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1/30/2002
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Ok..
I was just watching speedvision and there was an informercial on about dual lube for oil,tranny,gas treatments. All looked good, has any one tried it? If it lubes so good, do you think it could take care of the whine my power stearing pump has been giving me?
is it worth it?
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bernd
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1/31/2002
00:58:23
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It's junk.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9905/duralub2.htm
While you're at it....
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9909/prolong.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9904/motorup5.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/9607/slick.htm
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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hotplate
Dodge Dakota
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1/31/2002
14:19:59
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thanks bernd
good thing i didn't buy it.
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alex
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1/31/2002
15:14:30
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Slap me around all you want, but I used ProLong in my 1992 V-6 club cab from about 105,000 mi to the day I sold it at 168,000 mi. I put it in the engine at every oil change, and because the AX-15 tranny used 10w-30, I put it in there, too. I put synthetic 75w-90 in the diff. I did the tranny and diff both at one time. But, at least ONE of those ingredients increased my gas mileage by 1.5 mpg on the highway. I could maintain 75-80 mph with the windows down in summer for about 6 hours and make 22.5 mpg. With the mods I had done, that's pretty damn good, I'll say.
That's the 3.9 motor, with V-8 tb & port-matched intake manifold, Comp Cams roller tip 1.5 rockers & pushrods, Perma-Cool electric fan, Dynomax 3" exhaust, 3" cat, 2/3 Western Chassis drop kit, K&N drop-in filter, a soft tonneau cover, and the 3.20 open rear.
I saw the Pro-Long infomercial years ago, and I didn't believe it was worth a poop. That was until I was at the Southern Nationals and saw three different Top Fuel teams dump 5 bottles (each) of ProLong into their motors as they oiled them up. Kenny Bernstein used it, Amato used it, and I forget who the third was....
That was enuff for me to believe. However, I have yet to try it in my 4.7 motor.
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bernd
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1/31/2002
19:45:50
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Alex...why 1.5:1 rockers? The factory ratio is 1.6:1.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
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2/01/2002
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I thought they were 1.5's on the 92's.....hmmmm.
Whatever they were, I didn't step up the ratio. I just went with factory ratio, but got roller-tips. Less friction to ease the strains on the old arthritic camshaft.
Damn, Bernd, now you've got me wondering. Heh.
And while we're on the subject of hokey crap that does/doesn't work, how about your DEI Radiator Relief vs Redline Water Wetter vs Royal Purple "Purple Ice"......
Do these REALLY lower the temp on a 1:1 water/glycol mix? I have jsut removed my clutch fan (4.7 motor) and I am putting in the 180 T-Stat, but I am still nervous.
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bernd
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2/01/2002
09:27:43
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As with all of the additives you mentioned, they just help in keeping the temperature more stable and provide quicker warm-ups. From the folks i've spoken to a the track (who use the DEI as well)...they only run water and DEI).
I've run Water Wetter and wasn't impressed with it...the DEI keeps my temp at 165 degrees all day long. Water Wetter didn't. (My case is with a 160 degree T'Stat, Flowkooler Waterpump, and Black Magic-150 electric fan...no factory fan at all.) ** Never tried the Purple Ice stuff **
The big plus from the DEI is that it's non-toxic. (Obviously in a street driven vehicle the coolant is toxic due to the anti-freeze.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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2/01/2002
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I thought the 180 t-stat was the minimum to prevent the "not warm enough quick enough" MIL from popping up? How are you getting away with 165 degrees?
Are you running coolant with the DEI or only water?
The Purple Ice ad says that it will reduce the temps with coolant in the mix, but it is much more effective while running ONLY water. At least they admit to it.
So you may have seen that thread to CW aboutfan tricks on the performance board? I'm going to wire up an adjustable thermostat switch in line with the power source so that i can cut the factory electric fan on at 195 or so. Any ideas on how those factory fans hold up? It's really only supposed to be an auxillary fan.....
This is my 24,000 mi per year daily driver.
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Rattler
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2/03/2002
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I have seen that most commercially available additives dont work. even synthetic oils dont work any better than a 80 cent a quart generic oil. There for I only use the cheapest oil i can find and have been with no problems. However, Ive seen a not so known lube work pretty well on a bearing test stand. I dont know the chemestry, but the product goes by the name of Motorkote. There was a instore demo and I stood there for 2 hours and watched. Something like that where i can see with my own eyes was convincing enuf. I put it in my v-6, but dont know of any differences as I dont have access to diagnostic equipment or dynos and such. I havent noticed any fuel milage difference either, but I think thats only cos my engine is starting to get tired (110,000 and no overhaul)
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bernd
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2/03/2002
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Alex: I'm running a 160 t'stat in my V6 due to the boost and nitrous. It doesn't trip any codes on the '97 V6 but does run a bit on the rich side at idle (for me that's now bad as I'd rather be rich with the nitrous and blower than lean). Stick with a 180 T'Stat. Yes, I run a 80/20 mix of coolant with the DEI additive. The 20% coolant is just enough for protection and keeping it from freezing in my area. I don't need the boiling point at 250+ degrees because I watch my temp constantly. If it gets close to 200 degrees, I let her cool down...and if the temp is above the 200 mark, something's wrong.
DEI claims the same thing as well as Water Wetter...they work best without coolant but we all need the coolant for protection on our daily drivers. Running without the coolant is for the race vehicles as they change the water in their (very small) radiators quite often.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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2/04/2002
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I talked to the guys at Barnett Performance (Atlanta) right after I installed my 180 t-stat and a 1:1 glycol-water mix and they said it really only affects things by about 3-5 degrees if you have coolant in the system. I figured since I didn't want to drain the system again, I'd just go with the adjustable relay so I can cool it in the staging lanes. I overfilled the reservoir bottle BTW and now it spits coolant all over the battery every time I turn left. Oh well. Guess I better take care of that before I get to the track again. HeeHee....
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