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2000dak
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11/03/2001
14:32:35

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Does anyone know of a place where I can find information on a turbo charger for the 3.9?


George
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toxic13
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11/03/2001
17:03:54

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go to http://knightturbos.com i'll try to find the guys email addy, but you can prolly just call the number on the site. they do custom turbo/supercharger setups for just about anything you want. tell them what you're looking for and they'll probably be able to do it.



2000dak
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11/04/2001
17:22:49

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thanks for the help



bernd
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11/04/2001
17:45:41

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We'll let ya know about a complete "Bolt-On" kit within the next 60 days. We've got most of the parts ready (including an intercooler) but need to have all the pipes bent to fit. (It's a twin turbo system as it's easier to make and more efficient than a single.)


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Lattimer
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11/04/2001
19:26:50

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I have some questions on this:

1) What kind of price tag is associated with this setup?
2) What kind of an installation is it? Driveway or professional only?
3) What would be the pro's and cons of a turbo verses a supercharger on a 3.9L Dak.

Bernd--I'm looking for the next step sometime in the coming year, I was thinking a S/C was my only option, but a twin turbo sounds like a more agressive setup. Could you tell me some of the particulars??

Shawn



bernd
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11/04/2001
20:23:29

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If the kit is feasible, probably around $3500-$4000. Same price as a supercharger though.

(1) See above
(2) We're trying to make it a complete "Driveway Bolt-On"
(3) Pros...slightly more efficient - Cons...More heat under the hood

The system we're toying around with is a 9-10# system...same boost level as my Powerdyne (and the Powerdyne ran $2200 when I purchased it last year on a group buy).

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kev354
Dodge Dakota


11/04/2001
20:33:02

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bernd, could you make a manifold for a 98 2.5l? or could you get one made. if so how much would it cost approximately
thanks
kevin



bernd
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11/04/2001
23:10:47

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The adapters for the turbo's are readily available for most stock manifolds...the hard part is having the tubing bent to fit.

If you want to do it yourself...keep it simple and use a Turbo unit with integral wastegate. The electronically controlled units are the best as you can adjust them from your seat (more or less boost depending on your mood.) :)


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DeepDak
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11/05/2001
03:07:44

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I might have to hold off on the NOS and save some more pennies! Let me know the results!

Eli



kev354
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11/05/2001
16:05:01

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bernd where could i get one of these?
thanks



toxic13
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11/06/2001
19:07:13

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bernd, that sounds awesome. and while we're on the subject i was wondering what is the max boost the 3.9 can handle with the stock compression ratio?



jeff
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11/07/2001
13:21:58

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what kind of hp are we alking more than the pwerdyne s/c. also can you have both s/c and turbo



2000dak
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11/07/2001
15:32:12

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From what I understand you can only have either or, Because they asperate the engine with two different methods.


George
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Jacob
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11/07/2001
21:40:04

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Bernd, if you need a test truck, I got one! I have been looking into this as, I am not sure I want to go the S/C route. For that count me in. Is the 9-10lbs boost max, eventually I want to run like 12-14lbs, when at the track.



steveo
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11/07/2001
21:54:23

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bernd that does sound cool, where would you be able to get one of those adapters and how hard would it be to install?
thanks



bernd
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11/07/2001
22:53:02

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The 3.9L can handle 11# without any problems (yes...i've tried that). Probably more than that as the head design is superior to the 5.2/5.9L.

Yes, you can run a Super/Turbo charged engine. Cost-wise, it's not feasible unless you're a professional and have the sponsors (or the money) to do this. There's a lot of older dragsters and other race vehicles that have used both.

The test truck would need to help out with the initial cost (about $1000) and everything would be offered to you at our cost...also would need the truck for about 1 week for fitting and testing.





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2000Dak
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11/07/2001
23:10:25

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Well I stand corrected, so how long before the v6 guru has a working twin turbo set up for us to spend a few month pay on? :) 'cause I can hardly wait.


George
2000 CC v6



DeepDak
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11/07/2001
23:37:52

Bernd, third questions:
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1. What are the chances the turbo system will be smog legal in Cali? Damn visual inspection.

2. How is the head design different on the 3.9? I figured it would be the same, as most the parts are, only v6 size.

3. Is the turbo company out of Texas like yourself? When is the test truck needed by, roughly? I have a month off between classes and family across TX.

Eli





Jacob
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11/08/2001
17:53:38

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I could give you my truck for a week, and the money, only problem is I am in Fl. I you want to wait till x-mas, might be albe to work something out as I will be in Louisiana then for about a week and a half. My email is landrum@dellpro.net



steveo
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11/08/2001
19:47:47

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bernd where could those adapters for the exhaust manifold for a turbo hook up be bought at? and how are they put on? welded?



bernd
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11/08/2001
20:48:10

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2000Dak: We've been working on it for the last three months (design phase)

DeepDak:
(1) Not a chance...unless someone wants to loan un $10,000 for CARB certification testing
(2) Head Bolts and chambers
(3) Yes...and no. We're looking at the testing after X-Mas.

SteveO: Any turbo supplier will have them...we jsut chose Turbonetics and another local supplier as we've got contacts who work there.




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steveo
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11/08/2001
22:27:32

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thanks for the info bernd



Jacob
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11/13/2001
12:54:35

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Yeah keep us posted I am really interested in this. Any idea on performance numbers? What type of turbo are you considering? Integrated or External waste gate? Boost-control?



bernd
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11/13/2001
13:09:31

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Check either on the website (in a few months for the 3.9/5.2/5.9L kit) or you can contact Tom North at: prodog@swbell.net (He's the engineer on the turbo kits...I just take care of the fuel and tuning).


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