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9/22/2002
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I have a '98 regular cab dakota, and I just recently purchased a '97 rolled/wrecked viper from my neighbor down the street. My question is, what will I have to do to my truck for the conversion? The motor and 6-speed are in decent shape, minus a few odd and ends that were broke from the wreck, also will the viper wheels work on a dakota? Will I need a different rearend,chassis modifications, frontend work,etc? Any help is appreciated for I am a Viper owner right now, '00 Viper GTS. I acquired the dakota from my son when he bought a new '02 quad cab. I'm trying for a magazine layout,maybe? But definitely a Lightning KILLER!!! Thanks




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9/22/2002
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Just want to keep up with the install



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9/22/2002
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For the conversion you'll need custom motor mounts, a new trans crossmember and/or mounts. I do know if you will need a custom oil pan to fit without interference. A custom driveshaft, exhaust and the trans tunnel massaged to fit the larger t-56. You'll have to check for radiator and firewall clearance.

For the wheels, I don't think the bolt patterns are the same. If they were, the rear tires probably have way too much back spacing and would hit the inner fenderwell. The best advice would be to take measurements from a straight edge on the hub to the closest inner fender part and outer fender lip. Then compare that to the measurement of the rims to find out any clearance problems. If they wouldn't hit on the inner side then you could modify any other problems to make them fit. You could have the rear fenders rounded out for outer clearance and get new axles with the viper bolt pattern. I would get new axles anyway for durability. As for the fronts, I have hear of guys running 275's on the fronts, but you'll still have to check backspacing and bolt pattern.



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9/22/2002
12:58:20

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This Mopar Performance Book might be of some help

Keep us updated on this project !!!!!!!!!!!!


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P5007220AB Viper Crate Motor Installation Manual - 2nd Edition





Dan

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9/22/2002
18:05:01

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As for the wheels the bolt pattern is the same. The fronts will fit, but the rears are too wide and have too much backspacing. You could buy another set of fronts.

This conversion has been done before:



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9/23/2002
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How much would this install cost?? Does anyone know??



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9/23/2002
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jim,
i checked into this conversion from the dealer and they quoted me $16,000 just for the engine and another $6,000 for the 6speed tranny. plus, who knows how much for all the modifications and fabricating to get it to fit. but if i had the $$$ i sure the hell would have done it by now. but im only 19 with minimum wage pay check



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9/23/2002
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I have seen a crate motor for about $13,000 and a rebuilt t-56 for $1850. The other parts and shipping will run you another $3500. The labor alone will run over a couple grand. It will probably cost more than a new rc r/t.



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9/24/2002
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But this thing will out-scream a RC R/T all day long...

Chris



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9/24/2002
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what is an rc r/t



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9/24/2002
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RC = Regular Cab
CC = Club Cab
QC = Quad Cab

Chris



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9/24/2002
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Just a note, kids..... that blue Dakota up top is a figment of PhotoShop. Look at the size (and clarity) of the factory battery versus the size (and fuzziness) of the alleged V-10 that's right beside it.

You certainly can drop in ANY motor into ANY car, but it's a matter of how big your check book is. I think that the V-10/Dakota swap is going to be costly.



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9/24/2002
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Not to butt in, but might I suggest a different rear axle. Something tells me that if you can get the tires to hook up, the first time you get really get on it, your rear end is going to be junk. That axle just simply isn't ready for what you're going to throw at it.



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9/24/2002
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Pretty cool if you can make the truck a sleeper with that V10 in it...lol Then add twin blowers and really have fun...if you got the money then why not...huh!!! If you already got a GTS I would just turbo that and be happy, but thats just me...lol



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9/24/2002
14:29:19

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Good Luck with the install... and keep us updated... The rear rims should work (they are 1/4" from hitting the fender well) and you can get a "spacer" to give you enough room -- of course... they will be REALLY wide!








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9/24/2002
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i thought the rear wheels wouldn't fit cause too wide and they hit the leafs but just buy two fronts and you'll be ok or hell ....trash the leaf spring setup and go with some huge ass coils or something to give you better traction....haha and goodluck with the rearend....8 1/4 or 9 1/4 will be a ticking time bomb.



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9/27/2002
22:42:27

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i would suggest that if you want to spend this much money on building it anyways, install the IRS off the viper, you're going to have to have the rear fenders widened, but it will be worth it in the end. it can be done and it has been done, but its going to take time and money. have fun.



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9/28/2002
06:43:07

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Hell why not just figure out a way to put the Dakota body on the viper "frame".... It would go like a bat outta hell that's for sure...

Chris



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9/29/2002
01:12:37

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Thanks for all of your help.I will keep you all updated with the conversion.So far I checked out the wheels and they do rub in the rear(against the leafs) also they seem to rub upfront a little bit at full lock.As for the axle, could I use the viper axle for the rear,or use a dana, or gm corporate axle.So far I'm laying everything out and just making sure I have everything I need for the swap. So any more ideas would be great.I'm also looking for a name for the truck.Want something different so all ideas would be in consideration.I just cant wait to pull up to a stoplight next to a "RICER" and listen to them rev up their fart pipes,then the light turns and ,traction pending hahahahaha, just smoke the sh*t out of them.You know, I might just leave the truck completely stock on the outside, except the faint sight of "VIPER RT/10" on the cowl hood.Anyway I'm starting to ramble on about my fantasy, but fixin to turn reality.Keep ya'll updated.



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9/29/2002
01:17:03

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I'll be gone for a few weeks on buisiness but I will try to keep up with the swap.Thanks for your patience.



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9/30/2002
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Be careful with some imports however. I pulled up to a rx-7 yesterday and it blew my doors off.



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