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2/18/2008
22:45:50

Subject: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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MOBIL 1 API certified & Warranty approved!
amsoil is neither!

goes to show just how full of sh1t your local scamsoil spamming idiot is (he also need to learn how to spell)

in our service department you will find Mobil 1
you will NOT however find any amsoil products!
why? quick easy answer
for warranty approval you need to use a API certified oil

while amsoil claims they "meet and exceed" API standards fact is they don't!
if their statement was true then you can bet
your last dollar they would go and get API certified!


Dodge requires use of API certified oil

Heck every car/truck maker i have ever seen requires it
not using what they say to use for motor oil?
then they do not have to and will not honor your warranty

what the hell does everyone think the reason is amsoil couldnt get API certified?
yes to much zinc
and the reason they use so much of it is because its cheap and makes a low grade oil slippery
and they never fixed the issue
because they couldnt
they have to keep the product cheap
do you know how many people get a % of every bottle you buy????

the old saying you get what you pay for comes into play here

you are not getting a quality product
you are just paying a % into multiple people in their pyramid scheme

......................................

(posted by Mel)


Stan said prove him wrong

Well
it was a very easy task here you go!
(all Mobil 1 oils are API approved and meet & exceed warranty standards) Amsoil is NOT !

I wrote exxon mobil
"Are your Mobil 1 extended performance oils API approved? "

reply attached and contact Matt yourself
for further info

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Yes, they all are.

--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL

-Matt Jacob


.............................................

ALL our oils (except race series oil)
IS API certified! & warranty Approved!


SCAMSOIL ISN'T

now watch them Lie - watch them cry !
Then they will run and Hide !


http://www.amsoil.com/articlespr/article_xl7500.aspx




Q: AMSOIL will be using a different formula for its XL-7500 Motor Oils. Why did AMSOIL change the formula?

A: Our XL-7500 oils are the oils of choice in the retail oil change market, and primarily because of warranty concerns the customers in this market require API-certified oils. In order to obtain API SL/ILSAC GF-3 certification and still remain cost-competitive with the other oils sold at retail oil change outlets, we had to change to Group III basestocks. To obtain API certification with our top tier basestocks would have priced our Dealers out of the market.


Gee kinda funny when steve put everyone down for using M1 cause in his words "its group 3 not real syn"

but when amsoil is group 3 it somehow becomes "True Syn Oil" LOL


.................................

"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."

top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?s=4be9f2a48ca25c99e87d8935cdc00294&t=1933616



Mobil 1 factory fill in what ???

Mobil 1 factory fill in Corvettes !

"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."

top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1933616


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Mobil 1 Factory Fill for Bentley


"Mobil 1 Selected as Exclusive Factory Fill for Bentley Continental GT Coupe; The World's Leading Synthetic Motor Oil Selected"

http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/transportation-equipment-mfg-automotive/5650091-1.html



- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"Mobil 1 Selected as Factory Fill for Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_August_13/ai_106557779



Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2008
08:06:49

RE: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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I am SORRY.

Cory Eye_Trip is now flaming the V6 Forum.


Cory recently escaped from the mental wing of a local hospital.

Cory Eye_Trip (the flamer) is mental and suicidal.

Cory Eye_Trip is the A$$HOLE ruining YOUR forum!

Why?

Cory Eye_Trip is JEALOUS of (and flaming) Amsoil.

WHY? Because Cory Can Not Handle The Truth?

Cory Eye_Trip (the amsoil flamer) has resorted to burying
posts via posting hundreds and hundreds of "dots"
or "periods" to jam threads and tie up bandwidth.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.
CORY (the flamer) IS DESTROYING YOUR FORUM.


Cory is so jealous of Amsoil he might kill himself.


Even the site owner (Mark) dislikes Cory Eye_Trip.

He used to be a member until his registration
was cancelled for flaming a site sponsor (Amsoil).



His Cory Eye_Trip profile on this site:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/cgi-bin/amb/lookup.pl?user=eyetrip

Notice his last post was 6/04/2004 14:05:17.
That is the day he was banned from posting using
his registered member name. But he still posts
here under different names just to flame amsoil.


Cory thought that by attacking site sponsors (amsoil)
and driving them away, this site would have the benefit
of having only annoying google ads instead.

I guess he forgot that after site sponsors were run off
that this site would be destroyed because of a lack of
advertising $$$ and there would be nothing to enjoy as
a Dodge Dakota enthusiast.

Poor Cory.

Flamed site sponsors and destroyed the site.

#########################


*** THE FOLLOWING IS POSTED AS TREATMENT FOR POOR CORY.
IF HE READS THIS EVERY DAY FOR A YEAR HE WILL BE CURED.

WE KNOW WHY Cory Eye_Trip IS UPSET.

Amsoil is a TRUE synthetic and Mobil1 is not!


Mobil1 oils are all Group III fake synthetic.

Mobil1 switched from a G4 synthetic to a G3 Crude.

Mobil1 must admit AMSOIL is the BETTER OIL.



Not all synthetic oils are the same.

Mobil1 is a Group III (fake) synthetic, not a Group IV.
AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO 100% synthetic oil.


There are many oils out there that call themselves synthetic, but not all are created equal, and that's important to know. You do get what you pay for. Group III synthetic oils only use about 12% synthetic base stocks. The rest is hyrdocracked petroleum (crude oil) base stocks. For major oil companies who have their money in crude oil refining, the word "synthetic" is merely a marketing term. It does not mean 100%, but just that a percentage of synthetic base stock goes into their product.

The oils that are commonly mentioned are Group II and Group III synthetics with the exception of Royal Purple, which is a Group V. AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic (PAO) but also uses Group V Ester technology. It (Amsoil) gives you the best of Group IV and Group V synthetics.

REMEMBER:

Mobil1 is a Group III (fake) synthetic.
AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO synthetic.

BACKGROUND

In the late 1990s, Castrol started selling an oil made from Group III base oil and called it SynTec Full Synthetic. Mobil sued Castrol, asserting that this oil was not synthetic, but simply a highly refined petroleum oil, and therefore it was false advertising to call it synthetic. In 1999, Mobil lost their lawsuit. It was decided that the word "synthetic" was a marketing term and referred to properties, not to production methods or ingredients. Castrol continues to make SynTec out of Group III base oils, that is highly purified mineral oil with most all of the cockroach bits removed.

Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has some of the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. AMSOIL differs from Group III oils. As a Group IV oil, it uses 100% pure synthetic base stocks. This is why you can run it for longer intervals.

Synthetic oils were originally designed for the purpose of having a very pure base oil with excellent properties. By starting from scratch and building up your oil molecules from little pieces, you can pretty much guarantee that every molecule in the oil is just like every other molecule, and therefore the properties are exactly what you designed in, not compromised by impurities. Synthetics were thus originally a reaction to the relatively poor refining processes available from about 1930 to about 1990. The original synthetics were designed for the Army Air Force in WW II. They simply could not make their high- performance turbo-charged radial engines stay alive on the available motor oils of the time.

One process for making synthetic base oils is to start with a chemical called an olefin, and make new molecules by attaching them to each other in long chains, hence "poly." The primary advantage of Poly-Alpha-Olefin "PAO" base oil is that all the molecules in the base oil are pretty much identical, so it's easy to get the base oil to behave exactly as you like. PAOs are called Group IV base oils.

Remember:

AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO 100% synthetic oil.

These PAO base oils have an enormous advantage over mineral base oils in low temperature performance and in resistance to oxidation, which is critical in keeping the oil from forming acids.

Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is called Group V. Esters start life as fatty acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into esters, diesters, and polyesters. Group V base stocks are the most expensive of all to produce. However, the esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties - an ester base oil all by itself will do a very decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about making a superior oil will usually mix some Group V oils into their base stock.

Oils that are strictly Group V ester oils tend to be better suited for high RPM, hot running, air cooled engines. 100% ester based oils are usually more expensive than Group IV oils, and don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils. Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term. Oils like Royal Purple and Redline are Group V oils. They perform very well in race engines and in applications where drain intervals are factory spec or shorter, whereas Group IV oils are better suited for the long haul of extended intervals.

Whatever oil you choose, know what you are buying. Just because the jug says "synthetic" doesn't mean it is made from 100% pure synthetic base stocks.

REMEMBER:

Mobil1 is a Group III (fake) synthetic.
AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO synthetic.

#########################

I like these quotes:

This quote sux (for Mobil):

Mobil is a Group III synthetic, not a Group IV.
Group III synthetic oils only use about 12%
synthetic base stocks. The rest is hyrdocracked
petroleum base stocks.



This quote sux (for Royal Purple):

Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term. Oils like Royal Purple and Redline are Group V oils. They perform very well in race engines and in applications where drain intervals are factory spec or shorter

and this one:

Oils that are strictly Group V ester oils tend to be better suited for high RPM, hot running, air cooled engines. 100% ester based oils are usually more expensive than Group IV oils, and don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils



This quote is great (for Amsoil):

AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic (PAO)
but also uses Group V Ester technology.

It (AMSOIL) gives you the best of
Group IV and Group V synthetics.


Recap of the above article:


Mobil is Group III.
Mobil is not Group IV.
Mobil is made from hyrdocracked
petroleum (crude) base stocks.
Mobil is no longer a synthetic oil except for mkting purposes.
--- MOBIL1 LIES ABOUT BEING A SYNTHETIC ---


Royal Purple is Group V.
Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term.
They perform very well in race engines.
They perform very well in applications where
drain intervals are factory specifications or shorter.
Royal Purple tends to be better suited for high
RPM, hot running, air cooled engines.
RP oils don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils.
-- RP is ONLY FOR VERY SHORT DRAIN INTERVALS --


Amsoil is a PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mix
It (AMSOIL) gives you the best of Group IV and Group V synthetics.
Amsoil is a true 100% PAO Group IV Synthetic Oil.
--- AMSOIL IS A TRUE PAO SYNTHETIC AND THE BEST ---
--- AMSOIL IS BEST SUITED FOR EXTENDED OIL DRAINS ---

#########################


AMSOIL NOW SPOTTED AT DODGE DEALERSHIPS!


WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED THAN DODGE's APPROVAL?

Amsoil is Approved for Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles:

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL

here is the thread on this forum:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html

USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!


#########################


Don't pay retail at your Dodge Dealership.

Contact Steve for better prices.

The Amsoil guy (Steve the Amsoil site sponsor)
that was a site sponsor here for many years
(from 2002 - 2007) left due to the childish
behavior of a few flamers.

Steve can be found on another Dodge Dakota truck
site that has moderators and does not allow
undue flaming and childish behavior:

http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105





Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2008
08:07:51

RE: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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REMEMBER:

Cory Eye_Trip (the flamer) is mental and suicidal.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY QUIET.

Repost: (Shhhhhhhhhhh)

Cory is the A$$HOLE ruining YOUR forum.

Cory Eye_Trip is the Amsoil Flamer.

Why? Because Cory Eye_Trip is JEALOUS of Amsoil.

WHY? Because Cory Can Not Handle The Truth:


NOT ALL SYNTHETIC OILS ARE THE SAME.

Mobil1 is a Group III (fake) synthetic, not a Group IV.
AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO 100% synthetic oil.




OilXpert
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2008
08:17:58

The TRUTH about "API"
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To directly address the flamers post, I add the following:


I DID SOME RESEARCH AND LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT API

#1) "API" is a MINIMUM standard and means nothing. Manufacturersĺ warranties are based upon the use of oils meeting specific API Service Classifications, for example, SJ/CF.

2) All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty "CAN NOT" be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets (repeat "meets") specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they can not void the warranty. The law supports this position.

3) "API" is VOLUNTARY and NOT Mandatory. (Mobil1 EP is NOT API. Redline is NOT API. Some Royal Purple is NOT API). API is VOLUNTARY and NOT Mandatory.


IMHO .....


----- IGNORE THE AMSOIL FLAMER.


USE AMSOIL - It "meets" AND "EXCEEDS" API specs.

USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!



WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED THAN DODGE's APPROVAL?

Amsoil is Approved for Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles:

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL

here is the thread on this forum:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html


WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED THAN DODGE's APPROVAL?

NOTHING!

USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!


>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<


I am not affiliated with Amsoil.

But somebody visited their FAQ page and posted this.

Here is what they found:

Q. Will AMSOIL Motor Oils void the warranty of a new vehicle?

A. Absolutely not! Manufacturersĺ warranties are based upon the use of oils meeting specific API Service Classifications, for example, SJ/CF. (AMSOIL lubricants meet the current API Service requirements and, thus, are perfectly suited for use in any new vehicle without affecting the validity of the new vehicle warranty.)




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Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2008
12:24:20

RE: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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Message:
hey stan/shatto/steve/ etc. etc.
you should stick to talking about the things
you talk truthfull about
like the male organ and guys back sides!

quit spamming the boards you retarded h0m0
and learn to tell the truth about
your pyramid scheme oil


............

MOBIL 1 API certified & Warranty approved!
amsoil is neither!

goes to show just how full of sh1t your local scamsoil spamming idiot is (he also need to learn how to spell)

in our service department you will find Mobil 1
you will NOT however find any amsoil products!
why? quick easy answer
for warranty approval you need to use a API certified oil

while amsoil claims they "meet and exceed" API standards fact is they don't!
if their statement was true then you can bet
your last dollar they would go and get API certified!


Dodge requires use of API certified oil

Heck every car/truck maker i have ever seen requires it
not using what they say to use for motor oil?
then they do not have to and will not honor your warranty

what the hell does everyone think the reason is amsoil couldnt get API certified?
yes to much zinc
and the reason they use so much of it is because its cheap and makes a low grade oil slippery
and they never fixed the issue
because they couldnt
they have to keep the product cheap
do you know how many people get a % of every bottle you buy????

the old saying you get what you pay for comes into play here

you are not getting a quality product
you are just paying a % into multiple people in their pyramid scheme

......................................

(posted by Mel)


Stan said prove him wrong

Well
it was a very easy task here you go!
(all Mobil 1 oils are API approved and meet & exceed warranty standards) Amsoil is NOT !

I wrote exxon mobil
"Are your Mobil 1 extended performance oils API approved? "

reply attached and contact Matt yourself
for further info

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Yes, they all are.

--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL

-Matt Jacob


.............................................

ALL our oils (except race series oil)
IS API certified! & warranty Approved!


SCAMSOIL ISN'T

now watch them Lie - watch them cry !
Then they will run and Hide !


http://www.amsoil.com/articlespr/article_xl7500.aspx




Q: AMSOIL will be using a different formula for its XL-7500 Motor Oils. Why did AMSOIL change the formula?

A: Our XL-7500 oils are the oils of choice in the retail oil change market, and primarily because of warranty concerns the customers in this market require API-certified oils. In order to obtain API SL/ILSAC GF-3 certification and still remain cost-competitive with the other oils sold at retail oil change outlets, we had to change to Group III basestocks. To obtain API certification with our top tier basestocks would have priced our Dealers out of the market.


Gee kinda funny when steve put everyone down for using M1 cause in his words "its group 3 not real syn"

but when amsoil is group 3 it somehow becomes "True Syn Oil" LOL


.................................

"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."

top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?s=4be9f2a48ca25c99e87d8935cdc00294&t=1933616



Mobil 1 factory fill in what ???

Mobil 1 factory fill in Corvettes !

"Stick with what the manufacturer uses in it. MOBIL 1, period."

top of the line american sports cars
Factory fill with what oil again?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1933616


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Mobil 1 Factory Fill for Bentley


"Mobil 1 Selected as Exclusive Factory Fill for Bentley Continental GT Coupe; The World's Leading Synthetic Motor Oil Selected"

http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/transportation-equipment-mfg-automotive/5650091-1.html



- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"Mobil 1 Selected as Factory Fill for Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2003_August_13/ai_106557779




Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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2/19/2008
13:08:57

We need to help Cory!
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Message:

REMEMBER EVERYONE:

.... As a way to help "cure" Cory Eye_Trip ....
.. a reminder that AMSOIL is approved by Dodge:

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL

here is the thread on this forum:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html
USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!

#########################

REPOST:

Mobil1 is a Group III ("fake") synthetic.
AMSOIL is a Group IV True PAO synthetic.

I like these quotes from the above informative post:

-- MOBIL1 - This quote sux (for Mobil):

Mobil is a Group III synthetic, not a Group IV.
Group III synthetic oils only use about 12%
synthetic base stocks. The rest is hyrdocracked
petroleum base stocks.

-- ROYAL PURPLE - This quote sux (for Royal Purple):

Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term. Oils like Royal Purple and Redline are Group V oils. They perform very well in race engines and in applications where drain intervals are factory spec or shorter

and this one:

Oils that are strictly Group V ester oils tend to be better suited for high RPM, hot running, air cooled engines. 100% ester based oils are usually more expensive than Group IV oils, and don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils

-- AMSOIL - This quote is great (for Amsoil):

AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic (PAO)
but also uses Group V Ester technology.

It (AMSOIL) gives you the best of
Group IV and Group V synthetics.


Recap:

----- MOBIL1 -----

Mobil is Group III.
Mobil is not Group IV.
Mobil is made from hyrdocracked
petroleum (crude) base stocks.
Mobil is no longer a synthetic oil except for mkting purposes.
--- MOBIL1 LIES ABOUT BEING A SYNTHETIC ---


----- ROYAL PURPLE -----

Royal Purple is Group V.
Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term.
They perform very well in race engines.
They perform very well in applications where
drain intervals are factory specifications or shorter.
Royal Purple tends to be better suited for high
RPM, hot running, air cooled engines.
RP oils don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils.
-- RP is ONLY FOR VERY SHORT DRAIN INTERVALS --


----- AMSOIL -----

Amsoil is a PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mix
It (AMSOIL) gives you the best of Group IV and Group V synthetics.
Amsoil is a true 100% PAO Group IV Synthetic Oil.
--- AMSOIL IS A TRUE PAO SYNTHETIC AND THE BEST ---
--- AMSOIL IS BEST SUITED FOR EXTENDED OIL DRAINS ---

#########################

To help Cory find a cure, we need to ....
.. SUPPORT FORMER SITE SPONSORS ... that he
flamed which led them to move to other truck sites:

The Amsoil guy (Steve the Amsoil site sponsor)
that was a site sponsor here for many years
(from 2002 - 2007) left due to the childish
behavior of a few flamers.

Steve can be found on another Dodge Dakota truck
site that has moderators and does not allow
undue flaming and childish behavior:

http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105




Dr Dakota
Dodge Dakota
JOIN HERE


2/19/2008
13:50:51

RE: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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Even Larry JJ auto says to use ----- AMSOIL -----
Your a queer if you use anything else.



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RE: Mobil 1 Beats Out the Scam Oil !
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