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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
18:06:43
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New rims will be here soon. I'm buyin the 16x8's Bill has for sale. So what kind of traction should I put on there for good street launches. Right now i've got 15x7's with 235/60-15's or somethin like that. I've got the 4.7L and 3.92's and i'm so damn tired of not being able to hook up right. Suggestions?
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CW
GenIII
 
12/08/2001
18:16:23
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275/60R16 scorpions will make that bad boy hook. Think I will go to that size when I wear out the 255/65R16 stockers. Should only take 6-7k miles.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/08/2001
18:23:17
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Are they very expensive? What about the front end? Was adjusting your TPS hard to do by the way? I just don't want to screw anything up.
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CW
GenIII
12/08/2001
18:49:59
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Yes they are pretty pricey. www.tirerack.com has them.
The TPS was a simple mod. Instructions are at www.speedtweaks.net in the tips and tricks section. I really didn't see much gain but it helped the low end throttle response of the 4.7.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
00:21:33
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$134 a tire. Damn. Who goes 149 mph anyhow. I just want the traction. I might have to investigate this one quite a bit. How did the 255/65-16's hook up for you? Seems like if I combined those tires(255/65-16's) with an activesuspension rear end i'd be able to grip pretty well. You've got pretty much the same truck I do except for the regular cab and the sport model.
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CW
GenIII
12/09/2001
10:53:40
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I can't launch hard in first but they grip pretty well. I will go up a size or two the next replacement to help out. I want to try the roadmaster active suspention supposed to help with traction and wheel hop. The 16s grip a little better than the 15s as well. The stock tire rubber compound sucks as well. You will probably be happy with a good replacment 255.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
11:15:50
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Sounds good. 255's are considerably cheaper than the 275's. I'm probably going to invest in the active suspension as well. Heard they took .2 seconds off of an R/T's quarter mile time. Do you even use 1st gear that much? I very rarely use it because of how low it is. I usually just start out in second. That works fine.
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CW
GenIII
12/09/2001
11:37:13
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The only time I use first is when I think someone needs to be dusted or just for smiles. Pretty much always use second to start in.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/09/2001
11:45:46
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You racing people are funny .. $134 per tire.. LOL!! $171 for some Good Year Mud Tires.. and those aren't mounted :( and that's a D rated tire.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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CW
GenIII
12/09/2001
12:01:30
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I just hate buying expencive tires because I only get 15,000 miles out of a set if I am lucky.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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Knobbyman
GenIII
12/09/2001
12:44:41
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:( yep .. so do we .. sometimes even less if you hit a rock sideways and it gets the sidewall.
But I know we could both yell & scream .. *My tires are more expensive then yours are* Just a observation I would have thought yours would be less expensive anyway. The lugs aren't as big.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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CW
GenIII
12/09/2001
13:21:43
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Mine are definataly less expencive. I have 31s on my old 4x4. I bought the cheapest ones I could find and they were not any less than descent tires for my 2wd. I don't envy the 4x4 crowd for that.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/09/2001
16:32:56
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I used to own a nissan 4x4 and always payed an arm and leg for tires. I hated it it. Loved the truck though. With 4x2's its the speed rating on the tire that seems to get you. Like with those scorpians. A VR rating. Sure you might be able to go 149mph on the tires but why the heck would I want to go that fast anyhow. I just want to get off of the line quicker. I also doubt my Dak will ever run 1/4 mile times worthy of 149mph tires.
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ZenDak
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
10:30:54
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Hey CW, Do you have the 275/60R16 all around or just in back? I've got the stock wheels and rims 16's with the goodyear 255's.
I only need new back tires,,,wider, preferably. I'm not good with tire sizes,,,so will 275/60's be taller or shorter sidewalls? Will the truck's ride height change?
Thanks
andy
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
10:57:42
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Shorter. They'll be more of a low profile looking tire. They are VR rated tires so the shorter the side wall the better
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CW
GenIII
12/10/2001
14:48:27
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They are the same hight as the 255 because they are a little wider. I haven't put them on yet I will wear out the stockers first.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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CThomp
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
14:51:41
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So they aren't even a little shorter? Damn and I thought I knew what I was talking about. I'm such an ameteur
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
16:11:30
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CW's right the 275/60 tire is the same height as the 255/65, so it will keep the gears the same and the speedometer...
are there any other good tires around this size?
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
16:15:34
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Goodyear GTII 285/60-16 $89 each
little taller than stock, but not by much
BF Goodrich also has a 285/60-16 sport truck tire, but its $150 each
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ZenDak
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
17:09:35
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Brian024.7, Where did you find the Goodyear GTII's for $89 each?
In inches how wide is this tire?
I like the price, and at least I'd be keeping them goodyear's all around too.
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Bill Moore
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
17:23:44
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285 is in mm, or millimeters, which is 11.22 inches wide.
60 is sidewall height, or 60% of width, .6x11.22 is 6.73 ".
2 x 6.73 is 13.46 plus 16" for rim and you get 29.46" total tire height.
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Bill Moore
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
17:34:26
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http://twistedbits.net/~jon/WWW/DAKOTA/dakota.html
This is a link to a tire size comparison chart, it is part of the DML, or Dokota Mailing list.
Another is www.tolan-hoechst.com/cars/tirecalc.htm
Note that the end of the second link is .htm, not .html
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Aaro
Dodge Dakota
12/10/2001
20:41:03
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CW is right the "scorpion zero's" hook up great , if the truck was a stock V8 with a auto I don't think I could spin them at all , with lots of mods I have to try to spin them.When you do spin them they don't squeal (good around cops). The tires handle better and don't roll over on the sidewalls in a turn like car tires do . I put on 255/55/16 they lower it a bit and the spedo is off 5% or something like that , about 3mph at 60. The change makes effective the gear ratio lower.
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CW
GenIII
12/10/2001
20:53:27
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The 285 sounds like a interesting size. I will have to look into that. I want to keep the front and rear tires the same hight because I have 4 wheel ABS and it doesn't like to see a different speed from the front ot rear tires.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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ZenDak
Dodge Dakota
12/12/2001
15:29:23
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Hey CW,,,,
What would happen if I kept the stockers up front, and replaced my rear tires with 285/60',,,ABS wise? You mentioned something might happen with larger tires in the back,,,obviously turning at diffent speed than front.
I did this on a '98 F150 I had w/ABS on the back only, and nothing went wrong.
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/12/2001
16:09:44
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if you only have ABS in the back it won't matter. If you have 4-wheel abs I can see where it would be a problem. My solution would be a 265/65-16 tire up front. This would be within 1/10 of an inch as far as height goes.
I found the goodyear's at tirerack.com
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Brian024.7
Dodge Dakota
12/12/2001
16:10:38
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btw: is the speedometer based on the front tires or the rear tires?
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CW
GenIII
12/12/2001
20:26:08
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Speedo is based on the rear tires.
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD sport plus
Ported throttle body, IAT adjuster, flowmaster cat back, adjusted TPS from .51v to .76v, 4" cold air intake
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Curtis
Dodge Dakota
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2/27/2003
18:05:49
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I am about to put a 3" body lift on my 4x4. I am putting on 33x12.5's after the lift is completed, but I don't know what tire to use. I really want Bridgestone Dueler MT's because of the white lettering but I don't know if I should get BFG MT's (everybody uses them)? I am after looks and life? Please send pics if possible to nascarwideopen@aol.com. Thanks.
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Demon Dakota
DakotaEnthusiast
2/27/2003
20:47:07
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275/60-16's Toyo Proxes ST here. I have had 0 problems with them. There wasn't enough performance difference in the two to make a difinitive Pirelli choice...at least for me.
K&N Drop in AF (CAI during summer months)
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
14.52@94.2 MPH at Silver Dollar Raceway
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topcrow
Dodge Dakota
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2/28/2003
00:28:09
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I got an awesome deal from my local Big10 on Kumho ECSTA STX 255/50/17-he matched tirerack.com and I didn't pay for any shipping on them or the rims. Excellent tires $95~
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