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RTD2
Dodge Dakota
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4/17/2002
14:47:08
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Okay I've got a tough one. Ive got a 2002 RT, what would be better for cost, Ladder Bars or Slappers. And which would be best for performance. Any info would be great.
Silver 2002 5.9 R/T
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Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota
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4/17/2002
17:07:56
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$38 for slapper bars? (chrome) Hard to beat that cost wise.
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DEREK J.
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4/17/2002
18:03:36
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where are you going? i paid $30.00 plus tax for mine at autozone. lakewood chrome universal traction bars.
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QuickRacing
Dodge Dakota
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4/17/2002
18:59:18
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Will these apply to a GenII Dakota? I'm in the process of dropping a 360 in my 96 Dakota... And I would imagine that I will have traction problems... What's the best for the money? Thanks "QuickRacing"
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Tom Slick
GenII
4/18/2002
11:20:25
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Yes, they will work on a Gen II.
Later!
Tom "Slick"
96 Dakota Sport 5.2 RC SB
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Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota
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4/18/2002
14:35:08
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I got mine through Summit, none of the places around had them. Only a couple even knew what the hell I was talking about.
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fred
Dodge Dakota
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10/01/2002
22:18:47
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cal-trac bars work real well but they are $320 bucks.
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DaveR
GenII
10/01/2002
22:47:10
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The comp engineering bars are comperable to the cal-tracs in proformance and price. Work on gen II as well.
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dragrdan
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2002
00:23:12
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for a leaf sprung vehicle(like our daks) slapper bars are about the cheapest traction helper there is. however, you must get the right ones and set them up correctly. the rubber snubber must hit the leaf spring right under the front eye bolt. most of the universals dont go that far forward.
slapper bars are designed to prevent wheel hop and improve traction. wheel hop = when you stomp the gas, the nose of the differential tries to rise(spin opposite of the tires), this bends the leaf spring into an "s" shape, then the tires lose traction, and the spring POPS back into its normal shape. if the slapper bars hit the leaf spring behind the eye bolt, when you nail it, it will bend the spring into an "s" shape. it shouldn't wheel hop, but you wont get the extra traction assist, and is VERY hard on the springs.
also the snubber should be set to about 1-1 1/2" below the leaf spring for best results and ride
sorry about the long post
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alex
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10/02/2002
08:40:57
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I had a set of slappers welded up so that the snubber hits the spring eye, but I have the snubber at about 1/2" below the eye. 1.5" is too big a gap.
With a 3.55 rear end and a 26" DOT slick, I have hit a 1.98 60' time at the track (so far).
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2002
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I have both spring clamps and slapper bars on my dak. Did the clamps first and noticed a nice improvemnet. Well worth the less than $10...
Chris
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/03/2002
14:18:42
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I'm using the Lakewood HD Universal bars. They're 2" longer than the std. ones. The extra length helps to get the snubber right behind the front eye. Best price I found was at lonestarperformance.com for $59.95.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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sideburns777
Dodge Dakota
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10/03/2002
16:06:18
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like lab rat said, go with the heavy duty lakewoods, not the universal-as they won't really help you at all. i think i paid about $60 for mine also.
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IntenseDak39
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10/03/2002
16:27:17
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Well since no one has posted anything about ladder bars i guess i will...
i have ladder bars on my truck (no leaf springs at all) and i would say that it is the best solution for wheel hop. With it i have coilover springs (150# rated) and drag shocks. I gets all the power to the ground but REALLY sucks when it is the least bit wet outside. The only downside is the $300 price tag on just the ladder bars and the fact that they have to be welded in. If i had leaf springs i think i would go with the Cal Trac bars... i saw one of the TNN tv shows put a set on a old mustang and looked really good and promising.
--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/03/2002
16:58:14
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Ladder bars are the real way to go BUT, there is the pricetag issue as you mentioned as well as the thought of welding on the frame rails of a four month old truck. Couldn't bring myself to do it.
Also, keep your eyes open for the Comp Engineering Slide-A-Link. They told me last week about six months before release on the one for the 02s.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Dr Q
DakotaEnthusiast
10/04/2002
16:24:55
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I've had the "chrome" bars on for over a year now. They aren't chrome anymore-brown. But the still work great and my springs haven't bent a bit I had to buy some 3" buumpers fron the zone for 3.00 and shaved down the tips to get 3/4" clearance.
So for 28.00 bucks for the bars and 3.00 for the bumpers 31.00 isn't a bad investment.
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Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92 pegleg
0-60 @ 6.20sec.
1/4mi @ 14.75@97.1
Home Brew Airbox
K&N Drop In
Lakewood Traction Bars
Dremel TB Port and Polish
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/04/2002
16:50:48
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Hey Doc,
Any more info on the 3" bumpers you bought, such as part number or section you found them in? I want to get mine a little closer to the spring and those sound like just the ticket.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Dr Q
DakotaEnthusiast
10/04/2002
19:51:04
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First I tried builing up the base with washers, Jb's Cold weld-didn't work. So I find these SOS arm bushings in the emergency repair section. Worked Great!
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Dr.Q
'01 Patriot Blue SLT RC 4.7 5sp 3.92 pegleg
0-60 @ 6.20sec.
1/4mi @ 14.75@97.1
Home Brew Airbox
K&N Drop In
Lakewood Traction Bars
Dremel TB Port and Polish
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/04/2002
19:58:37
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Thanks, Doc.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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DMSDAK
Dodge Dakota
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10/04/2002
22:50:54
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Hey guys I also have the Heavy Duty Lakewoods on mine and they really help with the wheel hop I had before with my 3.92 peg leg, it still dosent cure tire spin though, need some slicks for that next :-)... but if you want to see what they look like installed go to my site, its not done yet but it does have some pics on it :
http://www.sporttruckhistory.freehomepage.com/
I bought mine at the local Advance Auto Parts for like 80 some odd dollars? They were easy to install I had to shim them though and add longer bolts to get the to be parallel with the ground and the springs and not angled up or down any at all. You can see where they bump the springs in that pic its just behind the spring eye! Good modding!
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2001 Dodge Dakota FR RC
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230HP 4.7L SOHC V8
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3.92 Rear Peg-Leg
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w/3'' slash cut chrome tip
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Barclay
Dodge Dakota
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2/23/2004
20:53:15
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cool site ,
just got a '94 club cab 5.2
had to put in a posi & 3.55
stage 3 shift kit / k&n
flowtech headers . flowmaster 2 1/2"
hi flow cat
wheel hop wow !
what part # is the heavy duty lakewood trac bar set ?
I'm in canada so i'll need to find them here
thanks .
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