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DAKOTA04
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11/06/2008
20:54:38

Subject: 3.7L precat removal?
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has anyone with a 3.7 removed the pre-cats yet? if so did you notice any differance?



Bob Lincoln
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11/07/2008
08:42:19

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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The difference in pollution? Or the violation of federal law that gets you a $2500 fine?



daddio
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11/07/2008
09:35:13

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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bob, i think that's $25,000.00 fine. if you must modify the exhaust for performance improvement, replace the stock cat with a better flowing aftermarket version instead of removing it.



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11/07/2008
11:33:25

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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$2,500 for an individual; $25,000 for a shop.

High-flow cats work as well as no cat, and are legal. Either way, you're only gaining about 2-5 hp out of a couple hundred. Not even enough to feel.



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11/08/2008
00:36:20

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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I removed the precats and cat convertor and picked 15 hp.



DAKOTA04
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11/08/2008
07:43:53

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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i am well aware of the fines but if you read right it says pre-cat, i have a high flow cat on there. so therefor i did not break any law.



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11/08/2008
08:26:26

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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You did. The law does not specifically exempt your pre-cats.



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11/10/2008
08:58:30

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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Any tampering with, or removal of any emissions device, is covered by the law.



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11/10/2008
21:21:29

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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gut the cat.......it looks stock but sure as hell aint.



wow
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11/10/2008
21:26:07

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i removed 120 lbs of exhaust and replaced it with gibson ceramic headers and ceramic exhaust.....welded 02bung nuts where the 2 cats were and put in highflow magnaflow cats




mario
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11/10/2008
21:28:25

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gutting them is still easier and a hell of a lot cheaper. yeah your gibson exhaust set up is nice and im sure it sounds great too but its very pricy



Bob Lincoln
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11/11/2008
08:42:37

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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Not cheaper if you get caught. Are you offering to pay his fine? 8)



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11/11/2008
08:51:44

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i have 02 sensors and cat monitors and went thur emissions and they look to see what i did and they were impressed...oh by the way mr lincoln .003 hc .0002 n/o passed with flying colors magnaflow highflow cats....you dont know what your talking about....get caught if you have a straight thru...i can see that but not what i have done ,,,,its more legal than stock was....i had more hc when it stock ........



Bob Lincoln
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11/11/2008
12:30:56

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I do know what I am talking about. It doesn't matter if your mods lower emissions (usually not the case. Removal or disabling is illegal. Mods have to be certified by the EPA. Section 205, page 240 http://epw.senate.gov/envlaws/cleanair.pdf



MrLincoin
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11/11/2008
20:47:12

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I`m very very sorry my son Bob jr.is such a usless prick!!!!His mother is heartbroken that he is gae!! The Lincoin family






Abe Lincoln
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11/11/2008
22:04:53

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The cats on my 3.7liter v6 kept going
meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow,

meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.

I removed my precats and cat, I got tired of hearing them.
Will I get terminated for doing so, I afraid of Bob Lincoln, I think he works for the EPA-FBI-CIA-NSA. He's liable to shoot me.



Bob Lincoln
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11/12/2008
08:44:27

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Check your spelling, maybe they will let you back into first grade if you get it right.

This is why you are losing members to Chrysler forums that moderate and ban this crap. I know of at least two members who decided they wanted to share automotive help and not a playpen.



wow
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11/12/2008
20:14:14

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did you eat lead paint when you were a kid? Do you want my address so you can look for yourself....Idiot..duh....the dealer is the one who did the emissions testing......and the dealer would throw me out if i did anything illegal fool.....dont answer me .....please....throw your book away for a minute......and read what u wrote ...

I do know what I am talking about. It doesn't matter if your mods lower emissions (usually not the case. Removal or disabling is illegal. Mods have to be certified by the EPA. Section 205, page 240 http://epw.senate.gov/envlaws/cleanair.pdf

all of the mods that i did are epa approved!!!!they stuck a hose up the exhaust and it was greenlights all the way around////



Bob Lincoln
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11/13/2008
08:31:49

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Someone's been eating lead paint for sure, whcih causes behavioral problems and hostility.

If you can read, you will see in http://epw.senate.gov/envlaws/cleanair.pdf
Section 203, 3A and 3B page 238, that mods to emissions control systems are not allowed. It doesn't matter whether your dealer did it or allowed it to be done. It's still illegal. Some dealers don't know or care.

Anger, insults, and childish stamping of your feet will not change what is written there. You can violate it or not - that's a choice that any adult can make (if you are one).



wow
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11/14/2008
19:16:25

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throw your book away ........theres no way you can get caught fu k in as s breath...go find a new room to kick and stamp your feet in,,if illegal aliens can get social security and amnesty ......well a as s kicken v6 is not a problem in this america of mine......



Bob Lincoln
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11/17/2008
08:37:52

RE: 3.7L precat removal?
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Well, that's what your America is all about - it's only wrong if you get caught.

And my comment about childish behavior is borne out. My 3-yr old daughter is more intelligible anf mature than you.



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