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J and J Auto
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11/14/2003
12:20:00
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 Subject: Arleys 3.9 to 5.9 pics
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Lets all give Arley some thanks for the pics and
a great job droping a 360 in a 1995 4X4, 1999 360
Job well done Arley
We are still working on some mid range stumble
Arley is having but the comp needs a little time
to learn otherwise Arley has done an excellent
job and this is one nice looking Dak
Be proud of our fellow Dak owners
Larry
J&J Auto
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thundpar1986
Dodge Dakota
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11/14/2003
23:04:35
| RE: Arleys 3.9 to 5.9 pics
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I am one jealous guy
I have a 1994 with a 3.9L
How much did all of that run you???
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shkhzrd
Dodge Dakota
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11/14/2003
23:56:47
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Ditto!!! This is my next big project. Did you go from a 42RH to a 46RH or did you keep the 42RH? I found a kit that supposedly enabled the reconfiguration from 3.9L hardware to 5.9L hardware but I'm really interested in problems associated with the conversion or "lessons Learned" type experiences.
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/15/2003
14:45:19
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The 360 was installed with the V6 trans just the
flex plate was changed,
A 95 360 mopar performance computer was used with
a 95 wire harness
Every thing just bolted right up, the 3.9 5.2 and
360 5.9 all will bolt right in place of each other
there is nothing else needed to swap
The map sensor was replaced and after getting
some miles on it the mid range stumble problem
disipeared
Larry
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sicminds
GenIII
11/15/2003
22:38:47
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Lesley
GenIII
11/15/2003
23:44:49
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Thanks for posting. I'm going to be doing this swap too, eventually ($$$ keep holding me back). So, you believe the tranny will hold up? I plan to swap that too eventually. I bought a mopar torque converter as well. I've also been told that I should swap the rad.
Right now, I am going to install the windage tray, then get at the cam, roller timing chain, water pump. I have new lifters, just need to get pushrods. Heads are off being rebuilt with 1.6 comp cams rockers. This is taking a while, but I think it will be worth it...
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake,
Not installed: 5.9 litre 360, posi & 3.92s, M1 2bbl , 52mm TB, 1.6 roller rockers, ceramic JBAs. , KRC 210x cam, mopar perf valve covers,
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/16/2003
16:52:50
| RE: Arleys 3.9 to 5.9 pics
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The trannies will hold up but I would recomend a
TransGo or Mopar shift kit to firm up the shifts
and reduce heat also a cooler is a good idea.
What kills the trannies is heat if you control the
heat they hold up fine on a V8.
My stroker is putting more HP through than the 360
and with almost 90,000 miles on the trans still
no probs, I do have a shift kit with a 1600 stall
converter
Larry
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crzyanimal
Dodge Dakota
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11/16/2003
21:42:16
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Will the 5 speed be able to handle the extra hp and tq of a 5.9?
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crzyanimal
Dodge Dakota
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11/16/2003
21:44:00
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Will the 5 speed be able to handle the extra hp and tq of a 5.9?
2001 3.9 5 speed only mod lowered 4 inches
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Lesley
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11/16/2003
22:30:11
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You have a stroked V6? Interesting, never talked to anyone with one before. I know of some stroker kits for the sixer that just came on the market last year, but they are really pricey. It's good to hear that your tranny is holding up (42RE?) since that is a swap that I would like to put off as long as possible. A shift kit is in the plans. Did you have to put in a custom torque converter for the 360 swap? I talked to Wayne at APS precision, they make one that will mate up my existing tranny to the 360, but again, it is pricey. I have a mopar torque converter, but I don't think it is compatible with my 42RE.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake,
Not installed: 5.9 litre 360, posi & 3.92s, M1 2bbl , 52mm TB, 1.6 roller rockers, ceramic JBAs. , KRC 210x cam, mopar perf valve covers,
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dodgeboy
Dodge Dakota
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11/17/2003
01:04:09
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Lesley
Just completed the v6/auto to 318/5speed swap in a friends 1997 dak last weekend. It was really easy to you the existing v6 wiring, not really woth the couple 100 for a v8 harness. Some parts of the harness could use to be lengthend but I got away with out it. I'll have some pics here soon to post on dto.
-greg
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/17/2003
02:16:23
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No by changing the flex plate you can use the
same V6 torque converter. That is what was done
on this swap.
The only real diff in the wire harness is the 2
missing injector plugs that just like dodgeboy
said are fairly easy to add to the V6 harness
and you save more like $300 they wanted for a
V8 harness. That is also what was done on this
swap, when I mentioned 95 harness it was because
the 360 was a 99 and the #7 and #8 injector wires
were just added to the exsisting harness
You must remember this was a 4X4 and the engine
is off set to the right about 2 inches in these
trucks, on a 2 wheel the are in the center and
yes you can also bolt up a V6 5 speed right to
a 318 or 360 by using the V6 flywheel
The swaps are a lot easyer than most people think
everything is vertualy the same V6 318 360
Arley will also be adding the M1 intake in the
future just wanted to work out any bugs first
and the only one found was the mid range stuble
that is almost completly gone after putting
some miles on it and giving the comp a chance to
learn, Oh there was a new map sensor put on also
Larry
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Lesley
GenIII
11/17/2003
08:38:33
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That's good news about the flex plate.
My 360 came complete with wiring harness,
so that isn't a problem.
Greg, I'd like to see those pics.
Larry, you should visit DTO, lots of nice
people, no flamers.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake,
Not installed: 5.9 litre 360, posi & 3.92s, M1 2bbl , 52mm TB, 1.6 roller rockers, ceramic JBAs. , KRC 210x cam, mopar perf valve covers,
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IntenseDak39
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11/17/2003
15:33:53
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Lesley,
you will not need a new Radiator... you have the same one as the V8's.
Larry,
I am curious as how the V6 torque converter and flexplate are doing. Arent the 360's externally balanced and the 3.9/5.2 internally? and if you switched torque converters, did the V6 one get balanced?
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/17/2003
21:56:30
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I know the older 360's you needed to add the bal
weights or they would shake at idle like a miss
if you used a 318 trans behind a 360 or vise versa
the 360 converter having the weights and the 318
did not
not sure on the newer ones but Arley says it
idles pefict, I think they changed that on the
newer motors, but no complaint of a rough idle,
I also wondered about that, but no shake
Larry
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Andrew
Dodge Dakota
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11/18/2003
11:15:57
|  Want to know what i need for V8 conversion
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I have a 99 dodge dakota 4X4 with a 3.9 5spd and id like to know what i need to put in a 318/360 id like to keep it fuel injected depending on cost i need to also know what kind of brackets like motor mounts and pulleys. I dont have a lot of money and dont want to spend to much the more stuff i can reuse the better any help will be appreciated thanx
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/18/2003
12:02:42
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Same mounts same pullies just need to add the V8
computer and 2 more injector wires to the harness
Larry
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Lesley
GenIII
11/18/2003
12:07:14
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Larry, is the flex plate simply the one for a
360?
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake,
Not installed: 5.9 litre 360, posi & 3.92s, M1 2bbl , 52mm TB, 1.6 roller rockers, ceramic JBAs. , KRC 210x cam, mopar perf valve covers,
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Andrew
Dodge Dakota
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11/18/2003
13:42:07
| how do i add the injector wires to harness?
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ok i know i need to add injector 7and 8 to harness. id like to know how and wear u add it in the harness. and is there a certain year 318/360 motor to look for?
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J and J Auto
GenII
11/18/2003
21:47:32
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For your 99 any 318 360 96 or newer will work
non EGR manifold
The flex plate from the V6 was used V6 converter
and trans.
You need a wire diagram to see which pins to add
the wires for #7 & #8 injectors and the V8 comp
of course
Just change the flex plate motor mounts and bolt
the sucker in
Larry
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ben daily
Dodge Dakota
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11/22/2003
08:40:32
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so how much did you say that it costed??
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