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dan369
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6/30/2008
13:22:17

Subject: my dakota is using alot of oil?
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Hey all, I have a 2000 r/t with 67,000 miles on it and its going through 2 quarts of oil every 3,000 miles.its not leaking and i cant see it burning.
It does run like crap in the summer if i dont use premium fuel, it pings alot and has like 30% less power.
Anyone know what is wrong with it and will it be coverd on my extended warranty that I have for 4 more months?



daddio
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6/30/2008
13:52:01

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sounds like the intake manifold "belly pan" gasket is bad. oil consumption and pinging are telltale signs of this. it may be covered under your ext warranty. i suggest you read up on what your warranty covers.



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6/30/2008
15:28:29

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Daddio hit the nail on the head Dan. If you want to see for yourself, take the airhat/cleaner assy off depending on your setup ,get a flashlight open the throttle plate and lookfor pooling oil in the manifold. If your using 2qts every 3,000 miles you should see some in the bottom of the manifold. If it turns out its not under warranty you might consider a M-1 manifold to replace it. Your 8/80 federal emmissions should cover the TSB Labor operation. If the Dealer gives you any Shzt contact Chrysler directly



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6/30/2008
19:36:33

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My buddy's 200 R/T was "fixed" for this problem by a PCM recall that put on the death flash. It has a small oil consumption problem that we have confirmed is the belly pan gasket issue.

Unfortunately, DCX's choice of correction is/was a software update to pull some timing (to alleviate pinging) instead of fixing the real issue. Pulling the timing cut back on the ping issue some owners were experiencing.

I think you'll be hard pressed to get them to correct the issue (properly) without having you pay for it. My guess is they will "fix" it by employing the software update and they will say oil consumption is your problem.

Good luck. If you get a ruling in your favor it might help others out which have the same issue.

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MOPARornoCAR
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7/01/2008
00:34:17

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yep...been there done that belly pan gasket bit.......mine still uses oil and still pings when stomped on....good ol' chrysler quality.
dealer said my belly pan gasket wasnt the cause and they replaced all the valve stem seals....
still using oil......@ 1 qt every change.
one thing positive though.....at least i will never own another dodge again.....
oh well ....win some loose some.



daddio
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7/01/2008
08:34:05

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"one thing positive though.....at least i will never own another dodge again..... "

then i guess you'll be needing a new handle. i hope you are happy with whatever vehicle you choose to own. my 30+ yrs of owing and driving different vehicles is that ALL the manufacturers have their "lemons".



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7/02/2008
23:00:59

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i have a 2000 4x4 4door 4.7 and its burning quite a bit of oil as well. almost 3 quarts every oil change. how much would yall say replacing the belly pan gasket including labor cost? ballpark figure.. oh and is the belly pan gasket the same thing as a head gasket?
thanks alot




daddio
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7/03/2008
08:34:10

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stevedak, because your 4.7 is a completely different engine design than the 3.9/5.2/5.9 your engine (fotunately for you) does not have a belly pan gskt.

"almost 3 quarts every oil change."

how many miles do you go between oil changes?
how many miles on the engine?
could be just valve stem seals.



dan369
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7/03/2008
13:06:50

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in reply to all, the warranty company i got the extended watrranty from is not going to cover the cost of the replacement intake manifold gasket.They said it actully has to be broke down and its not.
Also I think it allready had the deathflash before i got the truck as there is a sticker in the engine compartment that says something about a pcm update in 2002.
Also I beleive this truck had the oil burn issue before I purchased it at 56,000 miles over 3 years ago.I just never drove it enough to really notice it until i changed jobs recently and begain using the truck everyday.
I will just have to watch my oil level from now on and not let it get to where i cant even see the level on the dipstick when the engine is warm.
That was another question I had, when the engine is cold it would show on the dipstick at the add line but if i drove it and waited 15 minutes to check, it wouldnt even register on the stick.I have used synthetic mobil 1 since i have had it for over 3 years.is that normal for the oil to all drain back in the pan after hours have passed?



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7/03/2008
14:12:13

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don't give up on the warranty yet. You know that you can take the vehicle to any shop that is willing to work with the warranty company and you don't have to go to the dealer. that is if it's after market warranty and not the factory warranty.

Talk to your local shops and see what they can do for you. If the shop says the gasket is bad, and it's covered under the warranty, then you are set.

- Dan M




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7/03/2008
14:16:47

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running that much oil through the engine and exhaust will eventually ruin the O2's and the cat converter. i'd do as Dan M suggest. if not then you could either go with the Hughes Engines reinforcement set or get an M1 intake manifold and never worry about the belly pan again.



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7/03/2008
16:26:02

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There's no reason to assume every PCM update is the deathflash - not all retard the timing. Good luck with the extended warranty company. Parts can be bad, causing poor running with out the truck being completely broken down. Does their warranty specify the truck has to be "broken down" ? I tend to doubt it - might be worth giving them a fight. For example, I don't think they'd want people pushing a leaking water pump until the truck actually dies, before they'd cover it. Don't accept that answer...

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dan369
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7/03/2008
16:33:51

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Ok, can anyone reccomend a shop near sacramento, CA to take it to? I love my truck and id rather work on it myself then have some idiot do something to it it didnt need but if it can be coverd on my 3rd party warranty i just need a reccomendation.



stevedak
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7/03/2008
19:34:19

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the truck has 150,000 miles on it. i generally attempt to change it every 3 thousand miles but sometimes it can be stretched to five. i figured it couldnt be that bad for it since i'm adding oil every week to it.. so with the 4.7 what could cause that much oil consumption?



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7/03/2008
19:42:45

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have you changed the PCV valve? that or valve stem seals or rings. you sure it's not leaking somewhere? i don't think i've seen anyone post on here about a 4.7 using that much oil at that mileage.



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6/05/2009
20:20:48

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99 Dakota, 5.2, 74,000.miles is using 2 quarts between oil changes. It really kills me, I have been the original owner and babied this truck and can not belive it. Pings on exceleration too. Just today Trans stopped shifting and wont go out of first. I am so disapointed in DCX, Never will I buy an American car again Im just going to lay down just like everyone else. Sick of getting taken by "Corporate America",Guess thats why this country in the Pickle its in. Sorry UAW.



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6/06/2009
20:28:08

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2 qts in 3000 miles...gads, don't own an Alfa or MG!<BG>

The suggested gasket replacement is a new one on me (I'm not a V8 person yet<G>)

But a leak down test could tell you if it is rings

is the engine "dirty"--leak here and there? if leaking is possible, clean the engine and dust it with baby powder. run it a hundred miles, then look for oil tracks.



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