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4/05/2003
23:48:52

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I have a 99 3.9L ext cab dak and was wondering if there were any upgrades or something of that sort for the A500 tranny. mine is almost shot and don't know if I want to repair or replace it. thanks in advance


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4/06/2003
07:37:07

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You can get shift kits for it, but if it's almost shot, you'll wanna do an overhaul on it. If no one has told you before, Dakota's are one of the most expensive vehicles to do transmission repairs to, and That's based mostly on how hard it is just to pull the damn thing out. So, your lookin at anywhere from $1500 - $2300 bucks for a good overhaul.

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4/06/2003
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DAMN that's expensive. I'm not 100% it's shot but it jerks between shifts and hangs in gear when i punch it. I was wondering if maybe it was just the bands?

thanx for the help

Digital Dreamer
1999 3.9L dakota ext cab
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4/06/2003
11:08:12

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It sounds like the bands just need some adjusting... My cousin owns a transmission shop here in Michigan, My truck is up there right now, He said all I have to do is pay his price for the parts, and If I do all the work, and he shows me how to do it, i don't have to pay anything else... Tomorow, I'm going back up there and I'm gonna do a complete overhaul on my transmission... I pulled it out last week Wednesday, man, it was an 8 hour job (2 of which were just spent talking, hehe) but the other 6 was actual work, and we had just gotten the tranny out when I left... I thought he was kidding when he said Dakotas are one of the hardest trucks to do, but believe me, he wasn't... lol

Anyway, Good Luck on your tranny... If you can manage pulling it yourself, you'll save a WHOLE LOT of money... Labor is what brings the bill up so high, and with these trucks, theres alot of it...

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4/06/2003
11:23:21

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makes me glad that one of my friends is a technician for the dealership where i got my dak, and it makes me feel better to know he's a certified tech. the best service for the price of a friend. but thanks for the tip, looks like I'll be dropping the tranny



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1999 3.9L dakota ext cab
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4/06/2003
15:02:22

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well it just happened again, got hung in gear when i hit WOT, I hope I can figure this out soon. I really can't afford a new tranny, any help will be appreciated. Is it my bands, TV cable, do I need a shift kit, please help guys...




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4/07/2003
12:49:03

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I'm not sure if the A-500 is included, but I know that several of the auto's have faulty governor pressure sensor's. This will cause the tranny not to upshift when at WOT. Also, a severely misadjusted TV cable can cause a loss of upshift at WOT. The adjustment procedure for the TV cable is attached.

The bullentin is below:

A/T - Engine Bucking/Surging at 5,300 RPM

NO: 18-19-98
GROUP: Driveability
DATE: Apr. 10, 1998
SUBJECT: Vehicle Bucking During Wide Open Throttle Acceleration
MODELS:

1996 + (AB) Ram Van
1996 + (AN) Dakota
1996 + (BR/BE) Ram Truck
1998 + (DN) Durango
1996 + (ZJ) Grand Cherokee
1996 + (ZG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)


SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

Some vehicles may experience bucking during wide open throttle (WOT) acceleration. The bucking occurs at approximately 5300 RPM. This condition may be caused by reaching the high RPM fuel shut off rev limit before the transmission can shift into the next higher gear and is most likely to occur with high electrical loads (high beams on, heated back light, heated seats, radio, HVAC blower on MAX etc.). During high current demands, the generator may emit electrical noise that can affect the transmission governor pressure sensor output. If this occurs, the transmission may not shift properly to the next higher gear under (WOT) acceleration conditions and therefore reach the fuel shut off rev limiter. This may be seen most often between the 2-3 shifts but can also be experienced between the 1-2 shifts.

DIAGNOSIS:

Using the Diagnostic Scan Tool (DRB III(R)) with the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures Manual, verify all engine/transmission systems are functioning as designed. If Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's) are present, record them on the repair order and repair as necessary before proceeding further with this bulletin.

NOTE : ONLY PERFORM THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE SAFELY ON A HIGHWAY OR ROAD OBEYING ALL POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND LAWS.

Attempt to duplicate the condition by switching on all accessory loads and driving the vehicle with WOT accelerations through a shift sequence to see if the engine will reach the fuel shut off rev limiter before the 2-3 or 1-2 shift is made.

If the bucking condition is experienced at approximately 5300 RPM before making the appropriate up shifts, switch off all electrical loads and repeat the procedure. Repeat the procedure with the electrical loads on and off a second time. If the bucking occurs with the electrical loads on and does not occur with the loads off, perform the Repair Procedure.

PARTS REQUIRED:

1 - 56041403AA, Governor Pressure Sensor

REPAIR PROCEDURE:

This bulletin involves installing a newly designed governor pressure sensor.

(1) Following the procedures in the applicable service manual, replace the governor pressure sensor with p/n 56041403AA (See picture below).
(2) Check the throttle valve cable adjustment. Make appropriate adjustments, if necessary, following the applicable service manual procedure.



TV cable

GENERAL INFORMATION
The transmission throttle valve is operated by the valve body throttle lever. The throttle lever is actuated by a cable connected to the engine throttle body lever. A lock button at the engine end of the cable provides for cable adjustment.

A correctly adjusted throttle valve cable, will cause the throttle lever on the transmission to move simultaneously with the throttle body lever from the idle position. Proper adjustment allows simultaneous movement without causing the transmission throttle lever to move ahead of, or lag behind the throttle body lever.

CHECK

Turn ignition key to OFF position.
Remove air cleaner.
Verify that throttle body lever is at curb idle position. Then verify that transmission throttle lever is also at idle (full forward) position.
Slide cable off attachment stud on throttle body lever.
Compare position of cable end to attachment stud on throttle body lever:
Cable end and attachment stud should be aligned (or centered on one another) to within 1 mm (0.039 inch) in either direction.
If cable end and attachment stud are misaligned (off center), cable will have to be adjusted as described in following procedure.
Reconnect cable end to attachment stud. Then with aid of a helper, observe movement of transmission throttle lever and lever on throttle body.
If both levers move simultaneously from idle to half-throttle and back to idle position, adjustment is correct.
If transmission throttle lever moves ahead of, or lags behind throttle body lever, cable adjustment will be necessary. Or, if throttle body lever prevents transmission lever from returning to closed position, cable adjustment will be necessary.
PROCEDURE

Turn ignition switch to OFF position and shift into Park.
Remove air cleaner.
Disconnect cable end from attachment stud on throttle body.
Verify that transmission throttle lever is in idle (full forward) position. Then be sure lever on throttle body is at curb idle position.
Insert a small screwdriver under edge of retaining clip and remove retaining clip.
Center cable end on attachment stud to within 1 mm (0.039 inch) and release cable button.
Install retaining clip onto cable: housing.
Check cable adjustment. Be sure transmission throttle lever and lever on throttle body move simultaneously and as described in cable adjustment checking procedure.




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4/08/2003
22:05:58

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If you want to upgrade your tranny go to a 518 or a 618(also called a 46rh,46re,47rh and 47re. the RE modles are electronic governor and the rh modles are hydrolic governors.). The case is a little bigger but it will fit, and they are a lot stronger. The 618(47re, 47rh) has a stronger set of planatarys in it. If you put one of these babies in, you won't have to worry about it going out again. Right now I am putting an a518 in in my 1991 dakota to take the power of the 380 horse 360 that I am putting in it. It is going to cost about $2000 for the tranny and a build job, plus about 560 for a high performance torque convertor. You could get away with less cost because you are not running as much power. A stock 518 would be more than enough.




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11/22/2007
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Ya, but will anyof those work with a 3.9L?



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