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Jon
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10/13/2001
19:19:11

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I had to get your attention, but heres my question.


Well I have a 2000 4.7 and on Monday I am upgrading to a 2002 4.7. Both white 4x4 CC w/ 5spd 3.92. Anyway since it seems most of these exhausts lose power, why buy one? I would love to spend money on an exhaust but which to buy. IF SOMEONE HAS PROOF OF A POWER GAIN W/ A CATBACK EXHAUST PLEASE TELL ME. ANY POWER GAIN TOP OR LOW END, LOW PREFERABLY. THANK YOU. I love this website and cherish every piece of advice given



Hawkeye
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10/13/2001
19:41:20

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I forgot to tell you that we also have a single in single out 40 series on our 99 5.2 4x4 Durango with the same results.


'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
http://johnammons.tripod.com/home.html

doch80
Dodge Dakota
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10/13/2001
21:40:20

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Hawkeye,

On your durango, how loud is the exhaust? I have the same as that but I thought it would be much louder then it is. Mine is a 3" out, is that why it isn't that loud? It's really deep but not that earpiercing loudness I thought I'd have.

doch80



Art
Dodge Dakota


10/14/2001
00:39:31

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MBRP rear dual split nuff said,here is a link that has alot of sounds,www.blackdakrt.com has alot of good exhaust mpegs and smokey burnouts,later



jUSTIN
Dodge Dakota
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10/14/2001
00:43:48

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Hey Jon,
I have a 2001 4.7 auto, and I had a 40 series muffler installed, it is single in, dual out, with a 3" tip. I kept the original 2 1/2" exhaust pipes, so not to loose back-pressure. But if you are wanting to know how it sounds, it sounds somewhat in a way like a mustang (kind of), but anyways it sounds good, and yes do expect to loose a little low end, at least until you're PCM re-learns the new modification, and then you will gain it back, with a little more, at least I did. Word for thought- dont remove you're cat's or expect to loose some low end, and not gaining it back.
Justin
01;4.7;auto;3:55;QC
flowmaster;intake;IAT adjuster;....and soon 70mm F&B billet throttle body from Bernds



Hawkeye
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10/14/2001
08:34:29

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I would like to know where everyone is getting that they are loosing low end with their new exhaust. In 11 years on aftermarket mufflers, mainly flowmasters, I have never lost anything. If anything I gained a little. I have a flowmaster on my truck, my Durango, and my friend has it on his truck. None of them have lost anything. If they did anything they gained a little. All of them have a K&N filter in. I am wondering if a lot of people are just hearing the exhaust more and not into the pedal as much as before when it was quieter, making it seem like its not as different than before and like I said in some cases a little better. Just curious as to why so many feel that they are loosing power.
The 40 on the Durango isnt really "loud" but it does have a nice rumble. Its about the same as my truck.

'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
33x12.50 Pro Comp X-T's
http://johnammons.tripod.com/home.html

SMITTY2
Dodge Dakota
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10/14/2001
10:31:21

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I don't think it is the muffler that is causing the loss, but the entire replacement from the cat back with larger pipes that cause the loss. That is where mine came from anyway. Sounds good though. I have the dynomax superturbo.



Demon-Xanth
Dodge Dakota


10/14/2001
18:40:49

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I'm looking at getting a new exhaust for the sole purpose of making it sound better. From what I've heard getting a freer flowing exhaust won't help until you get a freer flowing top end, at which point the exhaust will help.

I'm currently leaning towards a 2.5" flowmaster 40 series muffler with a larger than stock tip.

'02 4.7 5-speed, CC, 3.55LS



Mar
Dodge Dakota


10/15/2001
21:30:27

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I beat them all the time. Only when there going the other way.



Nirami
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10/17/2001
09:48:39

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I don't know about all of you guys, but I want that sound generating from the engine, not the exhaust. Making your truck sound mean just from an exhaust is a simple riceboy manuever. You don't gain respect; only loose it. Because I sure do loose all respect for those Chebbies that are always rolling by with a loud ass exhaust and nothing to back that sound up.

Just my 2 cents.

- Mikel



DakUSA
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10/18/2001
08:45:45

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www.dakotausa.com/exhaust.MPG here is a 2000 4.7 with a deltaflow flowmaster 40 1 in 2 out with 2.5" pipes and 3"tips. and BTW my motor was louder than my exhaust

Chris Lambert
President Dakota USA
00 CC 4.7 5speed

dak
Dodge Dakota


10/18/2001
23:24:51

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I made a home brew z-tube,My 4.7 sounds like a V8 now,It really sounds good when you open it up, good luck with your decisions



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