should I use with the kit? Will I need to get a shift kit or beef up my transmission? Sorry for all the questions.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
20:28:30
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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THey answer a couple of these on their site..
What kind of oil should I use with the kit?
A good synthetic, Mobil 1 in particular. Change this every 2K-3K miles. It seems this is how most people destory their turbos. Not the right oil, old oil, or it's too hot and need a different weight or cooling.
It's a direct bolt on, they are going to do some more testing once they get moved into their new shop. Bernd already said 8 pounds would be safe with the 4.7. That is already a HUGE boost. On their site it says 6-8 boost, but of course you can always get more.
Will it beat a Mustang GT?
Stock, but how many Mustang GT owners don't mod THEIR vehicles?
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Tom Slick
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
20:44:14
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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I can't really say how much HP you would get from your stock 4.7, until we finish testing. But I can tell you what range it would be in...
a 4.7L(287c.i.) engine @ 8psi boost would produce between 338 to 501hp with the midpoint being 420hp
A 4300lb vehicle with 338hp should run in the mid to high 13's... the same weight vehicle with 420hp should run in the mid to high 12's (traction depending)
So, yes, it should outrun a Mustang GT, and put a big grin on your face!
I can't give you any details of the warranty as of yet, but the 4.7L should have no problem handling 8psi boost, intercooled.
I recommend synthetic straight weight oil, like Mobil 1 or Red Line... always changing the oil at the proper intervals is very important.
A shift kit or other tranny mods would be entirely up to you...
Thanks,
Tom North
turbokits@speedtweaks.net
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NoDak47
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2/05/2002
21:28:29
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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Thanks for the info. I'll keep watching for updates. I would love to beat my buddy's Mustang!
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DakotaSilver
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2/05/2002
23:53:36
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What kind of price range are we talking with these new turbos? And is it going to be something that the average Shadetree mechanic can put on or professionally? I need to start saving now so give me a close estimate!!!!
I'm getting so excited just thinking about this!
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Tom Slick
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
09:00:03
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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I'd start saving up like you are buying a supercharger...
It will take some mechanical skill to install the kit, but you don't have to be a professional to do it.
I'm just as excited as all of you are about these turbo kits, if not more!!!
Thanks,
Tom North
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Duner
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2/06/2002
10:06:22
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Whenever the talk is about turbos.... I'm always excited!
Everyone must remember one thing.
Power corrupts. You get some and you always want more! After driving this thing with 14 lbs thru it a couple of times.... it's almost painful to go back to 7 lbs.
Anyone who is lacking in self control should not even consider a turbo kit.
Boy am I in trouble! hehehe
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Sandman
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2/06/2002
20:08:41
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Well I might need to start saveing my dimes.
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Horbedarn
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2/06/2002
21:59:31
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Is there a point where too many miles on the engine is a bad idea to put a turbo on?
Thanks
2000, CC, SLT, 4x4, 4.7, 3.55, Auto
Borla Cat-Back, JBA Headers, 72mm TB, 4" Z-Tube
3923's, 180 T-Stat, IAT Adjuster
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bernd
*GenIII*
2/06/2002
22:25:46
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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It would depend on how hard those miles are. Personal recommendation is not higher that 60K miles unless it's been kept in excellent condition (maintenance schedule) but would also recommend changing the head gaskets if it's over 60K miles (safety precaution).
Duner: C'mon man...there's no such thing as "Too Much Power". LOL ;) (I'm going for the Turbo/Nitrous thing on the V6...hehehehe.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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CW
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2/06/2002
22:45:21
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Too much is never enouph. I just keep running out of money. Damn house. lol
2001 RC 4.7 5sp 9.25" 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm throttle body, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" cold air, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat. Electric fan Convertion, Awaiting HO cams.
Working on adjustable fuel pressure with return.
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Tom Slick
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2/06/2002
23:37:29
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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To me, "Too much power" is just about right, maybe a little more would be better though...
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Duner
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2/07/2002
01:15:58
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While it's true you can never have too much power... once you've had power, it's hard to go back to something slower.
I had the priveledge of going high 6's at just under 200 mph back in the early 80's. That just about ruined me. After going that fast - nothing else was any fun to drive. It took a good 10 years before anything felt fast again.
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bernd
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2/07/2002
02:03:26
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Heheheheh...I know the feeling.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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pato castro
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2/07/2002
07:34:33
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Duner: What did you drive??? 200 mph in 6 sec.?
...s**t...
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Duner
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2/07/2002
10:23:18
| Confessions of a former Nitro Junkie
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It was a Fuel Altered. Way back in '82 - I had been one of those "work for food" pit crew kind of guys on the car for quite a while. I was the lowest man on the totem pole when it came to mechanical skills, but I didn't mind getting my hands dirty either. My buddy that owned it had twisted his knee while playing volleyball of all things.... and couldn't get into it to drive it. When the owner couldn't drive it he told me to give it a shot. All we had to do was get the car qualified and he would pick up the tow money. Since before that the quickest thing I had driven was my 10 second Camaro, it was quite a jump in performance to say the least. WOOHOO!! They didn't police the rules back then like they do now. I certainly didn't have a fuel license, but inside a fire suit and helmet - everybody looks alike. I only got to make 3 full passes in the car but what an absolute rush! Everytime I got out of the car my knees were shaking! (hands too) I guess the body can only handle so much adrenalin at one time? hehehe Jeeze, I'm getting all excited again just talking about it! I guess I'll always be a Nitro Junkie from now on.
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bernd
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2/07/2002
11:07:26
|  RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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...stop it Duner. I want my BB Chevy back now. (12.2 @ 120mph - No nitrous, blower, or any power adder...just the well built motor and a Holley Projection-II - and it was a "408" - 396 .060" over).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Darcviper
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
11:20:14
| RE: Why not Twin Turbo Kit for 4.7L, Bernd?
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ook cool im corect that a turbo does require no building of the engine like a super charger right? so all i would have to do is bolt it on
and set it up as directed :O) of corse and id be runin 420 hp on my 4.7 dak stock motor
if so how much is this gona cost me?
and how much is it gona shorten the life of my motor?
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