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10/22/2003
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I have a 2002 Dodge Dakota 3.9L V6. I have installed an Air Intake, Performance Muffler, Jet Chip stage 1, Bosch +4 Platinum Spark Plugs, Performance Spark Plug Wires, and a 180 degree Thermostat. Is it possible I have acheived at least 200hp. If not what mods would you recomend. I dont have loads of money to spend cause im dropping my truck this weekend.

Also would a high flow cat make my exhaust louder? Which do you recomend.

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10/22/2003
10:11:46

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i recommend you get a V8 throttle body and crower 1.7 roller rockers. That would get you closer.



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10/22/2003
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thanks for the suggestion. Does anyone know how much that would cost. I dont wanna spend a redculous amount.



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10/22/2003
10:35:19

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the rockers are around $350 and you can find some good deals on the throttle body at junkyards, ebay, and www.car-parts.com

just ask around... there is usually someone selling one.



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10/22/2003
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Hello there Tom I have a brand new 1996 318 throttle body for sale that will work on your 3.9.. I posted that I had one for sale and I was told that I had it up for to much money so I lowered the price to what I guess they are going for...

I will sell it to you for $120.00 that includes shipping and handling plus insurance.. If your intrested you can email me at BCSDutcher@webtv.net Cya Slick



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10/22/2003
23:52:09

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Why the f u c k would you try to rip him off? He can get a v8 TB for 100 shipped from SAM. Ridiculus. Slicken Fishen go f u c k yourself



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10/23/2003
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Hey I dont know what they are going for but I and trying to ask for a fair price, to bad you cant say that to my face, then we could see were you would be standing or where you use to be standing.. LOL little bitch Cya Slick



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10/23/2003
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kill your selves faggots



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10/23/2003
09:01:53

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Hey Guys, thanks for the help, but i have a question. I thought the 5.9L throttlebody was the only compatible throttlebody with the 3.9L.



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10/23/2003
09:33:49

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most of the 5.2 are just like the 5.9. There are a couple that are just a hair bigger... but they both will bolt on the same.



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10/23/2003
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Hey guys sorry for the post I put on here in responce to that moron, but I have no idea what these throttle bodies are going for and you get these idots talking trash to ya..

I just get pissed off when you get these boys talking big behind there computer.. I should not respond to there trash but damm, this forum really needs to be moderated so you can make these kids act like adults or there gone..

This site has a lot of good info from the guys that really know there stuff or the guys that have tried something and it did not work and will save us all some money and time..

Well keep up the good work to the guys that are really making a diffrence in helping others.. Cya Slick




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10/23/2003
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O.k. guys. I want to know something. Which would be better for my 2001 Dodge Dakota 3.9L: a twin turbo charger set or a supercharger? (Remember that I use this for daily driving) I want to get the most boost without killing my gas mileage. Can you help me?



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10/23/2003
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The superchager loads the engine all the time.

A turbo will go under boost at mid rpms and up.

Also a single turbo of the correct size is great on a V6.



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10/23/2003
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What size turbo do you think would do the trick?



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10/23/2003
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I have been doing a lot of resurch on turbo and
S/C

I am begining to bend towards S/C because I would
not need to play with the exh

At 1800 rpm the Eaton M 90 only takes 1/3 hp to
rotate the twin screws and you can uptain 14 lbs
of boost, runing this unit with 8 lbs and an
intercoller would net around 75hp gain.

Also you gain right off idle and at 2000 rpm it
really jumps

Larry
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10/24/2003
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O.k. I looked at Eatons web site and the M 90 was pretty impressive, but do you think that the 112 would get me more boost for my money?



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10/24/2003
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how you going to get the eaton to bolt up to a v6 ???? it won't sit on the factory intake !



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10/24/2003
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LOL

How do you hook up a Eaton M 90

Take a look at how they are set up on some
vehicles, they are not or need to be bolted
directly to the manifold.

They make some real nice covers to bolt to the
output side that you can run a round tube
right to an air hat.

The only tuff part is making a braket to mount
the unit and run the belt.

I bid on one on Ebay for $250 but did not win it
sold for $275, was not fast enough.

There were 2 M 90's Eaton on Ebay last week, I
also found a used Kenny Bell for the 318 for
$1700 they use the Wipple blower made in Sweeden

I think this is the way I am going to go on my
truck and save the head ache of fabing a custom
Exh. With an inter cooler 3" tubes on the intake
side to and back from the cooler.

Kenny Bell has stoped work on the Hemi set up
because he is to busy right now with the SEMA
show coming up.

When I put the S/C on the hemi I will put some
pics up.

The price on the 5.7 Hemi with the intercooler
he quoted me $4900 and he said should be ready
by late Dec early Jan

Larry
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10/24/2003
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still looks like it would be more trouble than it would be worth



y not go with a ATI procharger with intercooler



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10/24/2003
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They make a real nice cover to bolt on the output
side that converts it to a 3" round same thing
for the intake side so all you would be doing is
fabing some 3" mandrel bent tubes to hook it up
after its mounted.

Another thing you will have to take control of
your timing and fuel and add a 200 gpm inline pump
to run during full boost so you don't run lean
and melt down.

They say with an intercooler you can run stock
timing but somehow I just cant see that on the V6

There are lots of blowers out there its just the
one I was looking at because I like the twin screw
design over the rotor design.

Brennan also makes a S/C
http://www.brennanracing.com/supercharger.html

Here is some info on the Whipple blowers that
Kennt Bell uses
http://www.coloradocobras.com/whipple/about-whipple/whipple-twin-screw.html

The twin screw is what you used to see on the old
chevys and hemis.

Did you ever get a chanse to see Jesse James
choped coup with the 1969 factory 426 hemi drag
motor 8 sec street car with a blower and a 4 speed
he says he just keeps it around to scare the crap
out of his friends.

Jesse James custom choppers in california

Not sure what I will end up with this is all in
the dream stage right now, wanted to hold off
untill I get my KB S/C on the hemi right now on
the dyno showing over 500hp he is still breaking
some computer codes and tunning the unit

But it seams to me it would be a lot less work
than fabing a whole new exhaust system to run 1
or 2 turbos on the V6

Larry
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10/25/2003
00:45:17

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Tom

Nice truck and web site.

PS: You may want to change your "hot air intake" into a "cold air intake" by inclosing it in a box that is open only to air from the grill area. This way it won't suck in all that hot engine air that robs your engine of power.



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