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bernd
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12/15/2001
02:33:06

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WooHoo....

After some minor "tweaking" on the fuel system, we've got a new best time for the V6:

14.68 @ 95.01mph

Bear in mind that this is still on the factory heads, intake (mildly modified), and factory camshaft.



1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.68 @ 95.01mph

cbsdakota
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12/15/2001
05:09:12

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With heads, manifold and a cam, you should easily be in the 13's. Maybe high 12's!

Project QUIKV6

bernd
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12/15/2001
11:41:02

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I'll need some slicks pretty soon as the wheel slip is starting to affect the 1/8 mile times. (9.46 @ 75.07mph)

Yup..with the cam, modified heads, slicks, and speed-limiter removed (finally), i'm calculating right about a mid to high 13 in the 1/4 mile.


1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.68 @ 95.01mph

LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota


12/15/2001
14:55:48

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Whats the approximate hp differance between 6# and 10#??



TigerDak
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12/15/2001
15:16:14

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SLOW DOWN BERND! YOU'RE TOO FAST DANGIT!



Lesley
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12/15/2001
16:01:13

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Woohoo!

97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
Awaiting Installation: Borla catback, V8 R/T TB

dakkid
Dodge Dakota


12/15/2001
22:15:16

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what have u done (mildly) to your intake?

what else could u do ?



bernd
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12/16/2001
10:22:51

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Heheheh...one can never have enough power/speed. :)

DakKid: Look at the Modified Intake" from this link: http://lonestar.texas.net/~bernd/DakotaPics.htm
(This was still with the 19# FMS injectors...they're been replace with 24# versions but the modification to the plenum divider, runners, and "cleanup" work is what was done.)

LilBlack: About 40HP.


1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota


12/16/2001
11:28:55

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40!!!really?? wow!!!
i've got to get me a supercharger!!!
the only thing i can beat now is volkwagon new beetles.
must save money!!!(should have got a used dak)



LI Blackdak
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12/16/2001
14:10:36

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bernd one more question...ok 3or maybe 4
for 2000 v6s do you need to to get the the 00-01 powerdyne for 5.2/5.9 for $3200 or could i get the 97-99 for $2600?
also how much is the 10# or 9# conversion pulley?? and is it safe to use
and while im on the subject important is it to get headers and catback before hand???
thanks



stealwings
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12/16/2001
17:20:23

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Right on! Are you running Nitrous on those runs? Greg

'98 Emerald Green Dak Club Cab SLT, 3.9L, Auto, 3.55 gears, Fabtech 3" Suspension lift w/31" tires
48mm F&B throttle body
MSD-6 Offroad with Blaster Coil,Autolite 3923s and MSD 8.5mm wires.
Flowmaster 50 series Cat back
Jet Chip Stage II, soon to get PCM flashed and sell Jet
K&N Gen II Intake
ASP Two pulley change out (Crank and Alt)
Soon to get: Crowler 1.7 rocker arms and Bosch/Ford motorsports Injectors.




joe
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12/16/2001
18:27:36

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silly question for bernd. Why don't you drop a 5.9 v8 in that thing and modify from there? It doesn't seem like money is a problem for you based on what you have done already :-)



dakkid
Dodge Dakota


12/16/2001
21:36:19

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sorry for askin this again but

would i get more HP from a twin turbo or a supercharger
$$$ problem set aside
also with turbos what mods cant be done?



Nirami
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12/16/2001
21:56:26

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Joe. Because they are trying to find out what they can get out of a V6. If you check out the project trucks page at Speedtweaks, you can see that they have more than one Dakota being worked on. And I am pretty sure he has a V8 that they are modifying. Don't quote me though.

- Mikel



joe
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12/17/2001
08:08:30

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ahhhh i see grasshopper.



bernd
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12/17/2001
09:33:42

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LIBlackdak: Yup...40HP "Sneeky Pete" Dry Shot. Keeps the air charge nice and cold (and this builds very useable power). No, you don't have to get the '00+ model, but it comes with the MSD 6AL-BTM. The '97-99 model doesn't. WIth the 6# pulley, you shouldn't need the timing retard (some do though) but with the 9#+, it's safer to use some form of timing retard. We just swap the pulley on the blower before shipping to the customer. The 10# pulley is a custom piece - $45 extra. Definitely get all the basics done first before bolting on a blower - TB, Headers, Exhaust, 180 T'stat (at minimum).

StealWings: Yup...40HP Dry Shot

Joe: Because after the new longblock goes in (cam/heads/pistons/etc.)...she'll be more than capable of running low to mid-13's. This is what the average Nitrouse'd R/T is running.

DakKid: HP wise, it'll be about the same.

BTW: Yes, we are working with one other person (not our sponsored truck) and are trying to get the most out of the truck WITHOUT changing the PCM (using 100% stock/factory PCM). We're shooting for mid 11's (which isn't unrealistic). Currently, the project truck is running 12.88 @ 111mph on street tires.









1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

dakkid
Dodge Dakota


12/17/2001
19:39:29

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"K&N Gen-II Intake System w/Super eRam Installed"
whats the SUPER eRAM?

on your site above



bernd
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12/18/2001
01:08:47

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Oh man that's old. ;)

The Super eRam was a dual (very high volume) electric fan that pushed about 750CFM when ON. With the dual eRams, I was able to get 1psi boost under WOT. (This was about two years ago.)

http://www.electricsupercharger.com



1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

jcr7079
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12/18/2001
01:14:39

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dakkid,
The super e-ram is a little "turbine" that fits
in-line with your intake. The company claims
that it can make appx. 1 pound of boost. here
is the website to check it out at:
www.electricsupercharger.com, it is a little
pricey for 5- 15 hp
Josh



jcr7079
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12/18/2001
01:17:30

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Sorry Bernd we must have posted at nearly th
same time, dam this internet connection.

Oh yeah Bernd, what is the new NX kits price?
Ive bought everything else through you, might
as well buy this also.:-)
Josh



stealwings
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12/18/2001
19:04:41

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Hey Joe. Other than the injectors of which I'm waiting to see if Lesley or anyone else gets any improvement out of it, I'm done. Plus I'm happy with what I have. Problably kick your ass off the road. The reason I say Nitrous is that some brackets don't let you use it. Greg



bernd
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12/18/2001
22:22:47

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Josh: Email me offlist for the pricing.

Stealwings: What brackets don't allow Nitrous????


1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

Lesley
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12/18/2001
22:48:00

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Bernd - why is it so difficult to get a pcm flashed, I'm surprised that with the amount of people wanting it done that there aren't more places that can do it. Is this something that Speedtweaks may offer in the foreseeable future?
I am going down to Texas to visit a friend in the spring, I could just throw it in my suitcase! :)

Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
stainless Borla catback, V8 R/T TB,
Coming: FMS fuel injectors

bernd
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12/18/2001
23:37:08

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Working on it... ;)


1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph

joe
Dodge Dakota


12/19/2001
16:53:57

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steal wings, what is this "hey joe" B.S. "probably kick your a$$ of the road" I never said anything about racing, I simply asked Bernd a question. Grow up.



stealwings
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12/20/2001
13:15:59

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Geeze, I'm just saying not everyone runs nitrous. That's all. And Joe, take a chill pill. I was responding to what you said about Bernd and nitrous. I know he runs nitrous. Just wondering if he did on those times. That's it. Sorry for any confusion. And also I have a question for you Grasshopper(Bernd). My 48m Throttle body doesn't seem to run right. At throttle it runs great but at idle and warmed up, tap the throttle and it goes to 3000rpm and drops. I changed out the IAC valve and no change. You said one time that when you put on your Throttle body you had to tweek the Map sensor and Idle Air Control Valve. What did you do to fix this? Thanks Greg



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