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Waltherone
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
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The saying "you guys are nothing without your 5spds" will from this point be known as the 5.9 Fallacy :)
Got back from a great night at the track last night with my lil 4.7L CC auto. Best time of 14.075 @ 95.58mph. A 14.22 and 14.15 to back it up.
The automatics live!
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
01:29:32
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Great Job!
It shouldn't be long before we see some 13 second timeslips from you!
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Notchlx
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
01:54:39
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Dangit Man... Impressive numbers.
.alex. Looks like you need an auto to get in the 13's...hahaha
Good Job, keep the numbers dropping.
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Kowalski
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
08:49:09
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Nice runs !
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chesster51
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
09:21:36
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Very nice! How can I be more like you? Please, tell me about your mods.
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waltherone
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
14:41:36
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Hah thanks guys. You don't wanna be like me, unless you have no girlfriend and no life, and a low 14 truck is all you have. hehe
mods are as follows though:
360airintakez.com intake
HO intake manifold
KRC 206 cams
KRC PCM flash
3" single exhaust with cutout for the track
26x10.5 ET Streets
No belt fan, and shortbelt (bypass power steering, probly not worth much)
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Andrew
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
17:22:21
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So how does the H.O. Manifold work with the 206's? I was thinking of swapping out my H.O. cams and going with a set of ported H.O. heads and adding the 206 cams at the same time.
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b1llyw
GenII
12/21/2003
19:03:15
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Awesome dude! Glad our cams and flash are helping you get the job done.
Bill White - KRC Performance
'95 CC 4x2, SLT - 408 is done, truck isn't
'03 Ram 1500 QC 4x4 Hemi Off-Road
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islander
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
19:35:48
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very good runs.
How much more do you think you can get out of it n/a?
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waltherone
Dodge Dakota
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12/21/2003
20:34:47
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Islander, I'm still on the stock 65mm throttle body. Duner's starting to convince me to go with an F&B, so we'll see in January when I head back to the track.
Also got some other home made and low budget things that, all in all, I think will gain me a tenth or so in themselves.
All I ask for is one more night in January like friday night's weather, and I might can bang out a 13.8 or so. Let's hope. A 13.99 is all I ask :P
Andrew,
Really man, I didn't have the HO cams before this. I went from stock cams and stock manifold to 206 cams, then a week later bolted on the HO manifold. So obviously I can't compare it to your setup. Maybe the guy to ask that one to is .alex. because he went from HO cams and HO intake to 212 cams and HO intake. He at least has something to compare to with HO cams.
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2003
13:45:07
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Andrew, go with the ported heads and 206 cams. You wont be sorry. And be sure to run true duals all the way back. 2.5" right off the factory manifolds or headers. That alone was worth .25 in the 1/4 mile dept.
Way to go Waltherone!
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sniper
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2003
16:27:42
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i'm pretty sure it's recommended to run single exhaust on daks. dual exhaust kinda hurts us. i had turn downs and went back to a single pipe and tip and it picked it up some.
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Notchlx
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2003
16:39:15
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Numbers don't lie Sniper, and all of us with them can testify.
I picked up 26 RWHP with a forced induction setup... I previously had a Flowmaster cat-back.
Alex picked up 2.5 tenths from a single 3" with a high-flow cat. (Naturally Aspirated)
Lynn picked up 3 tenths (Naturally Aspirated)
and the list goes on.
If the duals aren't over-sized, the balance and flow will free up the hidden ponies. Proven Point.
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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12/22/2003
16:48:54
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Sniper, the difference is having the larger throttlebody, the larger cams, and the better intake manifold. I would not run true duals on a stock Dakota. But once you have a lot of air going in, the true duals really help out. I'd say that I have picked up at least 20 rear wheel horsepower over my 3" single exhaust set-up that I had previously.
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xplikt
GenIII
12/22/2003
17:49:21
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True dual 2.5" is slighter more area than a single 3.5". I'll be, finally, going to true dual and JBA headers later this month. I love road trips to Spokane :)
I found my ASP pulley the other day, I completely forgot I had it. So that's going in this week.
Got an HO intake manifold ordered (who knows how it'll work, but they went down in price, like $90 now!).
And I'm looking at 218 cams (I run 4.56s) and will run some sort of power adder later.
I really need my PCM done, but I have an 02.. *shrug*
SRP will be a little bit better next Sping.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/xplikt/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
R/T wheels on 275/40/17 Dunlop 9000s
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CThomp
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12/23/2003
08:42:52
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I'm currently running a Fastman 68mm and a 4" Z-tube. Should I upgrade to a 72mm before switching to true duals? Currently I just have a single 2.5" Carsound Cat and a single 2.5" in/out Magnaflow. No precats on my '00 4.7L.
I'm still holding out on the cams. I'd like to get some that aren't the HO's and aren't regrinds.
xplikt: Where did you find the HO manifold for $90? Might as well get it at that price.
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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12/23/2003
09:21:19
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Waltherone and I are running regrinds, and we are chasing the 13's on all-motor. Do with that what you will....
If it was up to me, I'd at least upgrade to the 70mm F&B, if not the 72mm. Until you get the cams, though, I'd prolly stick with the 70mm.
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CThomp
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12/23/2003
09:37:44
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I'll probably just go with the 72mm for sh!ts and giggles. The other parts will come eventually.
It's not that I don't think regrinds are worth their weight I'd just rather have solid cams rather than cams with lash caps. Something about the lash caps throw me off. Problem is i'll probably be waiting a really long time before crane or compcams comes up with some cams.
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xplikt
GenIII
12/23/2003
14:40:13
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All new 4.7L 04s (I think some 03s even) come with a new looking HO manifold (same as 04 Jeep HO).
My local dealer is too dumb, so I gotta pay shipping after the ~90, but your local dealer might be good.
-Mike
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2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out | straight piped 3rd cat | turndown tip
Full Hotchkis and RAS
Shaved emblems and antennae
150BM fan | removed clutch | HD Radiator
R/T wheels on 275/40/17 Dunlop 9000s
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Demon Dakota
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12/23/2003
15:02:59
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True duals absolutely work wonders with the correct combination of intake/head mods...
True Dual exhaust and removed third cat
HO Cams & HO Intake
FASTMAN 70mm TB
Autolite 3923 Plugs
TPS @ .76 VDC
IAT Adjuster Mod
Custom tranny VB Mod
Demon long tube headers
Ported/polished heads w/ 1.92" Intake/1.60" Exhaust Valves
One dead stock LSD unit (POS...)
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waltherone
Dodge Dakota
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12/24/2003
00:34:19
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How do you think the true duals compare to a 3" with open cutout?
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