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SLEEPER318
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5/30/2001
18:37:32

Subject: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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I'll just save you some time from having to post this Jeffster. I figured you post this since you compared your pro stock 4.7 to every magnum motor there is. hehehehh I luv this!



eddie_orlando
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5/30/2001
18:49:11

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dearest 318,
your spelling is horrible, will you quit posting these testimonials to your ignorance.
P.S. MY 2.5/5 speed probably could take a few 4.7's (maybe even you!), and I'm just being honest!!
-K&N Gen II FIPK (larger filter than regular FIPK)
-Flowmaster 40 series, no cat, duals
-Custom ported TB (KRC Performance)
-Robert Shaw 180 Thermostat
-Bosch +4's, Bosch wires, Borg Warner cap/rotor
-Mopar Performance Camshaft (KRC Performance)
Hugs and Kisses,
Ed




jeffster
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5/30/2001
19:00:38

RE: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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Why waste my time comparing a 4.7 to an engine that's even slower than a 5.2, if that's possible.



SLEEPER318
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5/30/2001
19:06:40

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Wow, with those mods you should blow past that pro stock 4.7 It should have a deep rumble with out those cats. Man, Did you gain some hp without those cats? I bet it dropped some major time in the 1/4 Well Jeffster, this has been fun, But It's getting kinda boring playing your kid game. I hope I run into one day. Who knows, maybe you'll have this supercharger you talk about. You guys have fun, An Eddie keep being stupid.



jeffster
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5/30/2001
19:52:59

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Super charger won't be anytime soon 318. Plan on having the truck awhile and will build on it. Don't worry I still think you can take Eddie even with a 318.



kennungesser
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5/30/2001
20:09:19

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2.5 beat a 4.7 ? Yup , thats easy!! All ya got to do is go down to your local Military Surplus Store , and get some rocket motors off a Sidewinder missle. Maybe , we could get these on a group buy ! yup , we can just strap those suckers right on top of the bed rails. As for stopping , we could ask Ed , he seems to live in a world where anything is possible!! I had a 1989 dak with a 2.5 , it would run forever , fast? Hell , my kid on his bike could beat it!

Kenneth l Nungesser

eddie_orlando
Dodge Dakota


5/30/2001
21:01:15

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I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! DON'T BE SOOOO MEAN TO ME!!!! I'M VERY EMOTIONAL
ED



kennungesser
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5/30/2001
21:23:23

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Keep watering that 2.5 ,Ed . It'll grow. And , I can't speak for the rest of the folks here , but aww shucks , I love you to , man. (can I have your beer?)

Kenneth l Nungesser

andrew
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5/30/2001
23:08:02

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Hey ed, stop attacking people. Second if your interested in performance, it was a stupid decision to get the 4 banger(sorry, I couldnt resist)



steve-o
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5/31/2001
00:38:54

RE: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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umm... did any of you read the post in the general board under "mini van" its a 12 second mini van with a turbocharged four banger, the same displacement as the magnum 2.5l, i havent seen any 12 second 4.7s yet (not saying it isnt possible)just a little fuel for the fire, and i do find it stupid to have all these arguements about engine size lately. just my 2 cents and im sure someone will have some stupid smart ass remark for me also... so in the meantime cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it, the dak is a great looking truck and should revolve around the engine size:-)



steve-o
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5/31/2001
00:41:42

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sorry i was so emotional in that last post that i couldnt concentrate after seeing the all the arguing between several dak owners, it should of said "the dak is a great looking truck and shouldnt revolve around the engine size:-)"
not should




eddie_orlando
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5/31/2001
02:49:46

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well spoken Steve-O, you and me should still get together since we are both in the central FL area call me.
Ed Henry
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eddie_orlando
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5/31/2001
02:50:38

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well spoken Steve-O, you and me should still get together since we are both in the central FL area call me.
Ed Henry
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407-313-8624



eddie_orlando
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5/31/2001
02:50:54

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well spoken Steve-O, you and me should still get together since we are both in the central FL area call me.
Ed Henry
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407-313-8624



jeffster
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5/31/2001
04:03:49

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I love it!! Keep watering that 2.5 and it will grow. Damn I almost fell out of my seat when I read that comment. Simple things please simple minds.

Yes a 2.5 can be made to send a mini van hurtling down the track to a 12 sec 1/4 mile. Give it time and we will have some 12 second 4.7's around here.If they were as tweaked as that vans engine they would probably run .09's I will post when mine is in the 12's. Would do it this week if I had the money but don't worry it will happen eventually.



Mikex70
Dodge Dakota


5/31/2001
07:24:12

RE: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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Why do you guys all ways argue about which engine is better 2.5, 3.9, 4.7, 5.2, 5.9? Well I think when the new 5.7 Hemi comes out it will blow every engine right out of the water. I bet you after it comes out you will have the same type of people with post like: 4.7 blows away 5.7! I mean come on people. I personaly own a 5.2l 4x4 cc I admit its not the fastest thing on the road but I have beatin quite a few ricers. I belive that the 4.7 is a better motor. Why would dodge but all the money into devloping it if it was almost identical to the 5.2.Just weight till 2003/4 I will be tearin the road up in my new 5.7 hemi Dakota R/T.



jeffster
Dodge Dakota


5/31/2001
19:49:03

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Count me in for a 5.7 Hemi too.



Wayne
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6/01/2001
07:54:59

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Eddie Orlando - on your 5/21 post at 21:01 post, QUIT YELLING.



eddie_orlando
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
10:07:08

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what dear sir may i ask are you talking about? that was almost 2 weeks ago, i'm thrilled you analyze my 2 week old postings! thanks for your support.
Ed



Mar
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
14:17:57

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All of the engines are good in the dakota line up. But lets remember this is a truck and the best motor to surve this truck is the 5.9. It is the most reliable engine in the industry as far as im conserned. I put over 250000miles on this 99 5.9 dodge and it just keeps going. I dont have it stalling because the idle was set to low (4.7) I dont worry what type of oil viscosity is in it because it will take all. Just think about it. When you talk about mopar quality this and the 5.2 comes to mind. Sure the 4.7 is faster but thats the newer technology. I think that chrysler is holding the 5.9 back it should be making 290 hp stock. The air box and exhaust suck on the 5.9 stock. There holding it back so 4.7 owners can say well mine may stall at lights but at least i can beat them in a drag race by a truck length (which is what 12 feet) Why dont you try again pulling a 5000 Lb trailer. Oh ya and eddie_orlando i still think a 4.7 would beat your 2.5 because it is a really quick engine. BUt when you want to measure what a better engine is speed is just a catagory in the survay. After more then 30 years of wearing the mopar name the 5.9 has a reputation of being reliable, Strong, and able to be pounded. the 4.7 isn't even out of pre-school yet.





BS Judge
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
15:46:48

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Mar,

Your previous message, dated 6/01/2001 at 14:17:57, is currently the BS leader on forums to date. Congratulations to you, your grammar, and more importantly; your BS. For this, you've earned yourself an old ass 5.9L push-rod Chrysler motor.

Sincerely,
BS Judge



Jay
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
16:43:56

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Yes all the engines are good. But don't knock on the 4.7L just for being new. Its only been in prodiction since '99 and it will take a few years to get all the bugs worked out. I'm sure that when the 5.9L was this new it had some minor problems as well. Its a matter of what you are going to use your truck for. Ifyou tow alot get the 5.9L. Other than that the 4.7L sould work for all around application and get better millage and put out cleaner exhaust than the 5.9L



Jay
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6/01/2001
16:46:26

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Oh yea... no way in hell the 5.9L should put out 290HP stock. If it could DC would do it, just think of the sales and marketing thy could do with numbers like that.



Mar
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
17:06:53

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Jay why would DC do it. The facts are that you have not seen what a modified 5.9 can do. The 5.9 is capable of making 290 hp just by opening up the exhaust and putting the air induction on it. I didn't mean to come of so hard on the 4.7 but it is still a new engine with problems like the stalling at the light and the oil sludge. But these are all things that will be fixed in time. But that means that right now currently the most reliable and powerfull engine in the line up is the 5.9 which gives me the right to say that in my opinion the 5.9 is THE BEST ENGINE. That doesn't mean the 4.7 sucks.

BS JUDGE you must have gone to university to obtain spelling as perfect as yours. Sorry but i didn't come hear to wright a book. And it just so happens that some of the fastest and most powerful engines in the world are pushrod engines so when i pass you in a viper or vette with a PUSHROD engine you can call me old and i wont care.



Jay
Dodge Dakota


6/01/2001
17:22:53

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I find it had to believe that by changing the intake and exhaust you can get 50HP. A supercharger only gets about +- 80 HP. And as far as I know, the ideling and oil problems were with the 1999/2000 models. So with in 2 years they got "most" of the bugs out of it. Not to bad.
Plus with the 4.7L you get the multi speed automatic. I think it help make up for the less HP and TQ of the 5.9L Either way they are sweet and you will be happy with either one :)




Mar
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6/01/2001
17:27:36

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Fair enough



aka BS Judge
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6/01/2001
19:15:01

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Mar,

I was just playin' with ya :-). I know we are all probably typing pretty fast and don't care if our spelling is perfect on these forums. I don't doubt the push-rod motors are fast and great. I personally have the 4.7 in my QuadCab and the 4Liter Ho in my Wrangler. Push-rod or not, I sure miss my 5.2L small-block 318 in my old '76 Dodge Custom 100. Some say it's just something to get you from point A to point B. But with as much as we rely on our vehicles, I think that with any vehicle with any motor, you can always care for it enough to call it your 'baby'.

Jeff

P.S. FYI...so far I've had my PCM upgraded to prevent low-idling and intermittent stalling, and the clockspring was replaced due to it twisting my Cruise Control to non-functional and my air bag light to become brightly engaged :)! Other than that, pretty strong little sucker!








Jeffster
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6/01/2001
19:23:03

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My 4.7 has never stalled. It runs a hell of a lot better than my 5.2 does. The 5.2 would ping like crazy if you steped on it and I would always have to down shift. Mabye some chages have been made to the 2001 engine? Further more the 5.9 isn't the only truck that's tuned down. All the Magnum engines are.



4.7dak
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3/01/2002
15:42:18

RE: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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hey...I thought this was supossed to be a 4.7 vs 2.5 thread? Not a 4.7 vs 5.2/5.9 thread.



4.7dak
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3/01/2002
15:47:37

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nah, I agree with Mikex70. The engine size debate is getting old




SLEEPER318
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3/01/2002
17:48:49

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you know it's pretty sad your bring up this old stuff. You must have nothing better to do.



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