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antony
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5/30/2002
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Anybody have any info as to whether the 5.9 L V-8
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replaced by the 5.7 L hemi?
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Demon Dakota
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5/30/2002
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Hopefully it will be replaced by the 5.7L Hemi, but who knows if it will have any immediate aftermarket support. It's probably going to end up a lot like the 4.7L. Might take a couple of years for the performance parts to show up.
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xplikt
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5/30/2002
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Actually, I think it's going to do better than the 4.7L, but I guess we can only wait and see.
A motor that is: cheaper to produce, more power, less emissions, more efficient, and smaller. You can count on them using it. Some people might be skeptical of it going to the 1/2 ton, but why wouldn't they? They have every reason to.
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Jed
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5/31/2002
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NO Changes for 2003 dakota same engine everything. Rumors have it though 2003 will be the last year for the 5.9 RT.
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antony
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5/31/2002
05:12:52
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Actually, I WANT the 5.9 rather than the 4.7.
I don't want all the computer-control problems
that have been associated with the 4.7 engine/45RFE transmission combination that have
plagued Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Dakota
owners. I would rather have the older, but less
troublesome 5.9 engine/46RE transmission combination.
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xplikt
Dodge Dakota
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5/31/2002
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As far as I can tell, the 5.9 is still going to be in the Dakota. Nothing has been said about the 5.7 being in anything else but the heavy duty rams..
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Cotharyus
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5/31/2002
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The Dakota isn't slated to see a redesign until '04, at which point you'll probly see an RT-8 with the 5.7, and possibly even an RT-10 - I'll let you figure that one out for yourself. As for computer control problems with the 4.7, I haven't had any problems with mine (30K on an '01) but then I have a 5 speed too. I do have an in at one of the local dealerships here, and I've got my man waiting to call me when the first 2500 with a 5.7 in it shows up - I told him I wanted the first test drive.
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4.7RC
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5/31/2002
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I too have a 4.7 w/ the 45RFE and never had a single powertrain related problem. I do have a Mike Leach beta PCM but that has no control over the transmission(as the tranny is controlled by a seperate computer). 45k miles to date.
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D
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5/31/2002
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4.7RC: what year is your dak, I have an 01,
and was wondering if Mike leach flash was
available for us yet....
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4.7RC
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5/31/2002
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sorry bro mine's a 00
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Big59er
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5/31/2002
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Now this is just a hunch... But I bet they will keep the 5.9 going esspecially for the R/T for 03 atleast... I was reading in truck trend about the 5.7 for 03 and so far its only going to be offered in the super duty rams. The reason I think they're keeping the 5.9 is because in the same magazine they also do an article about the Dak R/T which is still a 5.9... Who knows. As much as I would love to wear the 5.7 badge if they put it in a Dakota I think it would be pretty neat if they kept the 5.9 going esspecially for the R/T. Highly doubtful but interesting to think about. If they dont keep the 5.9, of course, im not going to argue if they start packing the 353 under the hood of an R/T ;)
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4.7RC
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6/01/2002
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"IF" they do put the motor in there you might not argue about the power but I'll almost bet you might argue the raised price tag. I dont think goin from a 250hp motor to a 345hp motor will keep the price in the same range, but of course i could be wrong.
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akdak
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6/02/2002
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The dealers I have talked to said there will be a limited amount of 5.7 hemi daks, he said there will be about the same amount as they had of the kenne bell, bell ringers.
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Hersbird
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6/02/2002
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No way on a 5.7 hemi in a 2003 Dakota. They probably won't get the 5.7 hemi in the 1500 series Ram until 2004. The 2003 2500 and 3500 Rams come standard with the 5.7 hemi, and they will be easilly sucking up all the production. They are almost ready to order 2003 Dakotas and there would have been news of that kind of change long before now, there would have to be some pilot/concept trucks like the SRT-10 ram that was shown all fall at the autoshows. 2002 was supposed to be the last year of the 5.9 but maybe they decided to keep it going a while longer, they still pretty much need the extra torque so the new 1500 Ram isn't too much of a dog until the 5.7 is ready for them, so they might as well keep putting it in the Dakotas and Durangos.
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xplikt
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6/03/2002
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I've heard rumours of the new engine being somewhere near 90 pounds less than the 5.9, anyone know anything about that??
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Douglas
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6/03/2002
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its hard to think that they would even put the 5.7 in a lighter weight truck like the dakota these days. they have choked the 5.9 down to 250 HP (which everyone knows is really capable of much more)presumably for liability and safety reasons. i just dont see dodge putting 345 HP in a dakota unless its 4x4. i think too many people will get into accidents with it.
now pessimism aside...
i hope they do bring it out. 345 HP stock would kick some serious butt.
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Hersbird
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6/03/2002
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If they don't want a powerful truck how do you explain the SRT ram for next year? They are not limiting supply of that truck, and it will be less then a Vette. With 500 HP and probably 5000 pounds, if that doesn't scare the crap out of anybody driving a Mini Cooper then I don't know what will.
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4.7RC
Dodge Dakota
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6/03/2002
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yes the SRT10 is not limited production but look at the price tag!! How many people that can afford dakotas are gonna go out and buy that truck? not many. I doubt chrysler sells a whole heck of a lot of them
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Hersbird
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6/03/2002
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Ford sells quite a few Lightnings for that kind of price and they are limited to very few dealers. The biggest Ford dealer in my state cannot sell SVT products, and if the Lightning was in unlimited production and available at all their dealers, they would sell 4 times as many. So I bet right now that SRT Ram production will be ahead of Dakota R/T production (about 2-3000 a year), which will also put it ahead of Lightning production.
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4.7RC
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6/03/2002
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well the SRT10 is gonna cost a lot more than a lightning...we'll have to wait and see.
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xplikt
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6/03/2002
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Damn, I wish I was out of college and makin' money..
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JOE
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7/15/2002
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I HAVE A 2002 DAKOTA QUAD CAB 4X4 IT HAS THE 5.9 V8 IT'S A FAST TRUCK 0-60-MPH :7.3 SEC AND ITS ALL STOCK FROM DODGE BUT ONE THING I WISH I WOULD OF NOT GOT WAS THE FULL TIME 4WD BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TRACKTION THAT BURN OUTS ARE SMALL BUT ON THE OUTHER HAND I GET A BETTER TAKE OFF THEN A PART TIME 4WD OR R/T BECAUSE OF MY GOOD TRACKTION.
SO IF YOU LIKE TO BURN OUT THEN DO NOT GET THE FULL TIME 4WD BECAUSE THE 5.9 V8 SEEMS SLOW BUT DONT LOOK AT THE SPEEDOMITER BECAUST YOUR AT HIGH SPEEDS. I HAVE BEN AT THE TOP STOCK SPEED OF 116 MPH . THE 5.9 IS THE BEST . IF YOUR GOING TO GET A DOKOTA GET THE 5.9 ONLY IF YOU DONT CARE ABOUT THE POOR GAS MILEAGE . IF YOU DO THEN GET A SLOW CIVIC. A 4 NOCKER !!!!!!!!!!
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Cotharyus
Dodge Dakota
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7/15/2002
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Joe - apparently you have a pretty nice truck. Unfortunately, you obviously got screwed on your computer, since it doesn't appear to have a caps lock key. Or do you just not know how to turn it off?
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yates-in-de
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7/15/2002
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DOH!
I can't believe you said that Joe. If ya need Speed, Power and fuel milage get a 4.7L 5 speed.
Leave the slug (5.9) for the smelter. Well it's not that bad, but it's not all that either.
As far as the 116 mph, I drive my 4.7L about 20 miles to work and 20 miles back from work. I (when theres not anyone in my way) drive 120+ mph to and from work every day. The truck doesn't seem like it's going fast till about 133 mph.
And 7.3 seconds 0-60 isn't that the same as the 1965 50 hp VW Beetle.You can check the speedo at:
My Truck Pics
D.
Anyway D. asking about the LEACH pcm upgrade, the don't do them any more. I don't know why. KENNE BELL does do them and it made a world of difference in mine and it's a 2002. You can find out more from them at:
kennebell@kennebell.net
Good Luck Ya'll
Lynn
'02 Flame Red CC, 4.7, 5 Speed, 3.92's, KB Optimizer II, IP Z-Tube w/7" S&B,[b] 3" Y-pipe back w/Flowmaster 50 Series,[b]Bell Tech 2"x4" Drop, Saddleman Soft Tonneau, RS 180 t-stat, Autolite 3923's,[b]Pirelli Scorpion Zero's 275/60-16's, Savin for the KB Twin Screw Super Charger
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JOEY
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7/15/2002
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TO YATES-IN-DE !!!!YOU MUST HAVE ONE HELL OF A CHIP BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HAVE READ YOUR GOVERNED AT 106 MPH AND 106 T0 133MPH IS A BIG JUMP ARE YOU LOOKING AT KM OR THE MPH. IF I WAS YOU I WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WEB PAGE http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/heraudspecs.aspx?make=dodge&model=dakota&src=404 YOURS 0-60 STOCK IS 11.1 SEC SO WHATS THAT ADD UP TO BECAUSE MY DAKOTA IS AS SLOW AS A VW BUG REMEMBER W/ 245 HP 335 LBS OF TORQUE Engine: 4.7-liter V8
Horsepower: 235 @ 4800
Torque: 295 @ 3200
Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 11.1 sec. 1/4-milles in 18.1 sec.
Top Speed: 106 mph
Braking: 60-0 mph in 165 ft.
Road Holding: 0.77 g.
Fuel Economy: 14 (City) / 21 (Highway)
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yates-in-de
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7/15/2002
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Joey,
Oh I think I hurt his little feelins. I have a speedo shot on my web site that already disproves your carpoint post. Hell read on, and Elvis is in that shooting star that just went by. You spend to much time reading about stock items and fail to read the MODS on my truck. I don't have a chip, I have the Kenne Bell Optimizer II Computer Reprogram. Not only has the spark curve and rev limiter been moved to 6000 rpm, but the TOP SPEED was moved from 115 MPH (again carpoint was wrong) to 135 MPH. As for the 1/4 ET's you are looking at, they are for an AUTOMATIC STOCK. Mine is niether an AUTOMATIC or STOCK. DUH! And further more if CARPOINT can't get the SPEED LIMITER right i sure don't place no stock in there ET's.
You sure put alot of stock in car point huh. They sold you your Quad Cab 5.9 didn't they. They also sell beach front property in Arizona too, don't miss out on that. I made my decision to buy my 4.7 5 SPEED with the 3.92 REAR GEARS while riding with a friend of mine in the USA that blowed off a 5.9 R/T not once but red light to red light 3 times. BONE STOCK. For me seeing is believing, and I've seen, you've read it in a book or on the internet. I will be in Germany for another couple months and me and my 4.7 will be back over there, and I will drive to where you are at and let you show me what real torq is, just before you send it off to the smelter. I will be picking my truck up in Baltimore and driving to Colorado Springs, CO. So more than likely I will be passing the Getto you live in.
Look at the Daily Cruise Speed
Later,
Lynn
'02 Flame Red CC, 4.7, 5 Speed, 3.92's, KB Optimizer II, IP Z-Tube w/7" S&B,[b] 3" Y-pipe back w/Flowmaster 50 Series,[b]Bell Tech 2"x4" Drop, Saddleman Soft Tonneau, RS 180 t-stat, Autolite 3923's,[b]Pirelli Scorpion Zero's 275/60-16's, Savin for the KB Twin Screw Super Charger
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JOE
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7/15/2002
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TO YATES-IN-DE HA HA HA !!!!!!!GHETTO CITY NO YOU GOT ME TWISTED FOR SOME ONE ELCE!!!IF I WAS SOME PLACE GHETTO THEN I WOULD BE DRIVING THE DAKOTA SPORT W/ NO 4X4 AND ONLY OPT IS THE 4.7!!! IM DRIVING A DAKOTA QUAD CAB 5.9 V8 SLT PLUS FULL TIME 4WD W/ AT,5.9,CD CHANGER,DVD, NAVIGATION,Leather Interior Group,Speed Control,Electronic Steering Column,Fog lamps,Remote Keyless Entry,Mirrors Dual Power,Mirrors - Power Heated Fold-Away,Premium Overhead Console, Rearview Automatic Dimming,4-Wheel Antilock,Rear Window Defroster,Skid Plate, Tow Group,Battery - 600-Ampere, Maintenance-Free with Battery-Saver Feature,Fuel Tank 24-Gallon, 5 DEEP WINDOW TINTED,I CAN KEEP GOING BUT IM NOT !!! WELL YOU GET THE POINT I LIKE MY DAKOTA!!!!! AND FOR YOUR INFO GHETTO IS NOT SPELLED GETTO!!!!!! O AND MY FELLINS ARE NOT HURT!!!!!! MAY BE IF I HAD A DAKOTA SPORT W/ A LITTLE UNDER THE HOOD!!!! JOE
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yates-in-de
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7/16/2002
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Hey Richard, Richard Cranium, Joey,
And ELSE is not spelled ELCE. DOH! It's called a type-O. I figure since you are so defensive about the spelling of GHETTO, you don't want any bad light shed on yours. Looks better on your food stamp app. if you can spell it right.
Later,
Lynn
'02 Flame Red CC, 4.7, 5 Speed, 3.92's, KB Optimizer II, IP Z-Tube w/7" S&B,[b] 3" Y-pipe back w/Flowmaster 50 Series,[b]Bell Tech 2"x4" Drop, Saddleman Soft Tonneau, RS 180 t-stat, Autolite 3923's,[b]Pirelli Scorpion Zero's 275/60-16's, Savin for the KB Twin Screw Super Charger
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Cotharyus
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7/16/2002
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Yates- I wouldn't worry about Joey too much - see, he still hasn't done anything about that caps lock key. He's probly some 12 year old kiddie with his first 'puter dreaming about owning a nice truck.
Joey - when you do turn 16, and you've figured out how your caps lock key works, I hope you start out with a 4-cyl, because it'll keep you insurance a lot lower.
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trickey
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Carpoint is off on a lot of their cars. Motortrend is more accurate. They've clocked the 2000 quad cab dakota with an automatic 4.7 at 7.4 0-60 and 15.8 1/4. pg.133 August 2002. Don't pay any attention to carpoint. Just thought I would throw my $.02 in.
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DAVID
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To JOEY
I would take my dakota slt plus 4x4 any day over that cheep sport . If you lived in the ghetto then you would not be driving a fully loaded dakota because my slt plus was $35,678.00 and you have more features then I do so you must have paid $36,500.00-$40,000.00 and I would love to see some pic's of your dakota can you send me some THANKS o and dont pay attention to them thay are all just wishing for a slt plus 5.9 to!
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