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Matt
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5/27/2002
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I am waiting for my 2002 Dakota Sport Plus 4X2, 4.7 automatic. I was curious, How much weight can I put in the back box? I want to pick up a yard of soil for the garden and stuff like that. Will it hold it?



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5/27/2002
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You will be dragging a$$ for sure with a yard of soil. I put about 600lbs in mine and it sags pretty good. Thats with the roadmasters. I am looking into airbags for load assist.

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5/27/2002
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The Dealership said that I could hold 2000lbs. I guess I could just get stronger springs and shocks or something right?



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5/27/2002
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It will hold it but the axle will be on the bump stops. I have done some looking around and I think I will buy some timbren load boosters. Had them on a half ton and they worked great. I have loaded 3000lbs in a 1/2 ton and with the timbrens it was pretty level. See for your self


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5/27/2002
20:33:52

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Check the sticker on the drivers side door pillar for the gross vehicle weight rating. Then weigh your truck with yourself and a full tank of fuel aboard. Subtract that weight from the GRWR and the difference is the available payload.

Dealers will tell you anything to make a sale.

Check the yellow pages for public scale or truck scale to find a place to get weighed. Should cost about ten bucks to do it. Good investment in real information.


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5/27/2002
21:49:37

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That dealer could be talking about the optional 2000 lbs payload option. It comes with bigger drums and another spring.

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5/30/2002
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I have a '94 short bed 2wd dakota and I loaded my bed full of 1" crush gravel for my driveway, bumper was almost on the ground but the funny thing was is that I never even hit my bump stops once. I tell ya dodge is on heck of a hualing truck.

Jim



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5/30/2002
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Man I gotta jump in on this one. I loaded my QC with a pallet of stepping stones and didn't realize that it was 2160lbs. (15lbs. x 144) till after the fact. It towed it home no problems and wasn't on the bump stops at all.



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5/31/2002
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Overloading a truck is very dangerous. It unloads the front axle, making steering response vague and unresponsive. It also severely overwhelms the brakes. Filling the bed with gravel, or 2200 pounds of pavers might be doable. But it's not smart. Everything will go to hell if you have to turn or stop suddenly.

I've seen more than one pickup upside down on the side of the freeway because it was overloaded and the driver couldn't control it in an emergency. At least once that I know of the driver was killed.

If you overload your truck and drive on public roads you are reckless, irresponsible, and a danger to the rest of us.


-J.






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5/31/2002
09:25:01

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I would say that some moderate overloading can be done if proper precautions are taken ahead of time. Like making sure the center of the load is infront of the axle (so the mentioned unloading doesn't occur), properly making sure the load doesn't shift, and making sure you're driving damn slow. Generally people don't do these things often enough :)



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5/31/2002
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Hey man, calm down!! I did say I didn't realize it at the time. I appreciate the warning though, I actually never thought of it unloading the front before, being that I don't know alot about suspension. Yet, I assure you, I am not reckless or irresponsible, atleast I had the sense to load it at the front of the bed and to strap it down very good.



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6/01/2002
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I'd put that kind of weight on a trailer. There's no way that a Dak is a one ton truck, 1/2 ton's pushing it. Overloading the truck puts undue strain on components that are not designed to be operated in that manner leading to possible breakage/accelerated wear as well as most importantantly being unsafe. Everyone's always crying about brake performance, if the truck is overloaded you dam well better be creeping along because if the brakes are half-azzed when the truck is empty imagine trying to stop with a ton of xtra weight in the bed. Scale it out like J. C. Brandon said, cost you $7 on a Cat scale at a truck stop. Sorry about the rant but I'm a trucker, I know a little about weight and stability.



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6/01/2002
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BlackDak, SOME are 1 tons. My 99 had the 1 ton payload option, which I called the optional truck ride option, and you could put 600lbs in and it only would drop about 2-3".

I don't think the brakes were bigger w/2k option in 99 but not sure. If they were it was rear only and it would be easy to upgrade to the springs and shoes..

Actually I wanted a heavier payload for my QC but I think it already comes with the heavy parts.

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6/01/2002
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I'd be curious as to know the GVWR on those 'one tons'. It'd have to be about 7k wouldn't it? I'd also be curious to know what Dodge was thinking putting a 1 ton rating on a truck sized between a S10 and a half ton p'up. Sorry man, I can't see the sense in it, if you want to do heavy hauling get a big 3/4- 1 ton full size. See too much of this nonsense on the road, have to deal with it every day. Just my opinion, I could be wrong, it won't be the first time.


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6/01/2002
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Black dak 02- 6010 gvwr quad cab 4x2 3.55 rear and 5900 gvwr club cab 4x4 3.92 rear.

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6/01/2002
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Thanx Graphite. Dunno, I figure my CC goes about 4500, 4700 with me in it. 1100/900 payload, guess 1/2 ton. Uhoh, got a cap take off 200 more, forget it I'll just borrow a truck from work, LOL. BTW, I was wrong I thought the truck with me in it would be closer to 5k, that's what I've been using for the G-tec, 300lbs. makes alot of difference. Used the search to find what others have reported their trucks weights as. I'm curious, now maybe I'll go scale my truck. I'm also curious as to how a set of ring and pinion gears will allow you to carry 300 lbs. extra.


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6/02/2002
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My 99 RC 4X4 5.2 was about 4100-4200 with me in it. GVWR was just over 6k. Do the math 6K-4k=2k.

The gears have nothing to do with GVWR only with towing capacity.

My 01 QC is 5100 w/me in it.

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6/02/2002
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GVWR on my truck= 5600. The gears do have something to do with GVWR. Graphite has the same truck as me with 3.92's his GVWR is 5900; I have 3.55's with 5600 GVWR, both 2002's.


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6/02/2002
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I think what were missing is the tire and wheel size, my truck says 6010 lbs with 235 tires15x7 wheels I have stock 255's 16x8 wheels I should be able to load them more.

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6/03/2002
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Blackdak02-I also have the higher payload option.

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6/03/2002
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Bigger wheels and tires than listed on the GVWR sticker won't increase the GVWR. That's the minimum tires size to get that rating, so a smaller tire would decrease the rating, but bigger tires won't increase it. The tires on our trucks are not the limiting factor.

To increase the rating you would need to find out what the limiting component is and beef it up. Since the factory heavy payload options include bigger springs and brakes you could add those and increase the GVWR to equal the factory option. Beyond that it is difficult to determine which component is limiting the payload. Chyrsler or your dealer won't tell you. And if you have the engineering skills and experience to determine it yourself you would probably decide to start with a beefier truck in the beginning, rather than modify a Dakota to haul much bigger loads.


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6/03/2002
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All i got to say is,... I own a painting company, and i had to but a ton of 10 foot sheets of sideing,... this stuff was the thickest sideing i've seen and i put 20 of them in the back of my 98... it was dragging the tale pipe, and i drove 30 miles from a near town at 70 mph. That was a fun time.

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6/03/2002
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Graphite- What is included in the "higher payload option" to allow you to carry 300lb. extra over base?




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6/03/2002
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larger rear brakes. Some say an extra leaf in the springs but I am not sure about that. I never checked on a dak without the heavy payload option. My wifes quad cab has the larger brakes also. It is standard on the quadcabs.
since it is only a $40.00 option, an extra spring and larger brakes seems like a lot for the price.
The different axle ratio won't affect pay load ratings only how much you can tow.

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6/03/2002
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Thanx...should have read J. C. Brandon's post above to avoid redumdancy


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