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Dan
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1/15/2004
01:15:24
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whats up guys? I am fixing to replace my intake manifold gasket and belly pan gasket and i have a really simple question. I know i need to replace the intake manifold bolts but do i need to also replace the belly pan bolts? Any other helpful hints on this project would be of great help. Thanks.
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nwf_snake
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1/15/2004
07:56:53
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Don't replace the plenum gasket with another gasket, use "The Right Stuff" or Copper RTV. Much better in the long run! I put in new bolts all the way around.
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gen1dak
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1/15/2004
09:53:49
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Replacing the intake bolts is a new one on me, but I know this has been done on head bolts of other engines. Can't find anything on it in the FSM or Mopar Performance Magnum Engines book, but I just may not have seen it yet. Can anyone point out where it says the intake bolts are of the single use variety?
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.boB
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1/15/2004
15:44:03
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Intake manifold and belly pan bolts are low tension. As long as they are not corroded, I would not be afraid to re-use them. The belly pan bolts should have a star lock washer (not split) and some lock tite. It's just an access cover. But you don't want any bolts to fall out.
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Deep Purple
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1/15/2004
18:56:42
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Dodge makes a replacement plenum and slightly longer bolts in a kit. Do use loctite and the right stuff on the gasket. I went with an ASP replacement plenum. A little more expensive but well worth it. Good luck.
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big_trq
Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2004
20:03:56
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I`d just get the M1. Problem solved and more power !
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Dan
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1/15/2004
21:19:54
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So if i am reusing the same plenum i can jus reuse the same bolts or no. If no what is the price on those plenum bolts?
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dakracer
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1/15/2004
21:37:05
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The bolts are what they call torque to yield style bolts. They actually stretch when you tighten them.
If stretched to much they are prone to breaking. I have reused them without problems but i usually replace them when i do other peoples vehicles. As far as using new bolts on the belly pan...the new bolts from the dealer have thread locker on them to stop them from backing off. Also the new style gasket is a rubber coated metal shim type gasket that does not blow out like the original ( paper style ). Dealer also recommends a new belly pan. Total parts from dealer for everything is about $120.00.
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gen1dak
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1/15/2004
23:44:49
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That's what I mean. Usually, there's a big message somewhere in the manuals about torque once style bolts, and they're typically the head bolts on 4-bangers and who knows what else, but I've yet to see anything of the sort on these engines. Looking at the belly pan bolts, they look like you'd strip the threads before they'd break. Dan, don't let the torque-to-yield thing worry ya. Lug nuts are the same thing, only bigger. And with the intake it's only 144 in/lbs externally and 84 in/lbs on the plenum gasket.
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C Taylor
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1/19/2004
22:43:29
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Dan
If you will order a intake gasket set from Moparperformance, It comes with a set of new bolts. Allso try (The Mopars Connection.Com)for a good price on gasket set and other parts.
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