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2/21/2001
02:11:47

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99 Dakota V8 4x4 SLT Club Cab
automatic - 50k miles - purchased brand new

I like this truck fine but the chirping is gonna
send me right over the edge. Here's the deal,
when the truck is slowing down I get a very
loud chirping sound that is in sync with the
engines "deccelleration". That is to say, when
the engine is idling down, or "deccellerating",
the chirping kicks in at the same rythm as the
engine until the truck comes to a stop.

The chirping does not happen when in neutral
or park and you rev the engine and let it idle
down, only when the truck is moving. If I put
the truck in neutral while idling down to a stop
the noise can still occur.

The sound is heard through the dash and
side windows when the windows are up.
When the windows are down it is just as loud
or louder and sounds like it's coming from
underneath or the engine block.

As I've read in some archived messages from
others, it is very sporadic but when it gets
going it seems to get on a roll and stick
around for a few weeks. I think it may be
related to a change in temperature, however, it
happens when it's hot or cold outside. (I live
in Minnesota and New York.)

I've replaced the serpentine bel and the belt
tensioner at the dealership and it seemed to
help a little but the sound came back not long
after. I read in another message about a very
similar sounding problem that replacing the
leak detection pump solved the problem.

CAN ANYONE RELATE OR HELP ME WITH
THIS PROBLEM? There's nothing like driving
a new, perfectly good truck and having it chirp
like your grandmother's old station wagon to
put you in a bad frame of mind.



Manuel
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2/22/2001
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This sounds very familiar to me. I had this problem. It sounds a bit like a fan belt going bad, but only occurs when the vehicle is in motion. I've had my truck at the dealer probably four times for this. First, they lubed a bunch of stuff. Then they replaced the ball joints. Then they replace the front drive shaft. They finally concluded that the brake rotors were bad. The times that the chirping occured seemed that it could be a brake problem, but it didn't sound like a brake squeal. So I had a friend help me replace the rotors and pads. That seemed to make it slow down, but I did catch it starting again once after that. I'm not convinced its been fixed for good. I first noticed it on a long trip. My first instinct was to replace the fan belt. Tell me if this sounds familiar. It seems to have a tendency to make the noise after a driving at highway speeds. Its almost impossible to duplicate in wet conditions. That may be why I haven't really heard it. Weather has been pretty sloppy here in CO.

Manuel J Baca
98 Sport
5.2 4x4

joseph stephans
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2/23/2001
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Thanks for the reply Manuel. It's sounds very
similar to my trucks condition. The brake pad
and rotor replacement is interesting because
like you say it's sounds nothing like a brake
problem. I'm going to look into that.

It did seem to happen more after highway
speeds in the beginning but now it seems
completely random. I don't even remember
when it started - I wish I did. The wet driving
conditions is where our stories differ. I
definatley here the annoying little chirp in all
conditions. AAAHHHH. We will get to the
bottom of this!

Joe Stephans




Manuel
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2/23/2001
10:18:04

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Let me know what you find out. I don't think its a huge problem. My feeling is that its something really simple, but just very frustrating. I'll post anything new on this subject.

Manuel J Baca
98 Sport
5.2 4x4

mike n
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2/23/2001
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Yeah, i get that squeal a lot. I've got a 97(bought it used last summer), and i've been told by many different people what it might be, but they are never sure. so i haven't done anything with it yet till i know for sure what it is. but i'll tell you one thing, its annoying.

mike



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2/25/2001
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Mike, can you give a brief description? Let us know if you get it figured out. Sooner or later one of is bound to find the answer. Thanks

Manuel J Baca
98 Sport
5.2 4x4

Bob Kozul
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7/30/2001
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You ain't gonna believe it. Assuming we have the same chirping noise, I developed one several months ago. At first, it seemed to occur only when I depressed the brake pedal. Later, it occurred ramdomly, with road vibration, when stopping or slowing. Try pulling up on the brake pedal (hard) with the top of your foot when you hear the noise. If it stops, check the brake lines. One of my brake lines running along inside the drivers side frame rail, was out of a plastic retainer clip. I snapped it back, and believe it or not, the chirping stopped. Hope this helps.



Manuel
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7/30/2001
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I'm definitely going to try it. Bob, if this works, I owe you. It's completely nerve wracking.



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7/30/2001
20:56:14

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Those are awesome suggestions...I have not heard this but as I thought about it while you described that replacing the belt made it go away for a while made me suspect the belt tensioner..
just another thought..good luck with this one, I hope that brake line fixes it.



Tony
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7/30/2001
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I had the same problem on my '00 Quad Cab. After 3 trips to the shop & replacement of all U-Joints, front & back, the chirping has ended.
The dealer told me that all the U-Joints were dry, no grease. I suggested that since I only had 2,000 miles on the truck that they must not have been packed at the factory, of course they didn't agree; but that's OK it didn't cost me anything and the ANNOYING CHIRP IS GONE.

'00 Quad Cab SLT Plus 5.9L



Manuel
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7/31/2001
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My U-joints were replace. The pitch of the squeal sounds like a fan belt, so thats the first thing I replaced. I didn't help at all, and upon further investigation, it wasn't really coming from the engine compartment. I still haven't tried Bob's trick though. I'm optimistic about it.



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7/31/2001
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Well, I tried pulling up on the brake pedal and it didn't seem to do anything to stop it. I may not have been pulling up hard enough though. Mine only seems to do it when the truck is accelerating. Doing that and getting my foot around the clutch under the brake might not let me do it though. I am going to trace my brakelines. This noise is enough to make me burn the thing.



Manuel
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8/03/2001
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Well I'm about 85% sure that the squealing, chirping noise on my truck is being caused by the brakes. This is why. I was looking at brake cleaner, but decided that it was probably a little to strong and would require more effort than I wanted to put in to test it. I bought some Super clean wheel cleaner that removes brake dust. Sprayed the wheels and the front rotors and rinsed as directed. It hasn't made the noise since and that was two days ago. Anyone have any experience with that stop squeak adhesive stuff? Its supposed to hold the pad tight against the caliper. I think that might work. Then there's the 15% doubt I have because I've never heard brakes chirp in the same tone as a bad fan belt.



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9/07/2001
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Well I too have a chirping noise which at first seemed to be coming from the fan belt. I have lubed just about every moving part under the hood, and changed out the belt with no luck. I will try the brake line trick, but the chirping I am experiancing occurs at all times, even when I am just ideling. The only time I do not here it is when I am above 2100 rpm.

My truck is a 97, and this is the first major problem (more of an anoyance)I have had.

If any body has any other sugstions, at this point I am willing to try just about anything.



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9/08/2001
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I have a 97 Dakota as well and it chirps at idle. Annoying, GOD yes. I have changed the belt and many other things with no luck. I have learned to live with it. It seems really loud after it has rained but once I drive it and warm it up, it doesn't go away completely but does quiet down.

Tom
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97 Dakota v8(318)
01 Camaro SS



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9/10/2001
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Hey David and Tom.

I have a 98 CC, 5.2, 5spd and I had a chirping noise just like the one you describe. I had a bearing going out in my alternator. Went away when it was warmed up. Take off the belt and spin all of the things that you can. I could hear the chirp pretty easily this way on the alternator. Could also be the tensioner or the idler pully. Hope this helps,

Shawn



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3/11/2002
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I too have had an irritating problem with chirping on my 99 dak. Took it to the dealer with about 14,000 miles on it. They lubed a grease fitting on the "prop" shaft that comes off the driver's side of the front transfer case. (Sorry I don't know the correct terminology. I'm not a gear head.) It apparently is the "7th" lube point on 99 daks.
My noise occurred when I was coming to a stop, or starting out from a stop and was not present above 20 mph.

Well, with 26k on the clock, my noise is back with a vengance. You can actually hear it from outside the vehicle as its driving away. Took it back to the dealer. Asked him about the problem and service manager indicated it was a common problem. He said they tried replacing the shaft (new shafts don't have the zerk like 99's) on other daks, but that didn't work.

They claimed they lubed it up and the problem went away for them. When I picked it up, another guy at the service desk blamed my normal garage for the problem, claimed they weren't lubing my truck properly.

Well,I drove the truck home. 20 miles later and the squeak came back.
I looked underneath at the grease fitting and I couldn't tell the dealer had lubed anything. Don't know how they thought my garage didn't lube it properly.

I have a couple of months left on my warranty. Hope to get it fixed befor then.



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3/12/2002
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I too have the same problem and posted about this several times on this board. It is very annoying. With only little over 4k miles, its kind of depressing. I get it when I'm deacellerating near 20mph or when I'm at a complete stop and take off. Hmmm I think I'll mention having the dealer check the U-Joints.

First I thought it was the design of dodge's auto-trannies but if only a few people have this problem, it cant be.

Thanks



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3/12/2002
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I have had a chirping/'whistling' sound from under the hood of my 01 Quad Cab. Took it into dealer to fix at 13,500 K. They said the PS pump was making excessive noise, so they replaced it. Unfortunately, it still make the noise...sounds like a fan belt or bearing noise to me. At least I got a new PS pump! I'm taking the truck back to dealer next Wednesday....have them take another crack at it. I think the noise has actually escalated, so maybe they will hear it clearly. If they find anything, I will let everyone know!
Spacinjason
01 silver Quad Cab 4x4 Sport
4.7L, 5 sp., 3.55 LSD



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4/02/2002
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I should have said in my earlier posting that lubing the prop shaft grease fitting on my 99 DAK did make the noise go away the first time (at 14K miles.)
I took it back in again, after the second lube job failed the stop the noise (at 26K). The dealer lubed it up again and the noise is now gone.However, the dealer did agree to replace the prop shaft. Currently waiting for the part to arrive.



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4/03/2002
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First...In order to determine if its an engine noise or drivetrain noise turn the truck off with it in nuetral while you are going about 20: but remember no more power steering so be careful where you do it.

Mine was the drive train and I always heard it on its been a problem since I got it: Dealer fixed it about once a year but after the warrenty expired I found my own my solution!

Steambucket...your symptoms are exactly what mine were so I'm hoping this will help.

After replacing all my U-joints with after market greasable ones I realized that I just spent money on something I didn't need to but good long term insurance. The actual source of the noise isn't the U-joints though. On the front drive shaft coming out of the transfer case there is a what Dodge calls a double cross joint (two u-joints in a row). In between these U-Joints is weird ball and socket with a pin that goes into the ball...almost like your hipbone and socket. This is what squeaks because its not really protected from the environment the grease dries quickly and gets dirt in it. When you complain at the dealership they squirt some junk in there and its good for a 100 to 1000 miles or so. I took mine apart and cleaned it and greased it real good...no more noise. Mine doesn't have a zerk fitting for greasing this like some so you might just be able to grease it and not take it apart. I have no idea what the function of this ball and socket is but I'm guessing it helps keep the U-joints aligned without vibration or something to that affect. Anyways its a pretty easy fix if you have a little time.

Hope my years of frustration and final satisfaction of solving this problem helps others.

Joel
99 5.2 Sport CC 4x4



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4/03/2002
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If you ever think a noise or squeek may be from a fan belt just take any spray cleaner and spray on the belt while the engine is running. If it goes away it's the belt. I used to do this at the shop all the time.
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Mine makes a chirping noise towards the front passenger side of my truck. But I can make mine squeek when its off and I'm standing at the front and shake the truck, but it also squeeks on bumps and cruizing.

I've heard the control arms going bad on these trucks so maybe its that? It sounds like somethings loose anyways, I'm stumped.

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9/04/2002
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evening guys, I have a 96 v-6 4x4, and my truck has this very anoying chirpy, rattling noise at an idle too.i'm sure itsnot the same thing as yours, but it also sounds like a rattly fan belt/tensioner . mine does it all the time.took the serp belt completely off and the noise is still there.had my brother check for bulletins at the dealer he is a service advisor for, and they had a bulletin for an updated timing chain and timing chain tensioner. been doing this for about 40k now so eventually I'll change both out with the updated parts. might try and pull the belt clear off and see if the noise goes away. Hope this helps... just remember a bulletin is not a campain, the factory has just come out with a fix for a specific problem.



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10/10/2002
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I own a 99 Dodge Durango with the very same annoying high pitched chirp at idle. It is noisiest every morning and very loud when it is cold outside. Belts ok, brakes and rotors new, it is definitly from the engine. I hear it on decelaration at low speeds and it seems to quiet after it warms up. I was once at a stop light and heard it get louder only to notice it was a Ram running next to me. I now make a point to listen to other Dodge trucks when I am out and have heard many chirps in harmony. The truck runs ok, I just figure I have to live with it. I haven't located the problem, but I am wondering if it isn't just a Dodge truck problem.



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