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MikeS
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12/11/2003
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I'm about to switch over to AMSOIL in my 2000 V6. I've been running Mobil 1 full synth. for 3 years now and I'm happy with it but love the drain intervals of AMSOIL. My question is about the tranny fluid though. Has anyone here used it in their Dak? If so please give me some feedback on its performance. I've heard that synthetic tranny fluids might not be the best idea.
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J and J Auto
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12/11/2003
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Amsoil Universal Trans fluid or the chrysler ATF+4
are the only fluids we use in these trans at the
shop
I have been running it in my trans for about
30,000 miles now, made the trans shift smother
and run almost 30 degress cooler. I also run it
in my transfer case.
I run all amsoil even the rear ends and grease it
with the syn fortified with molly
Yes I have a trans temp guage in my truck also a
nordask Air/Fuel meter on its own o2 so I can
monitor my stroker very closely
The Amsoil runs very good in these transmissions
Larry
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12/12/2003
06:37:10
|  AMSOIL Synthetic Universal ATF
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Thanks Larry for the positive comments.
Mike, I'm certain that you have seen this in my prior posts somewhere, but I am offering it here again as an FYI for everyone else:
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AMSOIL Synthetic Universal ATF
Recommended for applications requiring the following specifications:
Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, ATF+3, ATF+4
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AMSOIL synthetic automatic transmission fluid is a universal ATF designed to exceed nearly all foreign and domestic performance requirements. It improves fuel efficiency, reduces transmission temperatures by 20 to 50 degrees F and increases transmission life. Provides unsurpassed thermal stability and at least 3 times the life of conventional ATFs. Delivers maximum protection for towing and other severe-duty applications. Formulated with synthetic basestocks and the top-of-the-line additive package, AMSOIL ATF provides top performance, durability & efficiency.
Key Benefits to You:
Cleaner transmission components, More efficient power transfer, Lower Transmission temperatures, Dramatically less transmission wear, Smoother cold temperature operation, Long drain intervals, Compatible Applications: Nearly all passenger cars (foreign & domestic), Nearly all light duty trucks (including Dodge Dakotas).
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Because sooooo many people have asked the same question ... I forwarded the question to Amsoil in the past. Here is their response ... AND I LIKE IT:
"The AMSOIL ATF is far superior to an ATF blended with hydro treated naphthenic oil. Secondly it uses a premium additive chemistry that meets the static and dynamic coefficient of friction parameters to meet ATF+4 requirements. It also meets the coefficients of friction parameters for MERCON, MERCON V, DEXRON III, and Diamond SPIII.
Although the additive chemistry may be slightly different the exclusive MOPAR fluid from the factory, it still follows suit with the parameters set forth by Daimler Chrysler. All AMSOIL lubricants are designed to improve performance and increase protection to engine and transmission components."
"Further more, Chrysler developed the +4 spec to "fix" an inherent chattering problem with the Chrysler transmissions. That is the sole reason why Chrysler recommends +4 fluid and this is why nobody offers a +4 fluid. On the other hand there are fluids that are far superior to Chryslers +4 specs, including ours!"
"We didn’t just one day decide to make this claim just for the heck of it. This was very carefully researched and we have been developing superior fluids for over 30 years. We certainly would not recommend fluids we knew were going to cause problems. Why would anyone who wants to stay in business??"
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12/12/2003
06:41:53
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... and in closing ...
" .... what is recommended change interval of Amsoil ATF? ... and has anyone out there used the synthetic atf in their dakota --- if so what is your opinion."
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Extended Drain Intervals
AMSOIL ATF is formulated for extended drain intervals. Transmissions usually operate under severe service conditions. They are subjected to extensive idling, frequent short trips, cold temperature driving, sustained hot weather driving or trailer towing. When conventional transmission fluid is used, it should be changed every 15,000 to 30,000 miles. AMSOIL ATF should be changed at intervals up to three times longer than the recommendations of the vehicle manufacturer.
SERVICE LIFE
AMSOIL ATF has an expected fluid life of three times the automatic transmission manufacturer's recommendations. Drain intervals may be extended indefinitely when fluid analysis is used.
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I am going to quote a Member of this website, BigBlue QC. (He won't mind ... I have exchanged emails with him on a few occassions).
BigBlue QC states:
"I have had perfect luck with AMSOIL ATF in my trans, it has been in the truck for 60000 miles, tested twice, with perfect results each time. Good luck. 14 quarts for a complete flush, another 1-1/2 quarts if you have a 4x4 for the transfer case, which you have to drain and re-fill. You will need a pump for the transfer case to re-fill. If you bought whatever you decide locally why can't you return whatever you don't open??? Having an extra 2 quarts on hand while doing this is not a bad thing as a just in case."
" ... the 14 quarts is with the tranny cooler as I have one also." "... it has been over a year since I changed the transfer case to AMSOIL ATF. I remember filling to the hole level and then buttoning it up. Haven't had any problems with it. I am a preferred customer for AMSOIL (I pay the $20/year to get the wholesale pricing) and I remember it is cheaper to get the bigger jugs of fluid, like 2-1/2 gallons, when you need larger quantities. 2-1/2 gallons is 10 quarts, if you got two of them it should be enough for the trans, transfer case, and power steering. Yes, I have changed the power steering fluid in my truck to AMSOIL ATF also(my year uses ATF+4 as the ps fluid) with no regrets."
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andys1960
Dodge Dakota
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12/12/2003
07:36:56
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Is it a must to completly flush system when changing to amsoil atf fluid?or can you simply drain and refill?does anyone know the refill capacity for each?
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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12/12/2003
15:05:51
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Hey amsoil sponser, I have a whine coming from my rear end between 50 and 60 mph. I want to change the fluid to amsoil in the differential. Which product do I use for my 2wd 2001 3.9 Dakota???? Also where is the best place to buy amsoil???
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J and J Auto
GenII
12/12/2003
15:15:31
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The amsoil will mix fine with whats left in your
trans, I never flushed mine just filter and about
6 qts twice now, I change mine every 10 to 15,000
but I make it work hard.
Just this morn I had a 4.7 Dak for brekfast LOL
sitting next to me at a stop light right on the
edge of town reving his motor. By the time we
got accross the intersection I had 2 lenghts on
him ran it upto 100mph he was not even close.
Bet he will never make that mistake again, seeing
my V6 badges probably thought he could out run me
LOL did I fool him LOL
75 90 or 80 90 is what I used in my rears, I think
next change I will go to 75 90
Larry
J&J Auto
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BigBlueQC
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12/12/2003
16:33:39
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going on 85000 in my truck, AMSOIL ATF since 4000. Not one problem, have done 2 filter changes. Oil Analysis each time has proven it was just fine.
2002 QC 4x4 Sport Plus, 4.7L, auto, Patriot Blue, Tire & Handling group,
Heavy Duty Service group, Leer cap w/out windows, Mopar Step bars and roof rack, Rhino liner in bed and on step bars, Pace Edwards Power Tailgate lock
3.55 rear, 4-wheel anti-lock brakes, all possible fluids are AMSOIL
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DakotaEnthusiast
12/12/2003
19:04:53
| AMSOIL Gear Lube 75w-90
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FYI - Gear Lube Information:
High quality gear oils must lubricate, cool and protect geared systems. They must also carry damaging wear debris away from contact zones and muffle the sound of gear operation. Commonly used in differential gears and standard transmission applications in commercial and passenger vehicles, as well as a variety of industrial machinery, gear oils must offer extreme temperature and pressure protection in order to prevent wear, pitting, spalling, scoring, scuffing and other types of damage that result in equipment failure and downtime. Protection against oxidation, thermal degradation, rust, copper corrosion and foaming is also important.
AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 75W-90 Gear Lube delivers unbeatable protection and fuel economy (independent testing shows class 8 vehicles with AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 75W-90 Gear Lube in the differentials obtained up to 4.83 percent more mpg than vehicles equipped with another popular gear lube). Amsoil Synthetic Gear Lube has the film strength required to deliver all the protection heavy-duty and high-stress applications need in a fuel-saving viscosity grade. AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 75W-90 Gear Lube is recommended for use in all passenger vehicles, commercial trucks and race vehicles.
AMSOIL 75W-90, 80W-90 AND 85W-140 Gear Lubes exceed the lubrication and performance requirements for gear boxes where API MT-1, GL-4 or GL-5 lubricants are specified.
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AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive
Effectively Eliminates Gear Housing Chatter
When making a turn, the outer wheels of a vehicle must travel faster than the inner wheels. It is up to the differential to act as a balance arm, establishing constant equilibrium of torques and forces between the left-hand and right-hand driven wheels. In standard (or open) differentials, power is directed to the wheel offering the least resistance. This works well when making a turn, but in a situation where one wheel is lifted off the ground, it causes the suspended wheel to turn while the other remains motionless.
Limited-slip (or positraction) and locking differentials are traction-increasing devices. Locking differentials transfer all available torque to both wheels. The teeth of the spider assembly engage with those on the locker clutch, causing both axle shafts to operate as one. Locking differentials don't allow one drive wheel to spin while the other remains stationary. Instead, they keep both wheels in drive mode, but unlock to permit different wheel speeds when turning. The engaging and disengaging of the teeth on automatic locking differentials often causes a banging and clunking sound. Manual locking differentials usually use an electric motor or vacuum diaphragm to engage the locker, reducing this noise.
Limited-slip differentials allow different wheel speeds when turning, but when one wheel loses traction, greater torque is transferred to the wheel offering more resistance. Limited-slip differentials make use of friction between clutch plates, as opposed to the meshing teeth employed by locking differentials. Transferring less torque per side, limited-slip differentials are generally smoother and quieter than locking differentials, but still sometimes "chatter" when transferring torque to the wheel with traction.
In some differential applications, a friction modifier additive is necessary to reduce chatter. AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive is formulated with advanced friction modifiers and is designed to eliminate gear-housing chatter in cars, trucks and SUVs equipped with limited-slip, positraction and locking differentials. It also reduces the banging and clunking associated with automatic locking differentials.
AMSOIL Slip-Lock Differential Additive is formulated for use with both synthetic and petroleum gear lubricants and safely replaces manufacturer recommended friction modifiers. Its convenient flip-top dispenser provides quick and easy application to the gear housing. One four-ounce bottle of Slip-Lock treats differential capacities of two to four quarts. It is not for use in automatic transmissions or other applications requiring ATF.
NOTE: AMSOIL Synthetic Gear Lubes DO NOT require the use of this additive. However, not all differentials respond the same and if chatter is noticed, the addition of AMSOIL Slip-Lock will eliminate it. For chattering differentials not running AMSOIL Gear Lube, this product is an excellent solution to the problem.
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12/12/2003
19:05:59
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One more helpful post.
For those of you thinking of changing your own fluids (DIY) ...
Helpful Differential Recommendations:
-Flush (drain) as much of the old fluid out.
-Differential fluid capacity depends on ring gear and axle housing size.
-Do not over/under fill differential. This could mean a capacity difference of a quart or more and may cause overheating problems. (See the owner’s manual for proper fill level)
AMSOIL gear oils are formulated with friction modifiers for limited slip differential applications. There is no need to add limited slip or additional additives. If you choose a different manufacturer than Amsoil ... fine by me, just offering my services.
-After changing the differential fluid, drive the vehicle in 7 or 8 figure eight turns, so the new lubricant can work its way into the axle assembly.
Synthetics provide the long-lasting protection, fuel efficiency and dependability needed for top performance, even extreme-pressure conditions. Stays fluid in cold temperatures for easy cold-weather shifting.
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Amsoil Series 2000 75w-90 is excellent for use in passenger cars and trucks requiring a GL-5 gear lube, including those with limited slip differentials.
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DakotaEnthusiast
12/12/2003
19:13:07
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Amsoil is available thru Independent Dealers such as myself. Orders are placed either from the catalog (toll-free #) or from the online store when you visit my website(secure credit card orders can be placed direct from my website). If you would like a FREE catalog you can request one at my website (link below). Some speciality retail stores also carry Amsoil, as well as high-performance automotive shops. Some "quick lubes" are now offering Amsoil.
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Amsoil Warehouse Locations
I have had many requests asking for locations where Amsoil can be "picked up" rather than delivered via UPS. Many Retail Stores carry Amsoil, but it is difficult to obtain an address list since they often operate as Independent Amsoil Commercial or "On-the-Shelf" locations. Another option os to "pick up" the product direct from the warehouse. You can still request a catalog, order, and then "pick up" at the warehouse locations if you choose.
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Warehouse Locations
Anchorage, AK, Mile 42 1/2 Glenn Hwy, HC05 Box 9639, Palmer, AK 99645
Orlando, FL, 3724 Silver Star Rd, Orlando, FL 32808
Chicago, IL, 295 Lincoln Ave, Bensenville, IL 60106
Dallas, TX, 2234 Commerce Dr., Arlington, TX 76011
Lancaster, PA, 1917A Olde Homestead Rd, Lancaster, PA 17601
(My brother lives in Lancaster, he is also an Amsoil Dealer
and a Certified Mechanic, and can assist you if you need his help)
Las Vegas, NV, 4545 N. Lamb Blvd., Unit C, Las Vegas, NV 89115
Portland, OR, 18379 SW Boones Ferry Rd, Building A, Portland, OR 97224
Richmond, VA, 5616 Charles City Circle, Richmond, VA 23231
Superior, WI, 2206 Winter St, Superior, WI 54880
Wichita, KS,3800 West 29th St., Suite 5, Wichita, KS 67217
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CANADA DISTRIBUTION CENTERS
Toronto, ON, 6625 Tomken Rd., Units 12-14, Mississauga, ON L5T 2C2
Edmonton, AB, 14543-121 A Ave., Edmonton, AB T5L 2T2
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PUERTO RICO DISTRIBUTION CENTER
Carolina, PR, AMSOIL Distribution Center, Roberto Clemente Avenue, 117A #2,
Villa Carolina, Carolina, Puerto Rico 00985
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NEW ZEALAND DISTRIBUTION CENTER
Auckland, NZ, AMSOIL Distribution Centre,
3/1 Binsted Rd., New Lynn, Auckland, New Zealand
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First however, request a catalog by visiting my website (link below), decide what you need and order it on the phone (toll-free) ... so it will be ready when you arrive.
Thank You!
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MikeS
Dodge Dakota
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12/13/2003
10:41:37
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whoa, you guys rock. Thanks for all the great responses and advice. I wont fear the synth. tranny fluid anymore and I'll be sure to use AMSOIL in both my next fluid changes.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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12/13/2003
16:45:50
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I was taking a look at your site amsoil sponsor. I want to change out my differential oil in the rear. Why am I going to need 12 quarts of this stuff. Also I have a 2001 regular cab 3.9 dakota witht he 3.56 gears in the back. How do I know what gear oil to change to and how much? My truck didnt come with a owners manual. If someone knows this info off hand rather than me having to buy a owners manual. Also if this gear oil causes more noises or anything else, is there some kind of return or refund policy???
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2/17/2004
20:17:27
| 2001 DODGE DAKOTA 3.9L --- Amsoil Synthetic Oils
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Troy,
I hope you are still around. I sometimes check back thru old threads to see if I missed something. I was using the Forum Search for "Fluid Capacity" and saw that I never responded to your questions. Here goes:
2001 DODGE TRUCKS DAKOTA 3.9L 6-cyl VIN Code X
CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........4.0 quarts[1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........14.0 quarts
Automatic Transmission, 42RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, 44RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, 46RE Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, A45RFE 4WD Initial Fill..........6.6 quarts[2][3]
Automatic Transmission, A45RFE 2WD Initial Fill..........5.5 quarts[4][5]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
42RE..........10.0 quarts
45RFE..........14.0 quarts
46RE..........10.0 quarts
Manual Transmission, NV1500..........4.6 pints
Manual Transmission, NV3500..........4.2 pints
Differential, C205F Front..........3.6 pints
Differential, with 7.25 ring gear Rear..........3.0 pints
Differential, with 8.25 ring gear Rear..........4.4 pints
Differential, with 9.25 ring gear Rear..........4.9 pints
Transfer Case,NV231..........2.5 pints
Transfer Case,NV242..........2.7 pints
1. After refill check oil level
2. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all
gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid
as needed.
3. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
4. With engine automatic transmission operating temperature, shift through all
gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid
as needed.
5. DTC'S may be set , reset with DRB III, if necessary
TORQUES for all the DIY Guys
Oil Drain Plug.....25 ft-lbs
Transfer case
Fill Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....35 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission AX-15
Fill Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....27 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission NV3500
Fill Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....14-20 ft-lbs
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DISCLAIMER & TECHNICAL CONCERNS
Specifications contained on this website are based on manufacturers' information and were believed accurate at the time of publication. Always compare fluids and lubricants that were installed in the vehicle with those replacing them during service. Never install more fluid or lubricant than what is considered adequate according to gradients on dipstick or level of filler hole. Models introduced midyear may not have the same specifications as those produced earlier. This was provided for informational purposes only. Please refer to your owners manual for information.
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Eye_Trip
Dodge Dakota
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7/23/2004
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SPAM !!!!
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TuckerLudlow
Dodge Dakota
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7/26/2004
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NOT Spam!! This stuff rocks!! Drained my Mobil-1 last weekend and replaced it with Amsoil 5-W30. Went from 15-16 around town to 19 and have yet to see what the road mileage is going to be. Local NAPA store carries the stuff. Tranny and rear end fluid replacement will be next. Warranty on mine ran out today (watched it roll over about a mile from the house), so I'll start making some other mod's now.
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7/27/2004
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... use Amsoil and attrack pretty women ...
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