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Domenic
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3/09/2003
22:25:41
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No 12 second 4.7 Dakotas huh, thats too bad. I have a 12 second 4.7 but its not in a dakota. Its in a 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland.
265 bhp stock and 330 ft. lbs. stock. Kenne Bell Twin Screw supercharged @ 12 psi, and a few other things.
2003 Grand Cherokee Overland KB supercharged
2002 Corvette ZO6 (SOLD)
2002 Camaro Z28
2002 Ford SVT Lightning (SOLD)
2000 Dakota R/T (SOLD)
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domenic
Dodge Dakota
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3/09/2003
22:32:00
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"And it just so happens that some of the fastest and most powerful engines in the world are pushrod engines so when i pass you in a viper or vette with a PUSHROD engine you can call me old and i wont care"
And when I pass YOU in a Ferrari which is a Over-head cam motor I will call you old fashion. But I am a bigger pushrod fan.
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The Dude
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3/10/2003
00:03:17
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Domenic, I would put my money on the Viper if it came down to a Viper vs. Ferrari shootout.
And overhead cams predate pushrods.
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Joe
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3/10/2003
00:04:04
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Where the hell is Jeffster anyway?
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xplikt
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3/10/2003
10:40:59
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steve-o, that 2.5L engine in that van is the engine designed by Willem Weertman, the one in the late 80s Daytonas. The Dakota's 2.5L is an AMC motor. It produced more power block to block, but those non-AMC 2.5s can take a hell of a lot of boost -- that's where they have the advantage over even V8s. Daytona and Charger Shelbys anyone?
Stop confusing the two.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis (bars, springs, shocks) and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
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xplikt
GenIII
3/10/2003
10:44:22
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I should correct myself. The 2.2 and 2.5 litre engines were in the Dakotas, but that was late 80s and very early 90s. I doubt many of you have one of those.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis (bars, springs, shocks) and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
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Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2003
15:40:27
| RE: Intresting 4.7 vs 2.5
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4.7 vs 2.5,
It'd be close, but I think the 4.7 would take it!
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Domenic
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3/11/2003
01:49:05
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Money on Viper vs. Ferrari??????hmmm
What about the Enzio Ferrari, or the F50 or F40
all of them cars run well into the 11s for the 1/4 mile.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
3/11/2003
01:54:31
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i say F the ferrari, and F the dodge! give me a 2002 twin turbo porche! it doesent even have to be the GT-2, ill just settle for a "regular" one
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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The Dude
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
03:21:08
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http://www.jeffhelms.com/images/events/johnmsrt10.wmv
Here's the timeslip (what it looks like that is):
60ft-------1.9748 (stock tires)
330 ft-----5.1748
1/8 mph--94.75
1/8 ET-----7.7805
1000 ft----9.993
1/4 mph---122.95
1/4 ET-----11.8657
2003 Viper Stock (yes, even the tires!). Yes please.
And depending on where you look, the F50 is in the low 12s, the F40 is in the upper 11s and I have yet to see a 1/4 time for the Enzo anywhere. Looks like it'll come down to the driver. I'd take the Viper.
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xplikt
GenIII
3/11/2003
13:51:07
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I'd also take the Viper. Who won the last 24-hour anyway ??
That's right.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis (bars, springs, shocks) and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
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Demon Dakota
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3/11/2003
16:49:59
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A Ferrari running gear isn't made to take that kind of abuse, well, not really (1/4 racing). Look at the diameter of the driveshaft, the rear end size, and so on. It's all wayyyy smaller than the Viper's.
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
17:33:21
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http://www.house-of-power.com/images/albert.mpg
Hmmmm.......
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Zach
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3/11/2003
17:56:17
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I would take the viper over the ferrari, and with the money I saved get a performance upgrade from John Hennessey. Running mid 9's sounds good to me, especially in a street legal car.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
3/11/2003
19:12:52
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Zach, actually you will be $150,000+ in the hole with nothing to show for it. john hennessey is a theif!!!
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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The Dude
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2003
23:18:33
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I've heard Hennessey's cars are practically undrivable. I don't know about you guys, but being able to break the rear tires loose by mashing the gas pedel...WHILE DOING 80 ON THE HIGHWAY does not really appeal to me. Give me something that can actually transmit power to the pavement and not burn it all up into unusable energy. Those twin-turbo Vipers with 1000+ HP are just mechanical pissing contests IMHO. The Viper in its stock form would be more than enough car for most of us. Then again, what do I know?
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kota on 20s
GenIII
3/11/2003
23:23:10
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well, you got the undrivable part right...he takes your cash and car, then avoids the owner like the plague
~Eric
Single cam, non-VTEC
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