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Sasquatch
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11/25/2002
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Hey Guys,
I thought my clutch was acting funny, seemed to have to touch the floor for my Dak to start lately. Then today after somed driving I parked her and then went about my business. After I started her and tried to put her in reverse, then I heard the lovely sound of gears grinding... I tried letting out the clutch a lil and easing it in as works sometimes, no dice. So I tried 1st gear, again the sound of grinding gears, well actually a lot of resistance and had I continued I would have heard the gears grinding (I went through 3rd, 5th and reverse like that). However, it slipped into 4th just fine... So, I tried reverse again, and like magic, it shifted just fine. I drove and hour back to my apartment and had no trouble.
It's a 2000 5spd 3.9L RC 17,700 miles, any suggestions? I have an extended warranty... Whatever this is, will it likely be covered?
Thanks Ya'll
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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11/26/2002
19:32:11
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Today she is shifting fine... I don't know WTF was going on yesterday... Started practicing clutchless shifting today cuz I'm not leaving my truck up here while I'm at home for Thanksgiving break, no way. I'm gonna drive her home with or without that clutch.
I'm still open to suggestions and opinions... Let me know WTF is/went wrong yesterday.
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Todd W
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11/27/2002
00:44:36
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Hm... I'm pretty sure we have hydralic assist clutchs in these things... maybe you have low fluid and an airbubble formed? That would cause what you described, and it could work it's way out of the line. I'd check the fluid level... it's likely on the firewall somewhere down around where the clutch pedal actuator comes through. :0)
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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11/27/2002
10:00:54
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Thanks Todd, I'm gonna check the fluid level out as soon as I get home. Still debating on whether to bring it to the dealership or not.
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spitfire9137
Dodge Dakota
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11/29/2002
10:54:11
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Todd is right we have hydralic assisted clutches. He also correct that your problem is low fluid, and that you might have air in the lines. If you checked it, was it fine, does it work correctly now or what?
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roughneck
Dodge Dakota
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11/30/2002
22:01:27
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Coming home from offshore my Dakota 92' pick-up with a 3.9 L a500 series transmission was really slugish sift gears. When i got home i changed the trans filter and fluids. I regained the power and it shifts like new, but my problem is that it is acting like the overdrive isn't kicking in. Does anyone have any ideas about the problem? Any help is greatly needed.
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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12/02/2002
13:16:19
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This is weird...
I checked the level and it looked good. Took the cap off to release any bubbles or whatever then screwed it back on. As I'm putting it back on, some fluids leaks out from under the cap due to the dipstick type thing on the bottom of it. Well, it shifted what I thought was better than it had in awhile. Drove about 100 miles after that, all good. Drove to class this morning, still shifting fine.
After class, I pushed the clutch to the floor and it hesitated starting. After it started I tried shifting, ground 1st. Tried reverse same. Eventually worked it into 4th I think then I could shift to 1st and get back to my Apt.
How can I fix this crap? I mean the fluid was high I can't add anymore... I guess I'll just have to bring it to the dealership... Damn gonna have to wait a week, cuz I got finals next week.
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Eggman
GenIII
12/02/2002
13:20:12
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Did the truck move any like it was starting in gear w/o the cluth depressed?
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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12/02/2002
13:23:07
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Nope wouldn't move at all.
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mad42
Dodge Dakota
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12/03/2002
13:45:38
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Sasquatch, you're lucky, my Piece of Crap trans only lasted 250 miles from new before it went out. Shifted into gear but no drive for all gears except fourth (the 1:1). Required a new transmission. Amazingly, they actually replaced it under warranty but they will not fix anything else. You also find out how worthless their "roadside assistance" is. They will haul away your piece of crap to the nearest dealer and leave you there to find your own way home.
These stupid things have a switch to keep you from starting the engine without the clutch depressed. Additionally, the hydraulic clutch is a replace all crap plastic system. They don't sell parts.
Sounds like your clutch hydraulics are going out or the pilot shaft bearing is seizing. If the input shaft is being driven from either source the syncros will keep it from engaging (unless they are not working in which case the gears grind).
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Todd W
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12/03/2002
14:56:53
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Hold on a sec, I think there is a procedure for bleeding the clutch hydralics. I really think you have an air bubble. Mad42 is right, there is a switch that won't let the engine turn over unless the clutch is fully depressed, but I don't see how that's a stupid feature. I've yet to drive a stick that didn't have that feature, and you have to admit, being able to start it -in gear- without the clutch depressed would be one helluva ride...
Anyway... checking my Chiltons manual now (never had to do this on a Dak, did on my old Cavalier though)
Ok, the clutch pedal pedal position switch should be on the backside of the actual clutch pedal, in the cab. You may be able to adjust it, but it doesn't look like it from here...
As for the hydralic system, according to the manual it "has been bled of air at the factory, as individual components or rebuild kits are not available seperatley. There are no provisions for adjustment of clutch pedal height or freeplay"
However, it -does- state that "fluid level will actually rise as the clutch wears", which strikes me as odd because from what you described, the fluid resevour had more fluid in it than it should have (the leakeage when you put the cap on). Have you been using the clutch to hold the truck in position on an incline or at a light?
You may want to try pumping the pedal (engine off) a few times, then checking the level. Also, follow the line from the Clutch Master Cylinder to the Clutch Slave Cylinder (under the truck) and make sure there are no leaks or kinks. If that fails, your pretty much going to have to take it in and describe the problem. They may tell you they can't find a problem, make sure they run a complete diagnostic on the clutch and it's associated hydralic system.
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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12/03/2002
19:27:25
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help. I don't hold my self with the clutch, but occasionally I do have to gas it and go up an incline while slighly depressing the clutch... or the rare peel out. Oops.
I'll check the fluid tom. if it stops raining. And am I wrong, but at quick glance, is the clutch master cylinder the same as the brake master cylinder? I checked the round reservoir next to the master cylinder on the top of the firewall. I have another resevoir that is rectangular in that general area too.
I gotta get out the manual and chack the rest of that like ya'll suggested. Although it did shift fine all day today...
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Todd W
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12/04/2002
00:01:51
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It's the little round guy up above the master cylinder and towards the fender.
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joe_himself
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2002
01:52:52
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How come everyone says you cant start it without the clutch in.. i can start mine without having to push the clutch in.. . i like it for the ease of if im workin on it i dont have to get in and push the clutch to start i can just reach in and start.. makin sure its outta gear first tho.. and if your dont do that your an idiot anyways..
joe_himself
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2002
09:51:32
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Thanks Todd, I checked the right reservoir then.
I think I'm just gonna hold out till the holidays on bringing it to the shop. I have a few other things that need to get looked at. Exhaust is rattling and can't keep a nut tight, got 18k haven't had a tune up yet, need an oil change, had to drill a lug and stud out cuz the cap rounded and popped off, then the dealership decided to round off the inside one too... Now I gotta pay to have a new stud put in. Not the kind of greetings I wanted this holiday season... lol
Hmm... just thinking, my power steering went out last year, replaced under warranty. Wonder if I can look into lemon laws...
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Todd W
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12/04/2002
11:11:04
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Sounds like you got yourself one there, Sasquatch. That many items shouldn't have gone bad by now. You might want to at least call the local Dodge Rep and let him/her know you aren't happy with how things are going. Thats a shame though
Joe...
I'd say your clutch position switch is bad, because it shouldn't be doing that.
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Lineback
Dodge Dakota
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12/28/2002
02:02:53
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Interesting topic. I have been lurking for quite some time on this website, when I came across this thread. I have a 93' Dak Sport 3.9L 5speed, with only 80k on it. My father bought this truck new, and I bought it from him. Runs great, but has always started from day 1 without clutch pedal depressed. I can start and go without even touching the clutch. Whats up with that ? I kinda like it, not about to fix it.....
Chris
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Whistler
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2003
16:02:45
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Sasquatch: What did the problem turn out to be? Did bleeding the line help?I'm having a similar problem on my 2000 Dak, 3.9L 4z4, every so often I cannot change directions with the engine running, have to shut 'er off, put it in gear and then start it. Plus the truck lurches when it starts when this is going on.. if I go over a speed bump or something, the problem magically disappears.
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Notbob
Dodge Dakota
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2/18/2004
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I bought My 89 dakota 4x4 used $1,500 best money I ever spent Had to replace Clutch presure plate and throw out bearing. shortly after it started resisting going into first gear without ethier grinding into reverse or shuting off engine first it is getting worse all the time.
looks like slave cylinder to me because I removed the master and slave cylinder,cleaned,flushed and bled them when I did the clutch and the shifting seam a little better but it didn't last though.
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Sasquatch
Dodge Dakota
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2/18/2004
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sorry it's been so long for the update, lol I brought it to the dealership. They decided the entire clutch needed to be replaced... bad throwout bearing... blah blah blah, assumed to be my fault. Claimed probably from driving through deep water, I haven't driven in water deeper than a foot and that was at a crawl and not very long at that... I got all the above repairs done, b!tched about the cost of the clutch and not being under warranty, then the manager gave me 10%, said that was the best he could do. Works great now, I mean it should the d@mn clutch was replaced. Thats bout it, till my fan clutch went out about a month ago, now my Dak sounds like an airboat or something
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