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Alan
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8/31/2005
18:40:37

Subject: No headlights/parking lights/ backup
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2002 Dodge Dakota Quad cab.

A few months ago when you first turned on the headlights it would take 5 seconds or so for them to actually come on. Recently that time lag jumped to about 3 minutes, and now they won't come on at all.

There are some oddities to all this.

If the high beam switch on the column happens to be on high beams and you flip the switch on quickly the headlights will come on, but not the parking lights. Once in this state you can't change from high to low (stays on high with the high beam indicatior on the dash on). Also turning from lights to just parking lights does not turn the high beams off. You have to turn it completely off.

Flashers and directionals work normally.

Backup lights do not work at all.

Clicking the high beam switch with the lights off does flash the high beams as it normally would.

I've checked fuses, however there really isn't a fuse for "headlights" in either the engine compartment fuse box or the fuse box in the drivers side panel.

I know there has to be a relay somewhere but have been unable to locate it.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
Alan



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9/01/2005
01:37:48

RE: No headlights/parking lights/ backup
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I almost have to believe that it is a relay or electrical short.The first thing that I would try is the relay. Go to your local auto parts store and buy a book for your vehicle. The books usually have some kind of electrical diagrams for the electronic parts of your vehicle. You might be able to find the location and name of the relay and then you would be able to replace it.
Hope this helps.....



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9/02/2005
09:08:37

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The headlights are actually controlled inside the CTM, (body control module basically). If your problem is in just head/parking light circut I would suspect headlight switch first, if it involves reverse lamps...I might suspect ground problem. A wiring diagram would help greatly. Find out if the headlights, parking lights and reverse light share something in common. (power, ground, splice, whatever?) and then check that out. It could be a lot of things.



Alan
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9/08/2005
16:03:04

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Just an update to maybe help someone else. I finally got a wiring diagram and went out and chased the problem around. It appears the Central Timing Module (CTM) is bad. Took me forever to actually find it, it is located behind the kick panel on the drivers side.

I could buy a new one or go get one at a junk yard but unfortunately the CTM also contains the wireless entry receiver. If I change it I won't have a fob that works to program a new one. So looks like a dealer visit is my only option.





Unico
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1/15/2013
17:13:08

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I have a 2001 dodge dakota quad cab 4.7L. headlights, interiorlights, powerlocks and dashboard lights stopped working. I took off the battery and put it back to restart the computer and its started working but it seems it's only a temporary fix? can anyone help with some ideas on what the problem is?



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12/31/2017
17:13:43

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I have the same problem...headlights, turn signals, interior lights, dash lights not working.
Radio, heater fan work. Temp outside last night was 38F. This never happened before. What am I looking for?



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