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Four20
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9/25/2009
16:02:32
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hey guys cyl 1,3 are showing right at 140 on compression test im still working my way thru others but since they seem to be the problem i wanted to get that posted. can the baseline timing be checked with timing light?
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daddio
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9/25/2009
17:13:43
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Yes, pull the fuel pump relay and crank away with the timing light hooked up. I think it should 10BTDC but, check your manual to make sure.
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Toddhater
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9/25/2009
20:04:45
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Todd Bouton is a SH!T B@G
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Four20
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9/25/2009
20:55:16
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Cyl 2,4,6,1,3 135-140 on comp test cyl 5 was at 130-135 psig these test were done with a cold engine cause it wont run long enough to get to temp.
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9/25/2009
21:12:16
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Four20 did you have the distributor shaft out of this motor?
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Four20
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9/25/2009
22:17:46
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no didnt touch it. i checked its tight
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Toddhater
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9/25/2009
22:52:18
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Four20
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9/25/2009
23:27:48
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jeez can i not put a resistor in the o2 cicuit to fool the pcm to seeing a balanced emision? i dont wanna fry a 60$ sensor even tho it needs replaced, especially if it dont correct the problem.
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9/25/2009
23:38:25
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jeez can i not put a resistor in the o2 cicuit to fool the pcm to seeing a balanced emision? i dont wanna fry a 60$ sensor even tho it needs replaced, especially if it dont correct the problem.
Ya you can. Go to your local auto parts store and pick one up. They will know exactly what you need.
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9/26/2009
00:04:14
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"Four20 did you have the distributor shaft out of this motor?"
The reason I asked that was because of the injector sync.
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Four20
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9/26/2009
00:30:16
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no i didnt remove the distributor.
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Four20
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9/27/2009
22:29:03
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Well i think im getting closer.
unpluged both upstream o2 sensors
reset pcm
engine ran smooth for about 20 min maybe not even that long but finally got a distinct odor coming from my exhaust.
so i cut the muffler loose from the main cat
truck began running smoothly
the cats are still in the exhaust i just dropped muffler out
so is cutting out the cat necesary a friend mentioned something about rodding it out, but hes in the used car business and likes to make em look untouched. maybe ill take one of these long paddle bits i got to it. i really dont wanna drop the transmision mount to cut it out.
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Four20
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9/28/2009
14:51:39
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well the cat is now takin care of and i got some new codes but still have a loss of power. yes the o2 sensors are still unplugged. i got a code
p-0123 tp sensor
p-108 map sensor
p-0132 o2 sensor
p-0152 o2 sensor
pre cats are still cookin. right side was glowing today.
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Toddhater
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9/28/2009
15:15:32
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Todd Bouton is a SH!T B@G
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daddio
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9/28/2009
17:02:59
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What year truck is this? How many miles? Was #5 plug black with soot/ carbon or oil? Getting rid of your third cat did nothing. Did you change the PCM or is it original to the truck/ engine?
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Four20
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9/29/2009
00:22:20
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2002 this is the original pcm 180,000 miles
plug 5 was sooty and black
seems 1,3,5 is running lean now and 2,4,6 are now sooty always wet.2 is the better looking of the right bank.
5 was doin the same but not anymore
maybe the problem followed the injectors afterall
truck does idle better without the 3rd cat.
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Four20
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9/29/2009
19:16:02
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Re-connected the o2 sensors and the truck wont even pull itself up the road.
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Four20
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10/01/2009
23:43:26
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ok ive been reading up on my issue more. The only constant code i am getting no matter what i do is code p-0132
chiltons list 2 possible causes.
1.excessive fuel pressure
2 leaky injectors or stuck injectors
Now it appears that the rich running has followed the injectors from 1,3,5 to 2,4,6
Now in a different section it list other possible symptoms
■O2 signal tracking (wet/oily) in connector causing a short between the signal and heater power circuits
■O2 ground circuit is open
■O2 signal circuit is open
■PCM has failed
still appears that that o2 sensor or the wiring is bad as the 2,4,6 bank is running rich with the 1,3,5 injectors also leading to either 1 or all bad injectors. all injectors read 14.1 ohm, but one upon powering did have a distinct difference in sound than the other 5. this was a power up of the solenoid to test for leaks. no injectors showed any sign of leaks under the pressure of the fuel pump, but as the pump does not stay running with the key on there is no way for me to know without having them evaluated by a qualified shop. of course IMHO they will work differently under the vaccum of the engine, and may leak in that environment.
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10/02/2009
00:09:27
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Clunker!
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well
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10/02/2009
13:48:24
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Hey you unplugged the pcm and checked all plug an connector pins yet?
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