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04BigQuad
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2/02/2006
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I'm looking to put 33x12.5R15 BFG MTR's tires on my 04 Quad Cab. Since life sucks and they don't make a suspension kit for it, I'll do with the 3" body lift...but I know there is still going to a little bit of rubbing. Does anyone know if the Xenon flares will work...or the bushwacker extend-a-fender? Also, those 2 fender flare descriptions are for standard & ext cab. Is there even a difference between those and the quad cab? I wouldn't think so, but not sure. Thanks for any advice!



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2/02/2006
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This is a tough Q and i doubt you'd get many response so despite not knowing I would say contact Xenon and Bushwhacker and see if you can speak to someone who can tell you. They obviously have the same wheel well, but they may mount different like to a certian frame position that quad cabs don't have.

It would suck to pay 3-4 hundred dollars and then find they don't fit...just an idea



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2/02/2006
22:27:15

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I can't answer your flare question, but I can tell you that a 12.50 wide tire will still rub on the frame even if you completely remove your fenders. You will need to change the backspacing on your wheels for those tires to work, and also, you cannot run a 15" wheel on an 04 Quadcab due to the brake setup, 16" is the smallest.

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BFG AT/KO's 265/75/16

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04BigQuad
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2/02/2006
23:39:13

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Ya know...had I known all these issues beforehand, I would've bought an 02! Since I didn't, I'm determined to make this work. 8banger...thanks for your input. I've read many of your posts and am impressed with what you've said throughout. So 16" rims are stuck cause of the calipers i assume. I might as well go up to 17x10's then since there are more tire options with that wheel size (problem is the $$$ goes way up too!). I had already thought about the backspacing for 12.50s..just haven't gotten the numbers figured out yet. Anyone already know?

So help me out, I want 33x12.50's on my truck. The bodylift is automatic, and I'll do the fender flares if it'll help(have them on my ranger and love em.) I'm a little concerned about cranking the torsion bars considering I've been SEVERELY warned by mechanics I know that they could snap easily. I'm not intersted in the 02 braking components with the Rancho 3" suspension...33's don't fit on that either if memory serves me right. What suggestions can ya'll throw at me that I haven't thought of?

BTW, I called Rancho, Fabtech, Rough Country, Tuff Country, and Skyjacker today asking for R&D and future plans on the suspension kits. Fabtech is still considering, but haven't begun anything yet. Rough Country said the same but has a ton of projects they're already working on. All the rest said they won't be making one...so it doesn't look too good for us 03-04 trucks. Thought you'd like an update.



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2/03/2006
02:14:23

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Your biggest enemy is the width of the tire. If you run a bodylift and or fender flares you will have no problem with the 33" height.

Ask Forexfour(3"rancho) or 360Quadcab(3"bodylift), they are both running 285/75/16s on their stock 16X8 wheels, which I believe are 5.5" backspacing. Now that is a 32.8" X 11.2" tire and 360Quadcab claims zero rub at full lock but no room at all left to go wider.

So if what he says is correct and you can find a 16X8 wheel with 4.5" backspacing, you should be able to fit a 305/70/16 which is 32.8" X 12.0".

Now I don't have any empirical evidence here, but based on the numbers it should work....good luck.

And 360Quadcab or Forexfore feel free to chime in if you have any input.

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04BigQuad
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2/03/2006
11:05:51

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i gotcha...let me throw this at ya. How bout I lose the stock rim...buy the MT Classic Lock II's that I love so much->17x10's, and to make those fit, get a bolt pattern adapter with a spacer to push the wheels out a touch more. I can get a few extra wheel base inches out of that. Otherwise I'll be looking for the 4.5"backspacing to do the deed. Thoughts?



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2/03/2006
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Well I don't know what the BS is on the Mickey Thompsons but I know a lot of guys run Eagle Alloys which have either a 3.25 BS or a 3.75 BS depending if you get 0589s (3.25) or other models like my 117(3.75).

The AEs are availible in 17s

Also i know TomZwheels.com will save you big bucks on new eagle alloys compared to say Mickey Thompson wheels.

Also, adapters are pricey and if you go that way you might as well stick with stock wheels and then get 1.5-2.5" spacers.

Good Luck Quad




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2/03/2006
15:20:28

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Pretty sure Forexfour sold his truck a few years back for a Jeep. I think he had 32x11.5x15 before his Rancho lift but had to do some trimming and still had frame rub, after the lift he ran a 33x10x15 and a Hanson bumper for off-roading. My lift installer told me I couldn't run a 305/70/16 unless I went with a rim with less backspace and then would trim on bumper and wheel well. I went with 285/75/16 on aftermarket rims with stock backspace(5.5) so I would have plenty of room for flex off-road.

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2/03/2006
15:39:03

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geez...finding a woman to marry wasn't even this hard! thanks for the input guys.



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2/04/2006
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I have the Bushwacker Flares on my 02 Dak. There are no cut-out flares available for us if that is what you are wondering.



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2/04/2006
10:23:12

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Back to the original question about the flares. Does your truck have factory flares, now? As 8Banger mentioned, I've got 285/75's on with no room to go wider without frame rub. My factory flares cover my 11.5's with a little room to spare. If you were set on 12.5's and ok with some rub maybe look into a set from the dealer?

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2/04/2006
17:14:14

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Hey 360...yes i do have the factory flares on there, and that's made me think I might be ok with the 3" body lift and 4" backspacing on the wheels. I've really been considering some spacers to elmininate any frame rub, if necessary. I remember reading a post between you and 8banger about you not having any rubbing on yours, but forgot how wide your tires were. I'm going BFG 33x12.5 MTs. I WILL be taking my truck offroad so there needs to be a little room available for compression. Thoughts?



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2/04/2006
19:34:28

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You should not need wheel spacers for those tires. I had 33x12.50 tires on both my stock and aftermarket rims. Aftermarket rims had a back spacing of 5 inches and only had rub at full lock with only my torsion bars crancked up 2 inches. take a look for your self at http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2250656/1 . Now it has a body lift but no rubbing except on the frame.



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2/04/2006
20:09:09

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04BigQuad - I was very close to getting MT's but wimped out at the last minute. My tire guy told me that if you don't rotate religiously with those you'll be sorry. Plus my AT's are really smooth and quiet (they are 11.5" wide). Something else, I don't have much room between my tire and front bumper, if you do off-road and happen to catch one of those huge lugs on your bumper it could get ugly...

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2/04/2006
22:36:27

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Looking good reddak. Lovin the mud pics. 360..I've had 33&35x12.5's BFG MT on my ranger and never had any type of wear troubles. I did have to get them realigned every other year though. I'm assuming the same will be done with the Dak. I think the spacer/adaptor (which ever i decide on) along with the lift would ultimately elmininate any rub on the frame and fender. I know what you mean about hitting a rut hard though. I'm really gonna have to get the lift, spacers, and tires and then decide what I'll need to do from there. I actually wouldn't mind losing the front bumper and getting an offroad bumper w/skid plate and winch. I haven't been able to find anything online for those bumpers though. I saw one on www.glassworksunlimited.com, but believe that to homemade. I could weld some things together, but don't want the jimmy-rig look.



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2/04/2006
23:21:23

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Did some looking through some OLD posts and found http://www.kenmtn.com for the front and back bumper...very sexy. I might be able to make this work. This should be a pretty sweet setup and tell me what you guys thing! 3" Body lift. Spacers for 33x12.5R16/17 BFG MT. Kenmtn front bumper w/lighting and winch. Don't worry, I'll have the performance to go with it. K&N intake, Gibson Dual Extreme exhaust, Jet Chip, and underdrive pulleys (still need to find for my truck.) We'll see if I need to lower my gearing or not, I doubt it though. I will probably need better brakes. I got a long way to go guys.

I really appreciate all you guys input! Now that I have things planned out, I can do things right the first time and be happy with the outcome.



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12/23/2015
13:02:44

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SO, I HAVE A 2000 DODGE DAKOTA THAT DOES NOT HAVE
FENDER FLARES, I'M TRYING TO BUY A SET. SOME
WEBSITES SAY REGULAR CAB, EXTENDED CAB, AND QUAD
CAB ARE THE SAME (FLARES) AND OTHERS WEBSITES SAY
QUAD CAB THE REAR FENDERS ARE DIFFERENT, DOES
ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS?



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