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matt
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6/24/2004
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if you have a '90 4x4 3.9L do you need any engine mounting brackets to upgrade to v8?
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cardyman
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2004
11:28:25
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If you don't even know what the crank sensor is, then you shouldn't be doing the V8 swap!!!
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matt
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6/25/2004
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i know what a crack sensor is. the question was if it is possible to put one on a pre mag v6 or v8. the reason i ask stupid questions is because i'm in iraq and i havent even seen a dakota in over a year.
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IntenseDak39
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6/25/2004
09:14:40
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why do you want a crank sensor?
i dont think your motor has one... and i wouldnt mess with it unless you were switching to a magnum. If you really want one for a premag, MSD has a crank triggering kit.
6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs
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matt
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6/25/2004
10:13:52
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well i wanted to upgrade my engine to a magnum. this is just one of many different options i am considering to upgrade my truck when i get back. my engine doesnt have a crank sensor or anything so that upgrade would need one if i didnt switch out the whole block.
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cardyman
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6/25/2004
11:46:39
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why are you wasting your time in iraq?
being stupid doesn't depend on time. just because you haven't seen a dak in a year doesn't mean anything. stupidness is inherent, regardless of time.
you don't know what you are talking about.
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IntenseDak39
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6/25/2004
14:59:14
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dont mess with a sensor for your old motor. Just whenever you get a magnum.. hopefully you can just find a junkyard or online yard that you can pirate everything from.
6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs
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matt
Dodge Dakota
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6/27/2004
10:08:13
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hey there cardyman thanks for letting me know that serving my country is a big waste of time. next time our president decides to free a country all just tell him to fu*k off.
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IntenseDak39
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6/27/2004
10:24:59
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thanx for what you do matt!!
i have a twin brother in Iraq right now serving his second tour of duty. Next month my other brother is going there.
6.6 Lt. Big Block, 727 TF shift kit, 452 heads, edelbrock 750 cfm, .513/.513 284/300 crower cam, comp cams springs, comp cams pushrods, 1.5 roller rockers, dp intake, mopar ignition, mopar windage tray, dual exhaust w/ 40 series flowmasters, 4.10 gears, coilover drag suspension, approx, 3500 lbs
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gen1dak
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6/27/2004
12:26:16
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Adding the crank sensor is easy, if you still decide to go forward. There's a notch in the tranny where it resides, and it bolted to the engine block with a couple small bolts. You can make this notch with a grinder or will probably be able to pick one up easily. When Dodge replaced my '89 A500 tranny in '93, the bellhousing of the replacement had the notch in it.
Don't sweat the questions. It's much harder to figure things out when you don't have an example right in front of you. You're over there for us. We're here for you. Don't sweat the gutless pricks out there expressing their uninformed, Michael Moore-inspired opinions. There's always gonna be some useless chaff in the mix.
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matt
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6/28/2004
09:38:04
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thanks alot for the support guys. i hope to be back in the states in time for Christmas and hopefully my wife wont keep me to busy in the bedroom and let me work on my dakota. the only other question about crank sensors is do they count the actual teeth on the flywheel or is there a special plate that trigers the sensor? if there is a special plate does anyone know if it will bolt (or attach somehow) to the flexplate? also i assume most of this info goes along with the 318 being that it is almost the exact same engine. oh also no one answered whether or not i would need new engine mounts if i upgraded to the 318. thanks again for your support, hope to keep posting messages and learning more.
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gen1dak
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6/28/2004
18:30:31
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The crank sensor reads what is a special ring incorporated into is the flywheel or flexplate as a single piece.It bolts to the crank in the usual fashion. This ring has a solid outer edge with 8 (for a V8) "holes" in it. As the engine spins, the sensor reads the holes and that's all there is to that.
As for engine mounts, it depends on what block type you use....LA or Magnum. If LA (pre-Magnum), you'd need to check with the boys at engine-swaps.com. They offer a bolt-in crossmember, but it specifies 2WD. Dunno about 4WD. If a Magnum V8 block, you should be good as far as the mounts go. The Magnum V8's received the mounting triad pad just like the V6's had all along, but again, the 4WD deal may be an issue. Not sure about that.Anyone?
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cardyman
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6/28/2004
18:45:51
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Wife keep you too busy in the bedroom doing what....
hiding from all the scary things!
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FazDak
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6/28/2004
19:57:49
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Cardy, shame you really think your IQ is so much higher than Matt's. If it wasn't for the "Matt's" of this country your IQ would be measured in labor hours the communist way.
Unless maybe........you are over seas and your insanely jealous of the US like the rest of the world?
Either way, I will pray for your simple soul.
"You don't know what you are talking about."
When someone comes on a forum and ends a sentence with a "?"....that pretty much means they don't know what there talking about and are looking for guidance. Last laugh is on you.
Matt, look into a preMag V8. If you do a few small adjustments to your fuel system and ignition you can use carburetion and the sky's the limit on performance then.
God Speed and come home to your wife safely Solider.
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gen1dak
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6/28/2004
21:17:27
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Agreed. Carb it if you can. I'm involved in one of the slowest engine swaps in history, but am putting a 360 Magnum in my '89 Dakota. It's a Shelby, so it's kinda a cheat since they already had provisions for a V8, but I'm putting a carb unit in now and cobbling the MPI stuff together for a later mod if I want to, or the emissions police decide to make an appearance.
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fahve tx doj
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6/28/2004
22:57:03
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Hey Ya'll
glad I ran into this thread cause I want to do the same swap on my '91 tbi v6.would like to stick with tbiv8,figured it'd be easier.which years would be best for this swap,can v8 bolt to my 5 spd,do I have to change rad. and electronics.I have read that it will physicaly bolt in but how 'bout everything else. thanx!
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Frebius
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6/29/2004
03:31:56
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Hey Matt I have friends over there fighting along side you and thanks for what you are doing. To bad we have ignorant people like cardyman. Even if you don't support the war you still HAVE to support the troops.
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cardyman
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6/29/2004
11:25:19
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two of my brothers have been killed over there.
i don't support sh!t anymore. you are the ones who should be ashamed for not seeing this circus for what it is.
support the troops - sure.
the troops want to come home - i support that.
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Rosane
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6/29/2004
17:39:51
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I have a 89 2wd dakota with a3.9tbi and i want to put in a 5.2tbi. Do i have to change all the wiring and the computer or just the computer
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FazDak
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6/29/2004
22:38:31
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If that is indeed true cardy.....then I feel your pain.
Although, there are thousands over there who are still alive, and so are you. Try and see the good in it and be positive for them even though loosing loved ones is that hard.
Circus or not, its how this country was built and how we still stand the formost power in the world.
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Dj Drama
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2007
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im know alil bout engines, althought i mainly build bodykits and paint. I wuz wondering what i could swap in my 99 V6 Mag Dakota. Im lookin for a short block or something to drop in my truck for power. Maybe even any advice or place i can look for engine upgrades or add-ons. Thanx.
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