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9/09/2006
00:56:06

Subject: Umm, timing chain?
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Okay. I am on my second distributor and with new parts. First one being the stock one. However, when I fixed the first one and replaced it, it was reading code 11 when it quit on me. Now I have the 'new' distributor in and its acting up again reading code 11. Hint, this usually means the 'hall pick-up assembly' isn't working. The computer doesn't know what stroke or whatever the engine is on. With the same problem resurfacing even with a new part (remanufactured) I am starting to wonder if there is something to cause this? The actual part that broke the first time was the plastic part at the bottom of the distributor that the hall pick-up uses to gauge the engine. I wondering if the timing chain could be messing with this plastic part? The part is 'welded' to the metal housing of the distributor but its more like melted on there. If the timing chain happens to skip or is too loose would this cause any thing related to engine timing and distributor pick-up problems I mentioned? I am only guessing it does, considering what someone else thinks about it. Not familar with timing chains and all. Kinda a make-shift mechanic... fix as I go.

Sorry for long post. Just want to get this solved!



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9/09/2006
23:21:52

RE: Umm, timing chain?
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What year ?
Does it have the Crank Pos. Sensor ?
Back of engine , passenger side , below distributor .
This sounds more like the 'culprit'....



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9/10/2006
00:56:18

RE: Umm, timing chain?
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1989. Still looking in to it. If it is the culprit then it will be the second time and under 2000 miles. Thats why I am wondering if there is something that could cause this.

-SKy



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9/10/2006
12:48:41

RE: Umm, timing chain?
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Might be the dist bushing going bad, causing excess play in the dist shaft. Grab ahold of the rotor (with the cap off) and gently "wiggle" it back and forth, if you have a bit of play in it, I would say to replace the bushing (brass).

If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks...well...it needed to be replaced anyway.

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9/10/2006
16:02:00

RE: Umm, timing chain?
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In addition to cuzindoug suggestion:

Simple,quick check for the chain is to pop off the dist cap. Then get a socket on that damper bolt & rock the crank back & forth while looking @ the rotor. You will see how much play there is in the chain.

Do it slow & watch how many degrees the crank turns once you know how much it takes to move that rotor......






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9/11/2006
16:25:38

RE: Umm, timing chain?
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Okay, replaced the Crank Pos. Sensor today with old one laying around the garage. Now the truck will start up. Code 11 is gone after disconnect battery cable.
Now the truck kinda skips as I put my foot on the accelerator. Still goes up hills and all, just idles funny and skips when given gas. Weird. Not sure where to go from here. New distributor and parts, spark plugs under 25K, stock timing chain @ 200K, not too sure if gas related. And no computer codes doesn't make it easy.

cuzindoug,

Took off cap and wiggled rotor. It moved a full 1/8 inch when I did it. Not sure if thats normal or what. I'll probably check my ford taurus' rotor to see if it moves if don't hear back. Otherwise thanks for tip.

-SKy



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