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Tony
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1/13/2002
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 Subject: Bernd...
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I was thinking... I hear about u running in mid 14's and i think that's awesome and everything... but you have a supercharger and nos helping you out. Don't you think it should be running a HELL of a lot faster!?! If your gonna spend all that money on that stuff and only getting mid 14's out of it, don't you think you should've spent money on building it up first and then the external stuff? It just seems to make more sense to me. I'm not trying to pour water on your fire or anything just I would like to see you doing all this and running like at least 12's. Just my 2 cents...
-Tony
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bernd
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1/13/2002
01:59:27
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Not really. If you look at the weight of the vehicle and the displacement trying to move it, it's actually doing pretty good.
Factory for the V6 SLT/CC (2WD) is right about 17.0-17.4 seconds in the 1/4 mile. This is with about 135-140RWHP pushing about 4100 lbs...again, factory. I dyno tested the truck last week and she's putting down 258-260RWHP with a weight of 4150lbs (with me in it).
This is with the stock heads, cam, (very mildly modified intake manifold), and stock PCM. I've got the new cam and heads ready but need to finish up the new short block. With those completed, we're looking at approximately 13.5-13.8's. You'll need some serious power adders (or weight reduction) to get the V6 into the 12's. (Nick Kramer did it...but with about 18# of boost with a turbo and cam/head work to match. He ran a 11.76 @ 123mph in a '98 V6.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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bernd
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1/13/2002
02:03:09
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Forgot to include: I'm only running a 40HP shot to "supercool" the intake charge. I'll probably turn it up to about 60HP with the new motor but will be switching that over to a wet-shot instead of the dry-shot i'm running right now. That'll take some tuning as the FMU already richens up the mixture under boost and the fuel jet needs to be leaned out on the nitrous. If I do run with the 60HP shot, i'm looking at low 13's (13.2-13.5). Remember, those are estimates and I won't know for sure until the engine is done and has made a few runs (after break-in) at the track.
No offese taken at all...i've been asked that a few times. :)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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IntenseDak39
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1/13/2002
10:13:36
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Bernd is doing really good...In the Sport Truck which did the Dakota RT coverage, the fasted RT ran in the 12's with a supercharger and nitrous.. considering we have 2 less liters (and Bernd has a CC)...he's is doing great!
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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dakkid
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2002
12:02:38
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can i get that much boost out of an S/C or if i want my dak in the 12's (so i can keep up with my dads car) or do i need a turbo?
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dakkid
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1/13/2002
12:02:51
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can i get that much boost out of an S/C or if i want my dak in the 12's (so i can keep up with my dads car) or do i need a turbo?
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chris
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1/13/2002
19:16:40
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where can i find a list of what nick kramer did to his V6?
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bernd
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1/14/2002
00:32:54
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Yes, you can...but the standard Powerdyne won't handle it. If you plan on running 15+# boost, get yourself a Vortech T-Trim...they can handle up to 24# boost.
You can find out what Nick did to his V6 on the DragTruck website: http://www.dragtruk.com
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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dakkid
Dodge Dakota
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1/14/2002
20:12:27
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if i want my dak to go under 12 would it be best to do so with S/C or turbo?
what would i need to do to keep that 24 lbs from detonating?
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bernd
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1/15/2002
23:30:06
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Blower or Turbo, proper cam, proper head "massaging", forged pistons, much better rods, intercooler (a little nitrous wouldn't hurt but not required).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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dakkid
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1/16/2002
14:55:42
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whats a blower?
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bernd
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1/16/2002
19:39:06
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A supercharger forces additional air and fuel into the engine. This occurs when the engine is under full throttle or under load, not at normal cruise or most normal driving. A large displacement engine makes more power than a small displacement engine because it can convert larger amounts of fuel and air into energy. A supercharger allows a smaller engine to do the same thing but only when extra power is actually needed.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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mesa
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1/17/2002
00:28:22
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Why dont they make our trucks full time positive traction?
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dakkid
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1/17/2002
22:27:23
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wait but so were the old school things over the hoods that were called blowers kinda like superchargers?
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dakkid
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1/17/2002
22:27:37
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wait but so were the old school things over the hoods that were called blowers kinda like superchargers?
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dakkid
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1/17/2002
22:32:25
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does anyone make a real blower?
like over the hood?
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bernd
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1/17/2002
23:15:30
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DakKid: The term "Blower" is a slang term for Supercharger. Centrifugal or Screw-type...they both do the same thing and are both "Real Blowers". Centrifugal is easier on the engine as it build boost gradually (like a turbo) and keeps building boost even at higher rpm's. The screw-type blowers make gobs of boost right out of the hole but lack on top-end. BTW: Those "Old School Things" were originally used on Diesels...modified for gasoline engines.
Mesa: Limited Slip, Sure-Grip, Trac-Lock, Posi, they're the same thing...different terminology used by different manufacturers.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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mesa
Dodge Dakota
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1/18/2002
09:30:41
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how does limited slip work and how do i know if i have it?
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bernd
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1/18/2002
11:24:29
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Both tires engage instead of just one (easy explanation). Check your glove-box or dealer sticker...if it says "Sure-Grip" or "Limited Slip" on it, you've got it.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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dakkid
Dodge Dakota
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1/18/2002
20:50:01
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whoa if we dont have that were just
spining one tire?
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bernd
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1/19/2002
00:21:28
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It's a little bit more than just that, but your sticker will tell you.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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dakkid
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1/19/2002
13:27:46
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ok well when i get it back from the body shop i'll look
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MESA
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1/19/2002
23:44:18
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WHERE HAS EVERYBODY BEEN PUTTING THE IAT ADJUSTER INSIDE THERE TRUCK?
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Tony
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1/20/2002
02:17:40
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Bernd u siad the 97's have a speed gear for the spedometers? where can i buy a new one to fix my speedomoeter. Thanx
-Tony
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bernd
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1/20/2002
10:00:01
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No...the '97 and older models have the gear in the transmission. The speedometer is electronic.
You can buy the gears from Dodge...they come in sizes from 30-40 tooth.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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NYSubDak
Dodge Dakota
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1/20/2002
13:45:12
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Bernd, I think the "over the hood" thing that Dakkid was referring to was probably a tunnel ram or one of those MrGasket Blower intake heads with the butterflies.
Wade
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Goodyear
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1/20/2002
14:24:43
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Geez! Is this a random question post?! Poor Bernd. Yeah he's an extremely generous guy but you would think people would think to look something up themselves for once.
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bernd
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1/20/2002
17:10:05
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Nah...it doesn't bother me at all.
We have to start somewhere.
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RGoodyear
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1/20/2002
17:20:04
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Yeah i knew it didnt bother you so i took it upon myself to be bothered for ya. Now dont take that as me being hot and bothered!
I used to be very patient....i wonder whats changed.
Oh and since these are all random questions....is my IAT adjuster on the way yet? ;o)
Nah I really dont care or expect you to remember. Its cool out now anyhow.
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bernd
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1/21/2002
23:08:56
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Hehehehe...."Hot and Bothered". LOL
Yes, it's on its way...USPS had a "Holiday" today - Go figure.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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1/28/2002
22:24:29
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Another random question for bernd.
What is the highest shot you think a stock 3.9 would take before a Three Mile Isle type melt down? on a fairly regular basis not a one time shot.
Oh and thanks for your advice, there should be more selfless persons in the world sharing what they know and love.
94 RC SB, home ported V8 TB,
home modified intake, home made
ram air and Flowmaster 3" in
to 2-2.5" outs to 70 Cuda tips
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mike
Dodge Dakota
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1/29/2002
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i am interested in getting my heads ported or bigger cam. i have a 99 s/c #6 dak w/ jba headers cat back exhuast 50mm t.b. i want to now if it is worth the money. what do you suggest i do next. speed sweaks is great you are doing a great job eveything i ordered has been great thanks for the help
mike
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