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Screwuphead
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2/11/2006
13:54:05

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I was wondering how you guys hooked up the MSD 6A. I just got it today from summit Racing. I got the SS blaster and the wiring harness and of course the 6a control Unit. But i was wondering where you guy placed the Control unit cause the battery wires are soo short idk how they are going to reach unless i cut the wires.



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2/11/2006
20:15:09

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What year and engine, etc.




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2/13/2006
12:02:47

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2003 dodge dakota V6 2.9 239 SXT



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2/13/2006
12:56:00

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My 1994 is different than your GenIII, but...
Looking from the front of the truck, my battery is on the right, and coil on the left.
I mounted the MSD6A vertically on the right side of the radiator shroud. The included wires were just long enough.
But my MSD died, and left me stuck in the Taco Bell drive-thru. So I removed it and never replaced it.

So, make sure you install the wires so you can easily put your original setup back.

zzark



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2/13/2006
16:17:18

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Just curious, why are you installing an MSD? Thinking of some seroius mods, say supercharger or something, because if you are not, its not worth the hassle.



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2/14/2006
01:49:00

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yes i am thinking of the custom twin turbo



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2/14/2006
13:57:26

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I put one on a 95 and bought a mount kit from Summit. I put the mounting plate to the right as you look at the engine against the wall. It sort of sits on the wheel well but is also screwed into the side wall. There's just enough of a gap. When I did the install I moved the thick group of wires on the wheel well resulting in the common wire breaking problem caused by corrosion. I had to take the wires apart and fix the break, after alot of head scratching until I figured it out. I also put the SS Blaster on using a fabricated piece of metal and located it where the original coil was. I followed the wiring diagram for the electrical hook up.



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2/15/2006
11:42:09

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If there's no reason to put on the MSD6a unless you're considering big time mods, what about the Blaster Coil? Will that do me any good with a mostly stock set up? Will it hurt my stock ignition or cause it to wear out sooner?



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2/15/2006
12:06:10

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if anything you may go through rotors & caps quicker than with the stock coil. otherwise you shouldn't hurt anything.



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2/15/2006
16:03:39

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If you go through the old posts for Mods you will see that the Mods are best if combine with other Mods. Better air (cold Air), increased fuel (TB, fuel injectors), hotter & better spark (plugs, MSD6a, blaster coil), less back pressure (Headers, muffler, cat ). Naturally the improvement in performance depends on how far you go. Beware, once you start it's tough to stop. Many are looking for that one Mod that makes a huge performance increase but in general it's the multiple mods that get the job done. Then again for some even that isn't enough. It is a V6.



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2/16/2006
09:46:00

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The MSD is a good upgrade but you will need to
run 1 colder plug autolite AP3923 and gap at
.055 to .060 to see any gains from the system

On the obd 2 you will also need the tach adapter
or it will trip coil circuit codes

Use the 2 exsisting coil wires check with ohm
meter
on of will show a steady voltage while cranking
signal will go up and down

Be sure you pull your fuel pump relay in the dist
box before cranking or you will flood the motor


Larry
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2/16/2006
11:12:09

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The FlowMaster is already in, the TB should be arriving today and the CAI is next on the list.

I'm using the Bosch Platinum +4 plugs. They haven't been in long, but they were a big improvement over the old ones. Would the MSD make any difference with those? How about just using the blaster coil?



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2/16/2006
19:52:22

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Larry,
Ignition upgrades are on my to do list for my 2003 3.9 SXT that I got at the end of last year. I was going to install a MSD 6A, Blaster 2 coil, 8.5mm wires, brass cap & rotor, and I was going to run NGK ZFR6F-11 (which have a gap of .044). You are saying that I need to run a colder plug (the 7F) and gap at .055 or .06. Why is that? Sorry if it is a dumb question, I am new at this stuff but am learning alot from this site. Also, if I am just sticking to "bolt-on" upgrades at this piont which would be better to do first ignition upgrades or exhaust?

Thanks,
Brian



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2/16/2006
20:57:41

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with the hotter spark you can run wider gap for a better/ cleaner burn. i'd start with exhaust first. a hi perf muffler and maybe a hi flow cat. then work on the intake side. a sotre bought or homemade CAI and a V8 or aftermarket 48mm TB.



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2/17/2006
08:55:32

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The +4 bosch never ran good for me good idle and
low end but motors stumbled reving up

The bigger gap will give you a bigger flame front
and better performance and will also cool the
spark down a small gap will run hot

Why do racers use a high output ignition to take
advantage of a bigger gap without getting a
misfire condition

The NGK will work just open the gap .010 at a time
untill perf drops off than back up .005 just like
MSD tells you

Larry
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2/19/2006
22:31:32

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maybe its just my set up under my hood but i have no room on the driver side to mount this damn thing otherwise i would have already done so! i think i just need to buy some extention wires.



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2/22/2006
08:23:59

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A lot of guys remove the batt and mount behind it
on the fender

Larry
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2/25/2006
12:33:44

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hmmm well if i were to use extention wires, would you suggest i get 2gage wire or 14gage. cause i got 14 gage but i dont wanna burn out the wire.



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2/25/2006
17:22:52

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MDS manual recommends 10 gauge for power and 16 gauge for other wires.


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March Performance underdrive pulleys, 2" torsion/block lift

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