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willy
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3/16/2010
10:35:40

Subject: Little oil in filter
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When I changed my oil in my 01 dakota, 3.9, the filter was only about 1/3 full. I removed the filter again after running about 1/2 hour, and it was almost empty. Any ideas what could cause this



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3/16/2010
12:53:34

RE: Little oil in filter
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Was the oil not changed regularly ?
Possible partially plugged 'pickup' screen
or oil pump going bad .
Does it make lifter noise when running ?
What grade of oil ?



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3/16/2010
13:31:21

RE: Little oil in filter
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No lifter noise, and good oil pressure. Since I've owned it, oil changed regularly with 10W30. Would the engine have a built in filter bypass?



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3/16/2010
15:49:02

RE: Little oil in filter
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Sorry I skipped the ESP course,
What brand of filter?

If it's Fram you've found the reason/cause



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3/16/2010
16:05:21

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Yea, both old and new were Fram's. After I removed the new filter to check, I replaced it with a Napa but haven't run the truck yet. Are Fram's really that bad to not even allow oil to get into the filter?



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3/16/2010
16:39:58

RE: Little oil in filter
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They are all cardboard inside (collapse easy)
and have a bypass. What most likely happened is
they collapsed inside and your oil was going
through the filter bypass.

It should not be the pump or screen if you had
good oil pressure. (as you stated)

Wix or NAPA gold are real good filters
(both the same)
No idea who makes the standard napa filters.

Keep watch on your oil and filter now.
(you have been running oil without filtration)



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3/16/2010
22:18:38

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Wix and NAPA are made by Champion Labs (NOT the spark plug company).
Purolator is also good.



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3/16/2010
22:21:28

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I forgot-another thing about the Frams filters is the crappy sealing of the ant-drainback valve.
Back in the late 80s Ford owners were complaining about lifter rattle on startup. It turned out the problem went away when Fram Filters went away. The filters were draining overnight.



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