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Tony
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11/13/2001
23:49:57

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Can anyone tell me what too much oil would do to an engine because I think dodge over filled it with a QUART too much from what the dip stick is tellin me. And my engine blew a week ago and I just wanted to know if this could have done anything.



LEE
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11/24/2001
20:31:23

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WHEN YOU OVERFILL TOO MUCH OIL,YOU GET OILAIRATION.THE CRANK WILL HIT THE OIL AND CREATE OIL BUBBLES.THEN THE OIL WILL LOSE ITS ABILTY TO DO WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSE TO DO.THAT IS PROTEC YOUR ENGINE. LEE 98 3.9L



Todd W
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11/24/2001
20:42:54

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Yeah, the oil will foam up and do _real_ nasty things to the inside of your engine...

So Dodge overfilled it and made your engine blow up? Is the dealer still being an ass and saying it was your oversized tires? (assuming your the same guy, to lazy to check)



Tony
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11/25/2001
19:35:31

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yup thats me



Todd W
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11/26/2001
19:48:39

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The dealer didn't stick one of those window decals saying when they did it, and when the next change was, and who did it, on the window did they? If they did, when the dealer tells you that there was too much oil, just point at the sticker!

I mean, what are they going to say? That you overfilled it after getting the oil change? Ha, let them prove _that_.



Tony
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11/26/2001
20:17:22

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But would that cause the engine to blow? They claim that it wasn't overfilled... I sure think it was.



Gary C.
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11/27/2001
06:27:35

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I have a 2001 Dakota that I purchased in April. The first two oil changes I let the dealer do, and both times it was overfilled by a quart. So needless to say I just do it myself now. It's cheaper and I know it's done right. Such a simple task and it still gets screwed up.

Gary
'01 V6 Dakota
'91 Alfa Romeo 164



Todd W
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11/27/2001
20:29:19

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Could it? Yes... but probally not really likely. It'll all depend on driving habits. If you were on the highway and the crank was whipping up the oil to a nice froth... well..

Ever shake up a can of Mt Dew and pop the top? Think something like that... just not as explosive.

Depending on the amount of overfill, the lower half of the engine could have completely filled with the oil-froth. That would drive crank pressure up, and eventually you might blow a seal...

If everything else seems ok, and you know it wasn't something you did (I mean, come on, this is more likely than oversized tires causing it!), then whatever is left, no matter how unlikely, is probally true. Besides, if they were overfilling it, they weren't living up to their obligation as a Dodge Authorized Service Center. I'd be on the horn with Dodge and tell them what you've got, a blown V6 that the dealer won't touch, and proof that they added to much oil to an oilchange.



NiPs
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11/28/2001
00:06:53

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Just one question, how big are your tires? Can you get that size stock? If not does the PCM have a speed setting for the tires size? I am not sure about dak's but ram's can be programmed up for up to to a 270/70 something but no higher. This of course is just really for the speedo but I would assume that the dak pcm and be reprogrammed too.

Okay lets get this straight your engine blew and your dealer is tell you it's because you went to the bigger tires? And you think they overfilled the oil? How did you come to this conclusion?

Is the driveshaft in any way damaged? I just think it's perposderous that they are placing blame on the tires. Maybe get your dealer to explain why the tires could have cause this and get it in writing then talk to an ASE certified mechanic and ask them what's up with his explaination. And if the dealer refuses to fix your truck(assume the mechanic you talked to is on your side) take him to court and collect any and ALL evidence you have that he might have filled the oil too high. Perhaps even get that mechanic to write out what could cause the problems your truck has and get him. Your atterney may choose not to bring this issue up at all if you haven't got good proof as it could backfire and make it look like your not being honest in the court room. It boils down to what other mechanics think about weither or not the tires can cause the damage done. In any way shape or form.





Tony
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11/28/2001
11:35:13

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Well, my tires are 33". There is no way in hell tires blow engines. Trannies... Well, that's another thing. However, I do have stock 3.9 gears in the rear which take off the load from the engine somewhat. There is no way those tires blew that engine. I've had em on for like over 6 months now and it just now happens in nice and cool weather? They said it messed up the timing in the computer or something. I was like give me a break. How many people are running bigger tires and their engines aren't blowin. They are full of iyt and just don't want to pay. I'm gonna nail their as*. I'm getting it in writing why they denied and it's probably just going to say because of the tire mod but they need proof that it caused it to blow or they are breaking the law. If they make up some bull on how it did happen, I'll get writing from other profressionals saying that tires can't do that. I don't think I'll have to go that far though. They won't want to put up with it and will most likely cave. We'll see. They are taking their sweet ass time with replying to my request for it in writing though. FIGURES!

-Tony



Mr.Sleepy
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11/30/2001
16:13:27

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Not to be rude, but I don't know why anyone would take their truck to have a oil change done. The dakota is high enough off the ground that you don't even need to jack it up in order to get at your plug. And the damn filter is inside the wheel well. Its so damn easy to do, I change mine in about 20 mins. Look up the correct amount of oil to put in (you can find this in your owners manual) and take pride in the fact that the only mistake that will happen is the one you make. So take your time, learn how to do it, and save yourself some serious cash.



Todd W
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11/30/2001
22:28:01

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I usually do mine, but in the Winter time I let the garage do it. I don't really feel like kneeling in a snow bank while freezing my fingers off for 20 minutes trying to coax cold oil-sludge out of my truck. :0)

Of course, once I move that won't be a problem!



Tony
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12/01/2001
01:58:15

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I always change my oil... But I'm in college and have no where to do it thank you! =P I know lots about our brother daks. I put the body lift on myself, maintenance, exhaust...

-Tony



Mr.Sleepy
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12/01/2001
17:48:49

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Well I stand corrected. If you must use a service center or garage, I suggest checking the oil yourself before you leave the establishment, and demand it drained if it indicates overfill.



DeaPee
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12/01/2001
23:26:43

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I'm not going to type a long story or anything like that, I'm just going to say that dealers suck and can screw up even the simplest of maintenance procedures -- as has been shown above.

Tony:

You didn't state the year of your vehicle, and I don't want to go assuming it's still warranted, but...

If your vehicle is under warranty still then the burden of proof lies on the dealer. They must prove, not only that their actions did not cause the blown engine, but that your actions (over-sized tires) did -- if they can't prove this, then they're responsible. By the way, I don't see them proving that your over-sized tires blew anything.

If your vehicle is not under warranty then the burden of proof lies on you. You must prove that their actions caused the blown engine.

On the other hand, it could just be that you got an engine that was a piece of junk. If that's the case, then I hope it's under warranty.


You can do a search on the internet for Warranty Denial and find some pretty good laws governing the denial of warranty coverage.

Just trying to help --

- Dave
- 01 RC SLT 4x4 3.9 BLACK



Tony
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12/02/2001
15:02:24

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Yea, its under warranty. I know all that stuff and that's exactly what I'm gonna use against them. I'm just now waitinbg for a wrotten statement from then about the denial. Then I'm gonna nail em with moss warranty act. Because i know there is no way in hell tires blow engines. It's bull shi*

Thanx-

Tony



TomL
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4/04/2012
17:19:22

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Over filling the engine by a quart will not hurt the engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would not make it a habit!



tears
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1/24/2014
16:53:34

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Then why did mine go bang bang then die?



cletus
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3/11/2014
01:39:29

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Musta been the dang old timing chaing!



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