RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 - Dodge Dakota Forum

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kerleyfries Dodge Dakota 7/09/2001 18:20:04	Subject: RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: hey matt, you are 16. grow up before you talk shit. all dodges are good. dont be a little prick about things. i bet that you dont even know jack shit about the 4.7. think before you open your cakehole. food for thought there biggun. no bashing in the chat room. just chatting.
sandman Dodge Dakota 7/09/2001 18:39:28	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: There is nothing wrong with any of the engines dodge uses in it's trucks. Right know the 5.9 has to be the cheapest engine to modify out of the choices mentioned. The 5.9 also offers alot more low end torque than the 4.7. I think as time goes on we will see a proliferation of after market parts for the 4.7 liter. The 4.7 litter has alo of poentional from a tuners stand point. It has enough displacement to produce low end torque and revs fast and easy enough to have high RPM pottential. I would like to get ahold of one to play with. I can almost hear the wine of the twin sequintial turbos pumping in 26 psi of bost pressure and the BOV's popping with each shift. It's enough to make me warm and fuzy all over. I am helping a Gentelman put a 540 Cubic Inch chevy big block together with electronic fuel injection for his 68 Camaro. Check this one out. I am getting a low millage chevy 2.8 liter 60 degree V6 from a frind and I am going to build it up to put out 270HP with normal asperiation. I am useing the same bulders guide that GM puts out for IMSA sedan class raceing. I am going to put it into a 5 spd Berrata. If only someone wouyld give me a 4.7liter.
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/09/2001 19:38:18	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey Mat bring your R/T around Vancouver sometime and I will show you what a light weight engine with high RPM's and OHC will do to that 4,200+ lb R/T. I must warn you it won't be pretty. Sandman is right on about the unbelivable potential this engine has.I dream of 12# of boost from a super charger forged heads and beefed up internals with a 150 HP NOS shot. Why do you think Dodge is using the 4.7 so exstesivley now even though it costs more to produce than a 5.9 or even the coming 5.7 Hemi. It's the next big thing and you should fear it.
kerleyfries Dodge Dakota 7/09/2001 19:51:55	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: right on there jeffster. the 5.9 is a good engine. but come on man, why do you think that the 4.7 is out?? duh... all i have done to my 2001 4.7 auto is true duals, 2 chambered flows, cold air induction, and took off the clutch fan and wired the electric into the ignition and that little sucker is running mid 14's all day. what rt out there does that?? oh thats right there isnt one. 4.7's are the bomb. people just dont want to admit it. i dont see why
BH-R/T Dodge Dakota 7/09/2001 20:45:08	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey Jeffster and Kerleyfries,why dont you pick on someone your own size,leave Matt alone,I am Glad to see a young man headed in the right direction,whats with that,"bring your truck to vancouver",I told you once and I will tell you again,put up or shut up,when I asked you last time if you have ever even been on a race track before,or on a dyno you didnt even answer my questions because you and your puss 4.7 are all talk,I threw down my stock Dyno #'s and Guess what I just went to Carlsbad raceway on Sat, and my 4241 lbs club cab beast R/T went 14.31 @ 94.91 mph with a 2.21 60 foot on the radials,I even launch better on the street,G-Tech 0 to 60 is 5.71 sec,heres my mods,k&n intake,3" single flowmaster cat back,mopar pcm,Jacobs ignition and crower 1.7 roller rockers,thats it! And get this in the next couple weeks I am going to install a 2400 stall torque converter and shift kit that will knock 4 tenths off my e.t. and then mopar headers,1.5 tenths,intake manifold and t.b.,2.5 tenths,and then its time for a 8 lb vortech and a 50 shot of nos,so why your are rubbing your 4.7 with a diaper,I will be screaming down the 1/4 mile to the tune of 12.0 @ 116mph!So you can keep your high reving,ohcammer,(whats with that anyway?HIGHREVING) who ever said a motor that revs higher is better?So a honda 4 banger is better because it revs to 7500 rpm?dumb)What is with you guys,just face it,you are wrong for starting this debate.
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/10/2001 00:08:16	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Comparing a 4 banger that rev's high to a high reving V8. Come on BH/-RT that's just plain silly. I hate to say it but the 4.7 is designed more around modren racing engines than the 5.9. Take a look at what all the fastest exotic cars in the world are using. Lightweight materials, smaller liters with higher RPM's. How do you think 4 bangers have ever even kept up with V8's in the first place. They use techniques like OHC to do this. Finnaly DC is incorporating this technology into the American icon, the V8. I have driven a R/T and it felt strong don't get me wrong but it's about to become old news. Look what engine they decided to boost up to 270 HP for the 2002 Grand Cherokee. Yes it's a 4.7 not the 5.9. They won't get a 14.7 1/4 mile time out of such a heavy engine like the 5.9. with out a overhaul. I am sorry but all good things come to an end as they become obsolete and in the next 2 years the 5.9 is about to join that list. This poor kid is 16 and has no money for mod's I am sure and will have to walk back and forth half the time because his tank is empty. The 5.9 is only supperior when modded just because more mod's are available. Anyways I will do a run with just intake and exaust this month and will post my numbers. I have never really given much weight to any numbers just thrown on to a forum anyways. I have also heard of some R/T owners running mid 15's and struggling to get into the 14's yet nobody has ever struggled any forum I have been on to get 14's in a 4.7 5 speed. Many are doing it bone stock. The power to weight ratio along with the overall truck weight with a 5 speed pretty much tell a common sense story if you ask me. I had a guy that's doing up a Camaro come up and look at my truck. He knew a lot about engines and after going over my 4.7 he said this engine was designed to run fast and race producing high RPM's and not so much for stump pulling power. He was right on the money. Even if the R/T pulls away right at the line I expect the OHC to really show it's power as the speed increases. You hammer tha gas on this truck in 4th and 70 MPH and you will hear that woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa sound especially with the intake and back. This thing just hauls in forth from 70 MPH right up to the speed limiter shut down at 117MPH.
Hersbird Dodge Dakota 7/10/2001 00:23:10	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Well I finally got my R/T. I did end up getting a 2000 RC with A/C as the only option. It is still pure stock and well broken in with 11,000 miles. I'd love to take it to the track, it feels really fast, much faster then my old modified 93 Dakota SLT RC 5.2 auto that ran 14.9 at sears point. There is no 1/4 tracks very close but I'll see what I can find. Worst case I'll get a g-tech and post some times. My brother has a 2002 WRX with automatic, with a good powerbrake it launches pretty hard, they are supposed to be good for a high 14 to low 15 1/4 mile so I'll run him and see. I'm amost positive this R/T is faster then that 93 was and I have the 14.9 at 92MPH slips to prove that one. This R/T puts the handling of that gen II dakota to shame, I think it handles as well as my 90 Beretta GTZ did or my 98 Neon sport, but it is in danger of hanging the rear end out if your not careful, (which is actually bigtime fun if you plan it.)
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/10/2001 00:55:48	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Enjoy the ride Hersbird. Any mod's coming??
Smokin Dakota Enthusiast 7/10/2001 02:04:37	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hmmm, BH-R/T, I had the exact same mod's as you did on my 2000 Rc R/T expect for the roller rockers which are good for ohh about 5-10 h.p.Since Most R/T's hit low 200's on the dyno. (Some only get 190's) And since most CC R/T's run around 15.4 STOCK then you must have have gained close to 100 h.p. at the wheels with just those mod's. The Proven Theory is for every 10 h.p. you gain a tenth. Funny how those mod's didn't make my truck a 13 second truck ,but only a 14.8 in the 1/4. I say at MOST you picked up 40 h.p. at the wheels which would be good for maybe a 1/2 second in the 1/4 and even if your truck hit 15.0 stock which I've never heard of a CC doing then you only be sitting at about 14.5 in the 1/4. That 14.3 sounds really fishy to me. I think your bullshitting us and until I see a timeslip from your truck I will believe this. I definitly don't believe the 5.71 0-60 mph. You think you could hang with a 99 or 2000 model Lightning? They only turned 5.6 to 5.7 0-60 mph. I think if you tried they would eat you at 1/2 throttle. A 2000 Lighting made my R/T look like a sissy from 0-60 mph. But I guess since my truck only hit 6.4 0-60mph on the G-Tech's that's why. I think you could add any Blower you want and keep the mod's you have now and you'll never touch a 00 or 01 Lightning. I think Jeff would have your ass right now if you were to race. As I learned on Dakota R/T, just because you post a time doesn't mean it's true. Every one has numbers on the keyboard and can all punch them. Your CC R/T(4300lb's) ,very few mod's, and very low times just don't compute.
Fluid Dodge Dakota 7/10/2001 03:01:55	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Smokin - I don't know if we're being BS'd or not, but plenty of R/Ts get sub-14s stock, even a few CCs. Take a look on www.dragtruk.com. There are trucks listed there modded like BH-RT's, and they pull similarly low times. Is everyone lying? No, I don't think so. There is a lot of skill involved in launching a truck vs a car, and this is a big player in quarter mile times. BH-RT may be more skillful than most...... True, some CC R/Ts only get mid-15s, but as R/T owners know there is a wide variation in 1/4 mile times for stock trucks. The dyno shows this too, as you point out. Why? Don't know, just that it happens. Why do you think that Motor Trend magazine tested three different R/Ts and got 16.0 15.4 and 15.0 times for each? Odd, but true. You're a bit offbase on your claim that there must be a 100 hp gain for his mods. Go here and do the math - it only needs 58 more hp at the wheels: http://www.prestage.com/carmath/calc_HP_fromETandWeight.asp "Rules of thumb" are for those who are all thumbs! ;)
Kris239 Gen II 7/10/2001 11:42:47	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey Smokin, Where did you get the 354lbs. ft.on the 5.7L from? Check out this link: http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b061401.htm Look at the 7th paragraph which states: "The Buzz is that the production engine will put out 350 horsepower and over 400 lbs. ft. of torque!" Kris Harnack 1994 Dodge Dakota SLT 3.9L V6 / RC / SB / Auto
94LT1 Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 00:54:04	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey Jeffster, first off if you think your 4.7 will beat a 5.9 then you have another thing coming. BH-R/T, is my best friend. I WAS THERE when he ran the 14.3. For you others, you obviously don't know anything about racing or you would know that the first 60' of the is the most important part of the race. BH-R/T has mastered his launch to the point were he will hand me my ass of the line against my 94 Trans Am (which BTW ran a 13.79@101.3) fortunatly my LT1 (or as you would call it "a thing of the past") makes more power with a lot less weight. So Jeffster, I you think you motor is more advanced than mine or better than my dinosaur push rod LT1, bring it on, I'll put $500 on me, I'll even give you a 5 car head start. This reminds me of the 5.0 vs. 4.6 Mustang debates. We all know the 5.0 won that hands down. How many 4.6 Stangs do you see in the 8s, which there "superior" over head cam heads? So Jeffster enough with the Bullshit you've been called out, Put up or shut up. I'll be there to video tape you lose, to me or Bill, your choice. I'll be awaiting your reply.
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 01:16:46	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Mod for Mod no problem. If your going to be in Vancouver give me a call. Mission race way is world class. I don't really as I have said before beleive any BS posted on a forum. Half the crap I have posted probably BS but I am not going to throw around or make up numbers I don't have. All I can say is I am not scared and will race an R/T any day. Win or lose I don't care but race I will. My motor is definetly more advanced that's without a doubt. Even my brothers Kia engine is more advanced but I will put my money on the R/T on that one. Later.
94LT1 Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 01:54:04	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: If you want to sit there and make excuses like your motor is more advanced be my guess, whatever makes you happy. The FACT is you will lose to Bills R/T, you will lose to my Trans Am. BTW what up with the mod for mod crap? Anything goes on the street buddy. Don't claim your motor is "superior" when your seeing tailights. I have an Cold air intake, a Flowmaster cat back, air foil, hypertec, and a strut brace. I will take them all off and race you. I'll still win. I guess you think you motor is "superior" to the LS1, huh? The LS1 is a push rod engine so it must suck, right? The LS1 revs to 6,000 rpms, makes 350+ hp, gets 25 mpg and runs low 13s STOCK. But yours is far more superior, right. Lets see how superior you motor is when it comes time to take the heads off and get some work done to them. I hope you have some KY Jelly cause it going to hurt. The fact is your are driving a truck. There are two trucks in production worthy or racing One being the Lightning and the other the Dakota R/T. You on the other hand drive a Sport. A very nice truck, but its not the almighty track terror you claim it to be. There is a reason Dodge put the 5.9 in the R/T. The R/T is the best Dakota you can get, so dodge decided to put the best motor in it. The 4.7 on the other hand came out in 2000, not in time for the R/T. But I asure you, it did exist back in 97 and if Dodge wanted to put it in the R/T because its "superior", they would have pushed devolpment of the 4.7 forward to make the R/Ts debue. The only reason the 4.7 exists is because Dodge needed a motor that would pass Califonias strict smog standards of the up coming years. There is way too much ignorance on this board. I can't believe how you can come on to this board and bash your fellow Dodge owners. I have never seen such BSing between one brand before in my life. Even the LS1 vs. LT1 debates are more mature than this. The simple fact is that you have been asked to put up or shut up. Obviously we are to far away to race head to head, so go get a time slip so we can see what this "superior" 4.7 can do. No bench racing, no quoting other people times. I want yours. If you choose not to believe Bills times thats fine. I was there to witness it. If you don't believe my time then you will get a big shock when you encounter your next LT1 or LS1 fbody. So until then keep you mouth closed. We've put up our end now its your turn to back up your statements, I'll be waiting. P.S. If you're ever in San Diego I would be more than happy to give you a good look at my tailights.
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 02:37:45	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Who gives a $hit about your piece of $hit LS1. My buddy had a 55 Chevy that would destroy it. You are obviously so full of crap you keep on talking about some car that has no relavance to the topic heading 4.7 vs 5.9. That car is too slow to brag about on a truck forum. I am sorry your little buddy who you share your KY with is so upset that he had to find a friend with a somewhat fast car in order to feel better. Did I ever say that I would beat his R/T in the first place before you went off on a tangent? There is no question a nicely modded R/T will smoke a 4.7 5 speed. The 4.7's are very limited mod wise but from what I ahve seen only about 10% of the R/T's around here are modded and I feel confident I will beat them. They can easily change that with mod's but as a stand alone engine I will take my 4.7. I feel it's better that the 5.9. because it's so light and it has the OHC I've always wanted in a V8. I drove a nearly identical R/T and decided OHC was the way of the future so ordered the same color truck with the same R.C as the R/T I tested but picked the 4.7 5 speed. That's the way of the future and I didn't want to be stuck with an obsolete truck once the 5.9 is buried. Quit comparing apples to oranges and get back in that piece of $hit car your driving and comfort your friend with a big hug. BTW high 13's too slow to brag about with that car. The SVT Cobra does that stock and eventually my ride will do more than that and it's a work truck not a sport car. Pathetic!!
BH-R/T Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 02:42:51	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey "SMOKIN" , you must not get around much,if you dont beleive my times I could care less,launching a truck is alot more difficult than a car and must guys (including you) cant do it worth shit,thats why you only got a 6.4 0 to 60 time,I got the same time with my catback and intake with only about 3000 miles on the truck.I have smoked 13 sec cars off the line in my R/T plenty of times,and about the lightning,I will rip them a new ass when I am done with my truck,I said 12 flat and I meant it! If you dont think R/T's are this fast because you either you had a turd R/T or you just couldnt drive it,then go to www.dragtruk.com and look then go to www.Dakotart.com and look at the mpegs from the last meat,you can even watch a big solar yellow club cab (aka big bird) do a 12.05 @ 116 mph.That is not as rare as you think,I personally can think of 4 different friends of mine with R/T's (2 club cabs and 2 reg cabs) that are all in the mid to low 12's and 1 that is into the 11's.So can you say Lightning killers,and if you like those lightnings so much why dont you just cross over to the darkside and get one for yourself,I will personal smoke you in it when I am done,Jeffster,pretty lame with that "mod for mod" bullshit,but if you like I will find a reg cab R/T with just a intake to bust a mid 14 for you,just face it,you are going to be looking at that 5.9 R/T on the tailgate forever,unless you race one driven by guys like "Smokin",then you will have to look at the same badge,but on the side of the truck instead.
BH-R/T Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 03:05:19	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Hey Jeffster!I dont need any help taking you on pretty boy,I told my friend about your b.s. and he wanted to check it out for himself.We know racing,we know whats fast and you are NOT!its amazing what balls you have behind that keyboard isnt it,You call an LS1 a peice of shit,but at the same time you say your precious P.O.S. 4,7 is the way of the future , I think you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground! And dont qoute us 1/4 times that you are reading out of your motor trend B.S.especially a ford limited edition over rated P.O.S.,like my friend said,a LS1 camaro does LOW 13's stock,smoke that SVT ohc!!!!And what about a Viper,pushrod motor that does high 11's stock.And Dodge will stop making 5.9's,but the mopar and other after market parts will always be there and continue to grow,so I dont care what you do to your 4.7,shit put 2 of them in your truck since you like them so much,I will always smoke you regardless!!And that new 5.7 hemi you all love so much,pushrod motor and half of that motor is bassed on the GM LS1!!!Bet you didnt know that shit!Give it up!
94LT1 Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 03:05:57	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Pathetic? Whos the one making claims he can't back up? Your buddy has a 55 Chevy? Whoopty fucking do. I know a guy that knows a guy that has a brother whos dating a girl that has a friend who does 10s. Your point?? QUOTE "Hey Mat bring your R/T around Vancouver sometime and I will show you what a light weight engine with high RPM's and OHC will do to that 4,200+ lb R/T. " Theres your quote, back it up. Yeah, I'll agree, the LT1 and LS1 have no place on this forum, but I used them to prove my point that this so called new technology is not all its cracked uo to be. Look at Ford. Their GT finally caught up to the LT1. The Cobra, give me a fucking break. A 2001 $35,000+ Cobra better beat my $8,000 94 Trans Am. Who the one comparing apples to oranges now? Lets be fair a 01 Z28 will murder a Cobra for $10,000 less. Still waiting for the reason why your motor is so "advanced". Did you ever say you could beat his R/T? No, but no one said you did. We are asking you to prove your above statement. If you don't want the challenge that fine, then shut your mouth. So now you have to go and bash me by saying I'm gay. What ever. Say what ever you want to divert the attention to the fact that you have been called out and refuse to except the challenge. If you chose the 4.7 because you like it better than the 5.9 that fine. I've got noithing against that. I chose a Trans Am because I have no need for a truck. Thats all beside the point. The FACT is you are making claims and you can't handle it when someone says prove it. BTW, anyone can talk tough behind a computer screen. Your such a fucking joke. I've asking you 3 times now and Bill has asked you at least 2 more, put up or shut up. Don't make me ask again
Anthony G Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 10:03:11	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: If this 4.7L is so great why is Dodge creating a 5.7L? I don't see this 5.7L being so great either, maybe if you like things stock. Mopar Mag Info on Hemi 5.7L Cast-Iron, Deep Skirt Block, Aluminum Heads, Dual spark Plugs, Tuned Intake Manifold. Rated at 330hp and 375tq NOT 354hp 400tq Yes this engine is beefy already, but I don't think it's going to be easy to get any extra ponies from it. It's no way in hell there going to use this engine in the current Dakota setup. Plan on getting added weight an a possible ugly shell. I like my current 01 R/T. This Stock 5.9L pumps out 224hp 327tq on the dyno as of 7-7-01 with 4400miles. I haven't gone to the track yet, but I don't think 14's should be a problem moving 3900lbs. I got that number from the shipping weight on my Title.
BJGray Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 15:21:26	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: I was thinking of becoming a member of Dodge Dakotas, after seeing this type of bashing going on every time I get on line I think not. Have a good day.
Jason Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 16:04:44	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: I really do not understand why there is bashing going on abour other vechiles when the topic was 4.7 vs 5.9.To me who really cares,both engines are good performers as well as my 5.2L.The only thing the 5.9 has over the 4.7 is a proven track record and maybe a few higher numbers in performence.I just wish people would simmer down and talk about the topic.Well just my 2cts 99/RC4x4/Sports plus/5.2L(318)/duals with eldelbrock 14" open element/32x11.50s with 15x8 optima alloys
kerleyfries Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 17:23:21	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: isnt that the truth. bunch of lil kids. grow up.. learn to be men not retards. some of you have legit comments, but come on guys give it a rest. if i wanted to act like a donkey i sure could and be just like everyone else. you know that i have stated before that i have a 4.7 and did i get mad and all huffy puffy?? no!! i dont think that i did. its all just fun and racing. good grief.. cant we all just get along?
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 19:10:43	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: I have no more responses for I am talking to a wall. BHRT you really showed your prone to exzageration with that running a 14.5 with only an intake. Almost anyone other than an R/T owner you create yourself knows that is bull. 94LT1 As for my response to Mat that was because he was being silly calling thae 4.7 a weak motor. Common how can it be week when off the lot it's pulling 14's stock with the right gearing. So what if your friends 55 Chevy will beat my car you say?????? Don't forget you started this whole sharade with you challenging my Dak with your car. Big deal I have a near stock truck my friends car is a more logical pairing for your car. We are talking trucks here not slow ass sports cars anyways. I don't care how fast your car is. If you have a Dodge truck that runs 13's I want to hear about it and know what mod's youve done. You car beating my truck will do nothing for improving my track time. This thread was comparing the (DODGE) 5.9 to the 4.7. I have said it time and time again if you have the money for serious mod's the 5.9 will clean out the 4.7. As a stock or very mildly modified truck my choice is a 4.7 5 speed with 3.92 LS and I very happy with my truck have no regret's and am confident I will do well and take down an equally done out R/T. Not a well modded R/T obviously. Good luck with your car.
kerleyfries Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 19:38:09	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: mod up a 4.7 and then lets talk. 5.9's are good cause they got mods at the moment. they will gain more respect as the time passed and more applications are made for our trucks. just wait. they'll see
Duner Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 20:17:07	Comparison of Mods? IP: Logged Message: Here's the specs and best times for 4 different trucks - on the same track, on the same day, all racing each other. Track conditions were hot and slippery, air temp was hot with high humidity. There were 110 other trucks in attendance also (all R/Ts). Very many of them were WAY faster than these 4 selected. About 2/3 of the trucks were not. The quickest went 12.05 @ 116 mph in these miserable conditions. Mine was the only odd-ball (4.7). These R/Ts ranged from bone stockers to absolute monsters. This comparison does away with the different track/altitude/temperature differences that show up between numbers posted on the net. They were all in the same place at the same time....apples to apples! '99 Club Cab R/T Mopar Cold Air, 4bbl M-1, Mopar Headers, Catco hi flo cat, 3 inch cat back, flowmaster 40 series, level ten shift kit, 180 stat, MSD 8.5s, Autolite 3923s, PCM, Nitto 275 50's, lakewood t-bars. (15.3 @ 91 mph) '99 Club Cab R/T QuickD 52 mm TB QuickD cold air intake Mopar headers 3923 plugs catco cat 3" 5444 Spintech muffler Mopar PCM 27x10 Goodyear Eagle stock car slicks Caltrac traction bars Kenny Brown X-brace Taylor 8mm Spiro Pro wires Accell Cap and Rotor Hotchkis suspension ASP underdrive pulleys (15.3 @ 89 mph) '99 Regular Cab R/T MoPar PCM, 4bbl M1 Intake Manifold, Airaid 'cold air' intake,180* Stat, Accel Brass cap and rotor, Autolite 3923's, Full Hotchkis kit, X-brace, Hoosier 26x10x15 slicks @17psi (15.12 @ 90.34 mph) '00 Club Cab 4.7 5-speed (me) Custom PCM, 68mm TB, K&N Drop-In Filter w/stock Airbox, Mopar 3" Cat-Back, Flowmaster 70 Series, Spring clamps, Michelin 255x255x17s on R/T wheels @ 22 psi (14.90 @ 91.4 mph) I think the impressive lists of mods for these trucks listed should tell you that they weren't stockers and that they were there to race. My 4.7 doesn't have that impressive of a list of mods but the times speak for themselves. You 4.7 guys... don't go and get all crazy over this either. All these R/T guys are my friends. They were kind enough to allow me to join them on the track. I really miss my R/T with it's 5.9 and wish I had never gotten rid of it. I'm making do with my 4.7 for now.... and so far it's holding it's own quite well. I only posted this to show verifiable times vs mods for both engines. Please, no more name calling or bickering. We're all in the same family!
94LT1 Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 20:24:25	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: Jeffster, I know you want this to end and thats fine, but please let me have my rebuttle. As far as my car being slow. Let me clarify this. I have a 94 Trans Am with 120,000 miles, Auto, and 2.73s. With that being said I think I did pretty damn good. As far as why I brought the LT1 and LS1 into this topic was clear, or so I tought. I was try to make comparisons to you on what you claim to be low tech to what you claim to be advanced. You said your 4.7 was advanced because it had overhead cams and the 5.9 wasn't because it has pushrods. I don't know much about the 5.9 so I brought the LT1 and LS1 into this topic to prove my point. Sorry if that confused you. As far as your truck taking out a similarly modded 5.9, I disagree. As far as 4.7 dakotas running 14s stock, I disagree. All I asked was for the proof. Nothing more. You couldnt provide with any logical info so I challenged you to see if that would solve it and all you did was throw a hissy fit. So I agree with you on one thing and one thing only. Lets let this die, I won't make any more replies. I said my opinion and you said yours. We obviously disagree.
Duner Dodge Dakota 7/12/2001 20:45:25	More Comparison... IP: Logged Message: Oh, and I forgot to state in my post above.....everybody (including myself) complained that they were running about 3-tenths slower than they normally did. Don't let the numbers fool you. They would all run way better on a cooler, less humid day. But the comparison is still valid. Mod for Mod, here's how these 4 stacked up against each other.
Jeffster Dodge Dakota 7/13/2001 00:01:30	RE: 4.7 OR 5.9 IP: Logged Message: No problem LT1 I will assume that all the 4.7 5 speed owners I have talked to on all these forums on many sites were all telling untruths and none have ever ran 14's stock. That being said I will run my truck probably next week and get the real answers I am looking for. I have little doubt what kind of sprinting power this engine has I am driving it. I have also driven an R/T and know they are very fast as well.
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