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nak
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7/11/2002
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Ok, would a 2002 4.7 dak club cab beat a 2002 chevy silverado regular cab 4.8 off the line? I know these truck are in diferent classes but I'm just curious. Has anyone done this race? In honest opinion, which engine is better? Would a 4.7 keep up with a silverado or better yet blow it away considering the class differences.
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The Bro
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7/11/2002
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The 4.7 would make that peice (Silverado) look like a V6 Dak :P
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Mr.Sleepy
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02:46:52
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Hell! My 4.7 killed a 5.3 Sierra that had pipes and a K&N on it....
Another one bites the dust!
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yates-in-de1
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So far there is only 2 production trucks that worry me linin' up. 1 hasn't hit the market yet and the other is the Ford Lightnin'. (the first one is the SRT-10) The R/T is strong but a lead sled. My Stock 4.7 Sport is as quick as a Stock R/T, but my 4.7 isn't stock and neither is most R/T's. Keeps things interesting.
Lynn
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Big59er
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I agree with ya on that yates. Wouldnt be any fun in this game if things were all stock.
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routesixtysixer
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Hmmmm. My 97 5.2 CC is a slug compared to the 00 Sierra 5.3 I had. Guess your 4.7's are much more powerful than my 5.2.
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Danny Price
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7/11/2002
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Quote: The R/T is strong but a lead sled. My Stock 4.7 Sport is as quick as a Stock R/T, but my 4.7 isn't stock and neither is most R/T's. Keeps things interesting.
Lynn :End Quote:
heh
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Canucker
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Well I raced a buddy of mine with an older (well '88 or 90) Silverado shortbox 350 with headers and exhaust and k&N and other sh!te ... I blew him away like he was standing still ... We were both quite surprised.
Another buddy of mine has an '88 monte 305 and that was even more of a blow out!
My newest goal is my friend with a WRX ... I wont beat him stock, but soon I will ... soon!
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Clevite 77
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7/11/2002
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2002 Z71
ext cab
5.3L V8
3.73's
4spd auto
completely stock
vs
2002 Dakota CC 4x4 Sport plus
4.7L V8
3.92's w/LSD
4spd auto
Mods
h-brew pvc pipe intake w/K&N cone air filter
I have also removed the 3rd cat and replaced the OE muffler with a 2 chamber flomaster that's ran out to duals.
who's going to win 0-70
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Demon Dakota
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7/11/2002
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Z-71 is a 4x4, so you've definitely got the power to weight ratio on him. A halfway decent way to estimate your chances is to take the truck weight and divide it by the torque your motor puts out (just use crank HP/TQ). Whoever has the lower number usually ends up ahead off the line.
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D
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21:57:58
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I got smoked by like 4 tenths in the 1/8th. I ran
a 10.3 (which is pretty bad, considering I
usually run 9.8's consistent) the PaceCar
regular cab silverado 5.3 I ran against had
headers exhaust, and cams I believe. It was
dropped, and on 20's, he beat me out of the
hole (I broke the tires loose) and kept pulling.
If my truck was geared with 3.92's I would
have had him easily, but no dice that
night...I'm sure I will see him again though,
hopefully after I get my sh!te installed.
D
01/4.7/homebrewcoldair/ported-polishedTB/
Dynomax3"catback-dumped/180stat/NoClutch
Fan/DJMdrop3-6
HO cams, manifold, LS + 3.92's are still
collecting dust.
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Big59er
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Iv never really seen any Chevy/GMC Full size pickups perform up to par with Ford and Dodge as far as muscle in a truck goes. Hell there was one guy with a blown 350 in a 00 Sierra CC he only ran 16 something in the quarter... this was in HotRod awhile back.
If you can show me one of those trucks that can pull in a 15 or better yet a 14 second time I'd be very impressed.
Although now that I think of it... the 454SS'es arent too bad, but its a rarity to ever encounter one out on the streets.
P.S. Im talking full size pickups not the syclones.
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DakotaSilver
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7/12/2002
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I have a 4.7 QC with K&N and Duals with the shaker hood and my friend has a CC 4.7 with duals and drop in K&N both trucks are 4x4. Who would win?
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7/12/2002
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the one thats not a 4X4, I think the weight
lossed with the CC is still not as much as the
weight gained with a 4X4. Man, I confused
myself.
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PAT
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7/12/2002
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He said both trucks are 4x4...
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Rob
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7/12/2002
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My competion here is Chevy and they are pretty quick. On the street I seem to be faster but at the track it is much close. My buud has a 2001 5.3 extra cab silverado with jet chip intake and exaust and it ran 15.3 in the quarter which is close to my 15.2 but on the street I smoke him.I think it is do to the track condtions.The only chevy I have lost to was supercharged>
robertshaw 180 thermostat,Z-Tube,Magnaflow stainless exhaust,jet stage 2,throttle body spacer,,Street scene bumper cover,Stull full billet grill and shell,street scene gen 2 rollpan,Apc clear corners,Apc euro tails,DJM 2inch control arms and 3 inch block,power slot brake rotors 18x8 boyd atlas rims
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Dr Q
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7/12/2002
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I had a silverado with dual pipes out the back "try to take me on up a 5% grade He was serious we were going over 100 and I was just playing with him....BuBye Silverado!
Q
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rtman70
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yates-in-de1------u said ur only scared of da lightning and not an r/t?? the other day i raced a lightning and all i have on my club cab r/t is exhaust. we were neck and neck all the way till i governored at 120. lightnings are supercharged and all that. and u think ur stock 4.7 can hang with an r/t?? think again man.
2000 red club cab r/t
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Chipster
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7/17/2002
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Happens all the time in my neck of the woods.
4.7 Auto
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BigRedDak
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lets get into the 4.7 manual vs. the 5.9 r/t arguement again, it's fun...
15.4 stock 4.7rc manual asd. (spun them into second i do believe and still beat an integra)
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xplikt
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I saw a small black truck in Spokane this last weekend driving around that had this "454 SS" factory looking sticker(it was all faded) on it and I was wondering if like he made that and dropped a real 454 it into this lil RC 1500. It was a beater ass truck though, which is a pity..
I've heard kittens that purr louder than that truck. It was quiet exhaust and engine wise... he was an older guy and didn't look to interested in racing with me either.
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tim
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i have the pleasure of owning both a lightning and a 5.9 qc basically a quad r/t. my qc will come close to beating the ford THEY ARE BOTH REALLYYYY FUN. my 5.9 has a intake and high flow muffler and a tb spacer3:92 gears lowered 3/5
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yates-in-de
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7/19/2002
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RT MAN 70,
If that was one of the new Lightnin's with the super charger I bet the driver and his bud had a blast toying with you till you hit your speed limiter and I bet they where so disapointed it couldn't last longer.
No, R/T's are in no way intimidating at all. Prior to coming to Germany I was out with a Bud in his Dakota 4.7 riding around San Antonio, TX. He had just purchased it and had ordered it custom. He is a no frills REDNECK, and had ordered the truck R/C no extras manual every thing except A/C. 5 Speed, 4.7L, w/3.92's for the exclusive reason to pull his 22' boat. He put Dual exaust, and some 16" 60 series tires like all the other Rednecks in Texas, but other than that stock. It was loud because for the redneck straight 12" glass packs are good enough.
I hope the driver/owner of this R/T comes to this forum, but one lined up at a light on Military Blvd and reved up. My friend said "he's going to blow us away with his 5.9, but.... what the hell."
Well at the next light when the R/t finally got there and stopped, me and my friend adrinaline pumped, Reved at him. Light turned green again and we toasted his A$$ again. At the next light the R/T driver is looking a bit like a rabid dog and has loaded up his drive train to just before turning the tires loose intent to prove something. Light turned green again and a heart rush later we beat him to the next light and he was so mad he ran the light and turned left.(I don't think he could look us in the eye) Thats when I decided Dakota Sport+ 4.7L 5 Speed w/3.92's. So Dec 14th I went to the local Sales and walked in and told the salesman this is what I want and handed him the Spec sheet I had created in Excel. Feb 28 it arrived and I've changed some things and run the dog Sheet out of it. No, the R/T is not intimidating, just hyped.
To others sorry about this long post, Later,
My VW Killer
Lynn
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Demon Dakota
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7/19/2002
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yates,
I couldn't agree more. The R/T 5.9 is a great truck in it's own rights, but it is absolutely not in the same league as the newer S/C Lightnings. The R/T was a great performance truck when it was introduced, and it will perform on par with those trucks from the same era. It will not even come close to a 98 or newer Lightning in stock trim (drivers being equal). It doesn't have the same torque curve, doesn't have the RPM capabilities, and certainly doesn't have the HP (again, this is stock trim models). You guys can bullsh!t all you want here on this board, but when it comes down to it on the street/strip, I'll hand you your ass with my S/C Lightning any day of the week. Sorry to rant, but I just can't stand bullsh!tters...
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xplikt
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Why does the R/T come with those dog ugly mickey mouse side mirrors and my little SLT comes with some small sporty-ish ones? I would think the people with the SLT would want the larger mirrors for towing and easier use, and the R/Ts have the smaller more sleek ones. The R/T needs to be a manual 5.7!
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scott
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Lynn and demon dakota,
You guys are right on...there is NO WAY any Dakota, much less a QC is going to keep up with a S/C Lighting, unless it has a bunch of mods.
Don`t get me wrong here, I love my QC , but I know better than to think I could beat one of those things.
Only if they let me.
BTW , wasn`t this suppose to be about Daks. and Spillverados?
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Demon Dakota
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7/20/2002
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scott,
It was (originally). must have mutated somewhere along the lines...again...
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Rob454
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hey guys
I had a 1989 GMC sierra and a 1991 454Ss pick up truck. I can tell you that the 350 89 GMC can and often did smoke the 454ss. I was shocked the first tiem . My buddy who has a couple of race cars went with me cause I wanted to se whatt he trucks would do against each other. the trucks both had the same equipment and body styles. the GMC had the chrome package and the 454 had the balcked out treatment. they were both running 275 60 15 tires. the GMC had a 3.08 gear ration and I think the 454 had 4.10 but I forgot. the GMC stock ran a 15.7 at 90 and the 454 ran 16.2 at 88. the stock 454ss was a slug. not to say they couldnt be made fast. by the time I got mine done it was in the mid 13s low 14( depending on weather and things like that. I ended up selling it to a japanese guy who supposedly took it to japan. I can tell you that the GMC to this day with 280 000 miles on the original motor can absolutely light up the rear 35 inch tires with no problem. it had 4.10 gears and a Auburn posi. My bro in law has it now and the last time i drove it it still felt like it had more low end torque than the dakota did. we havent raced yet and Im assuming well be fairly even mabey Ill be slightly ahead cause the stock TBI unit sucks at higher RPM on the GMC. I can definately pull him from 55 rolling on freeway. the older 350 can be made to go pretty fast as soon as you get rid of the cheezy TBI or at least have it reworked.
I also had a syclone abd while it was a fun truck it got stolen. later I found out that those things were a maintenance nightmare.
anyway some info for you guys in case youre running a stock 454 or 350 chevy.
Rob
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Selcher
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Regarding the Dakota vs Silverado...
My Dakota is a 2002 4.7L CC 4x4 auto loaded... My father's Silverado is a 2001 5.3L CC 4x4 auto loaded and although his is a fast truck, when we line up together, the Dakota is in fact a hell of a lot faster... Off the start and from a 60km rolling start... His is worth $12,000 more though... and the CC doors open up and stuff... go figure... I have not raced his other truck though... It's a 3/4 ton with the Duramax Diesel and Allison tranny... I can tell you from driving it that it drives like a sports car... A real big, owning the road type of sports car...
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Aaron
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Mar
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4.7 5speed 3.92 rear end.
Will smoke all silverados period
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Lee
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My 97 5.2 5sp. 3.55 (I believe) has dusted EVERY single R/T I've ever raced. I love it every time someone in an R/T pulls up next to me and wants to run 'em.... Just another notch on my bedpost. LoL...
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