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87dak
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12/11/2001
00:58:28

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Hi, I was wondering what intake options there are for a 87 Dakota with carbeurator?? Anyone sell kits or can I make a home brew?

Also, anyone know what the stock carb is on the 87's? (I think the 87 was the only model that had a carb) I'm not even sure what its called, I think like a single chamber or baffel or something? How would I go about upgrading the carb for better power? I'm still learning about all this so please forgive my ignorance :)



TigerDak
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12/11/2001
19:33:36

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You will need a K&N home brew for the air intake. You can always get your carb worked over by a professional speed shop. They can clean it up a bit and give some extra power. Also, you can install a 1" carb spacer. This is in the same exact shape as the throttle body gasket, and is 1" piece of aluminum. Any metals shop can make one for you if you provide the gasket so they know the shape of it. You can always get an aftermarket igintion system, headers, free flowing cat, free flowing muffler, and custom pipes for awesome power and performance.

I have a 1989 so we're about the same.



87dak
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12/11/2001
20:27:15

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Cool thanks.... I'm not really going for super high performance or anything, this is a daily driver truck I am just looking to keep in good general shape and maybe get a little better power out of. It's got 150k on it so I'm not trying to beat on it hard or anything, and I don't really plan on spending much money on it, other then neccesary maitenece stuff.

Do you know of any web sites where I can go to learn a bit more about carbs and cleaning them and so forth? What is the 1" spacer? How does it work/what does it do? K&N sells a "home brew" intake? Doesn't that not make sense? (I thought home brew was make-it-yourself) Or did you mean I would need to make the pipe and stick a K&N filter on it?

Anyone with a 87 have pics of their engine bay? Just trying to get a feel for stuff. Thanks again



87DakBuilder
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1/13/2002
12:25:17

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Hey 87, I have the same exat problems that you do. I have a Gen I Premagnum engine that is Carborated. For starters it is a 2 barrel carb, just so you know. And A spacer makes the Gas spray harder some how, it is an old trick from Back in the days. I'm not really sure how it works , but it does. My dad told me that it is sort of like the high rise set ups back in the days. None the less, the best and most efficient mod we can do short of get a magnum v6 is, make it breath easier. There are headers and aftermarket Katback exhaust for our trucks. As well as ignition upgrades, and posibly a gold air system from K&N. Haven't checked into it yet, but I'm sure it is possible to mount a cold air system on our trucks. Burnd would be the person to ask more info on that though. Good luck and take care.




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1/22/2002
22:35:43

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HOLLEY MODEL 6280 AND 3 OTHERS USED. DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO FIND REPACEMNET PARTS LIKE THE FEED BACK SELINIOD. A GUY IN NY BOUGHT UP A BUNCH 125.00 EACH. MY 87 IS 115 HP MODEL (cALIF) THE SPACER HELPED . JACKING TIMING UP TO 23 B-4 USE 89 OR 93 OCTANE, SPLIT FIRE PLUGS,NEVER USE AC OR FORD PLUGS IN A CARB GEN ONE ENGINE, I,VE HAD ALOT OF RETURNS WITH PROBLEMS.. ALSO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL AIR FILTERS, HYPE, REMOVE THE ONE U GOT, THATS THE BEST YOUR 3.9 WILL BREATHE B-4 U SPEND $ ON ADVERTISING, REMOVE THE RAIN FLAP ON GRILL AREA TO FREE UP THE AIR INTAKE TO THE SNORKEL. ALOT MORE OFF THE LINE PWR, CUT THE BROWN WIRE GOING INTO CARB, BYPASSES FEED BACK SELNOILD. MPG GOES DOWN BUT U CAN PUT A SWITCH ON IT TO ACTIVATE AT ANY TIME...I,VE GOT MORE WILL POST LATER.



IntenseDak39
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1/23/2002
03:03:39

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just to get more detailed with your search for another intake...the mopar performance catalog has a high performance intake manifold for the 3.9 that would allow the use of a 4 barrel.. don't want a huge four barrel though..not enought cylinders..Edelbrock has a set of headers for the older premag v-sixers that cost around $90 in the summit racing catalog. get another camshaft and a good muffler and that would be a decent package...by the way..if you can buy a mopar performance catalog ($5), the back shows you some build up options for the earlier premag...

good luck,
intensedak39

98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !

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4/21/2002
13:06:21

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PUT A 340 6-PACK IN IT . .BETTER THAN A JAP MAG



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4/21/2002
21:19:28

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hmmmmm cant carbed engines use....


BLOWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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4/21/2002
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The 318's used the holley 6280 in 87 also and they are a lil better than the one that comes on the truck because my 6280 was messed up good so I got one off a 318 and cleaned it and rebuilt it and it looks the same but when I put it on the truck was alot stonger. A friend of mine says that it prolly has bigger jets or something.



FazDak
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4/22/2002
10:02:56

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Get a big Holley 2bbl, 350 maybe 500 (500 will probably be too big though).

Get 1.6 roller rockers for any premag small block V8 (you'll have to cut the shafts down).

Good ignition, MSD, coil and all.

Jack your timing up to 38 degrees total @3000 rpm and if you can afford it a set of headers and good 2.5 or 3" exaust system.

You will feel the difference from those few mods.

Good luck, Scott



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11/09/2002
10:51:20

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that mopar 4BBL intake part #4452114 has been discontinued for several years now. good luck finding one, I've been looking for one for over a year & no luck. you'll have to locate a used one somehow.if you have any luck or if anyone out there has one they'd like to get rid of please contact me I'm about to give up on it. way underpowered 3.9L V6 is ready for retirement otherwise. please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ken ward
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11/09/2002
10:59:45

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that mopar 4BBL intake part #4452114 has been discontinued for several years now. good luck finding one, I've been looking for one for over a year & no luck. you'll have to locate a used one somehow.if you have any luck or if anyone out there has one they'd like to get rid of please contact me I'm about to give up on it. way underpowered 3.9L V6 is ready for retirement otherwise. please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Nick Bukrey
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11/11/2002
01:06:17

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Hey guys, Just wanted to tell you that a good thing for the intake is to just go to the good old 14 inch round edelbrock air cleaner (or similar) w/ a KN filter. You will need and adapter for the carburator to fit in the bottom of the cleaner but you can find them in any kind of decent shop (mr. gasket sells them i think).
I have been really happy with it, also just by doing a cleaning job to the carburator does wonders. Just some starter tips.

***One other big problem that i am runing into is that when i get on it good right off the line it really holds back. I am not sure if i am just overloading it with gas or there is something wrong??? Anyone with similar problems speak up, i am trying to find a cure.
But for now i just have to live with it....

****Not sure about MPG either, i am stumped, if anyone knows what the factory was for it, i would like to know.

Thanks in advance for any input, its appreciated



HEY "DAWG" POST WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE WE ALL WANT TO BENIFIT!!!
Thanx guys.



Nick Bukrey
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11/11/2002
01:51:45

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One more thing....What is the part number on the split fire spark plugs you guys are using for the 87 Dak? Thanks again




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8/19/2003
21:01:36

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i just got a POS 87 dakota w/ a 3.9L how much would i have to mod to do a 318ci V8 swap?



Richard
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8/29/2003
19:37:06

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I have an 87 Dakota with a Holley 2bbl.
I can't find a rebuild kit which includes
the choke rebuild items. Anyone know
a company selling choke rebuild kits. My
truck is running very rich because of choke
problems and a rebuilt carb is $400. Are
there any known replacement carbs for
the Holley. My truck has 175k so i'm not
going to spend $400 on a rebuilt carb.
My truck has decent power but gets poor
mpg because the choke is improperly working.



J and J Auto
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8/29/2003
20:14:49

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Check kohler dodge they may have a 4bl manifold
sitting on there shelf.

P4452114 INTMANIF FWHS 1 $ 295.00 $ 200.10

Yes they do show they have one in stock

http://www.worldparts.com/kollerdodge/

Just put the part # in the search field

I have seen a few of the old 3.9's with this and
a 600 or a 580 cfm vacume secondairy holley and
they ran very well

Larry
J&J Auto





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8/31/2003
01:28:56

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I got an '87 dakota v6 w. carb with 165,000 on it. I don't have a lot of cash but I like it because it is rather unique. I would love to have a little fun with it. RIght now it is all out factory and there is an exhaust leak somewhere. I also think its running really rich because of the terrible mileage. I figured headers would be a fun place to start and someone above mentioned i could find them for $90. Also, I'm not sure what kind of carb it is, I'm thinking a factory 2 bbl.
Like I said, I would love to make the thing into a rocket. Performance filter is where I will probably start. Would a 4 bbl carb be a good idea? Also, what about a blower? That would just look crazy awsome, even though I'm not sure how the actually work. Any comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks




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9/29/2003
06:55:04

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HOLLEY MODEL 6280 AND 3 OTHERS USED. DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO FIND REPACEMNET PARTS LIKE THE FEED BACK SELINIOD. A GUY IN NY BOUGHT UP A BUNCH 125.00 EACH. MY 87 IS 115 HP MODEL (cALIF) THE SPACER HELPED . JACKING TIMING UP TO 23 B-4 USE 89 OR 93 OCTANE, SPLIT FIRE PLUGS,NEVER USE AC OR FORD PLUGS IN A CARB GEN ONE ENGINE, I,VE HAD ALOT OF RETURNS WITH PROBLEMS.. ALSO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL AIR FILTERS, HYPE, REMOVE THE ONE U GOT, THATS THE BEST YOUR 3.9 WILL BREATHE B-4 U SPEND $ ON ADVERTISING, REMOVE THE RAIN FLAP ON GRILL AREA TO FREE UP THE AIR INTAKE TO THE SNORKEL. ALOT MORE OFF THE LINE PWR, CUT THE BROWN WIRE GOING INTO CARB, BYPASSES FEED BACK SELNOILD. MPG GOES DOWN BUT U CAN PUT A SWITCH ON IT TO ACTIVATE AT ANY TIME...I,VE GOT MORE WILL POST LATER.

The oxygen feedback solenoid, I noticed you say here to cut the brown wire to disable it, does this stick it open or shut? I'm guessing then that it is not needed to run the motor?
I'm just wondering because I took my carb to work to put it in the cleaning tanks we use in our die cleaning department, and as I was tearing it down I ended up breaking the casting where the jet screws in (don't ask). I can't find one anywhere. and a new carb is 340 bucks I was just wondering if I can get away with plugging the hole were the jet goes. I guess this all depends on which way the solenoid is when this wire is disconnected.





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10/02/2003
21:29:23

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all 3.9L v6 used in the dodge dakotas are 6280 2bbl holleys w/ a feed back solenoid. the carb part #3467 i got a Walker rebuild kit for mine and im doin that as a project in my auto tech lab. the hardest part about rebuildin it was gettin the SOB off the intake manifold. to many things to take off but ill keep you posted on how it goes



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1/20/2004
16:44:56

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6280 CARB FOR SALE. LONEDAWGSILVER@AOO.COM



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