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Ramin Redneck
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9/04/2003
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Can I put twin turbo on my 98 v6 ram 1500? If so how can I do it cheaply and by myself?
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Oximoron
Dodge Dakota
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9/04/2003
14:08:42
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Custom twin turbo and 'cheaply' do not go together.
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Mr.Sleepy
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9/05/2003
08:15:31
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The words twin turbo should never be paired with V6.
Unless your getting your turbos for free or dirt cheap it might be cheaper to drop in a 5.2 or a 350 big block mopar crate motor. You have to ask yourself how much horsepower will this mod get me versus how much a V8 will give you.
I would order a 350 mopar 380hp V8 from summit for about 3,400 bucks and even then I would probably save some cash over the cost of a custom twin turbo.
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DODGE DRAGON
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9/05/2003
13:01:29
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Like I said in another post...if you really want to boost that V6 you should go single turbo. I imagine you just want more power out of your truck, maybe to do a little racing, but probably not going to be a full out track racer.
Throw a single snail on there, you'll get more power..though you won't be able to run much boost unless you get an intercooler, uprade your ignition and fuel managment...step up to some port and polish, beef up the internals, not to mention what you're gonna have to do with the drivetrain....the list goes on and on....it's not easy or cheap for that matter.
For a truck that's only going to be street raced and taken to the track for fun I say stick to all motor.....drop in a V8 and go from there....that's what I'm doing. heh'
I'm only keeping my truck(v6) running for as long as it'll take for me to finally drop in a V8.
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Martin
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9/05/2003
23:37:57
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What the hell is a big block 350 Mr Sleepy? The smallest big block Mopar ever made was a 361. But Mopar did make a 350 V8 back in the 50's.
If you go the V8 route I would install Mopar's MPI 5.9 (360) small block crate motor. But I like the twin turbo V6 idea. A 300hp twin turbo V6 powered the Dodge Stealth R/T and they put a single turbo on the old V6 powered Buick grand national cars and GMC Cyclone Jimmys. It would be alote of work to do to your pickup but it would be one of a kind.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
9/06/2003
11:50:26
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The Dodge stealth was a Mitsu-bitchi engine and if you're ever looked under the hood of a twin turbo and intercooled Dodge Stealth/Mitsu-bitchi 3000 Gt you would see there is absolutely NO ROOM to work on anything LOL!!!
300 HP out of the little 3.0 engine is cool. Nissan did the same thing a long time ago with the twin turbo 300Z that beat the Vette in those years. But like Mitsu-bitchi's, you didn't get too many miles out of it before BLUE SMOKE started to make it'a appearance!!!
All I have to say now is... You shoulda had a V8!
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ZZZ
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2003
19:59:46
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Nice ricer webpage you got there GraphiteDak...did you make it?
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lol
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2003
21:34:33
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No thats his real car on the left, he couldnt find another picture.
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RamminRedneck
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9/09/2003
11:45:41
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Well guys, thanks for the input on the V8. I did find a RT360 that a buddy of mine has for sale, but I didn't want to have to change out all the computer, wiring, fuel pump, and etc. Besides, like Martin said, I wanna be a one of a kind. Just imagine pulling up and waxing a big V8, then the guy says, HEY, whatcha got under the hood. Imagine His suprise....LOL I heard one of you guys saying he put two 4 cylinder turbos on his v6...HOW? I wanna know..
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massivdak
Dodge Dakota
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9/09/2003
19:27:35
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stay loyal to the v6
slap on a turbo with mild boost for about 1800 to 2200 depend on what you do with it and you might be able to beat and rt im almost sure you could beat a stock rt with a turbo v6
as for a v8 swap 3000 for the engine plus the swap itself with you will have to pay for unless you have your own shop so you look at about 4000 total
your choice
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RamminRedneck
Dodge Dakota
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9/10/2003
11:16:13
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Well the thing is I can get the rt for 400-500 bucks, but all the computer crap will cost out the bum.. So is it possible to get, maybe 2 4 cylinder turbos out of a junkyard to put on it?
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massivdak
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9/10/2003
21:07:23
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if you get a junkyard turbo make sure it is from a engine with simmalar power or the 3.9 will for lack of a better word inhale the turbo
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Dave-O
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9/20/2003
01:38:04
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Ok bud, hold off on the turbo because that'll dramatically decrease your engine life. The only reason imports use turbos is for one reason. They got no room for n e thing else. A turbo is small and can get a lotta hp outta their small engines. You'd be better off with a small block v8. Besides Naturally Aspirated engines are better anyway. Their specs are more consistent and you get way better acceleration. Turbos and superchargers send a burst of compressed air into the engine at a certain rpm, giving it this huge burst of power. That takes a toll on a stock engine. Its like taking a baloon that's half full, and then pumping large amounts of air into it at a rapid rate. The baloon will expand faster but it will pop a lot sooner then if you kept a nice consistent flow of air to it. The only turbo setup I'd reccomend is an engine outta a stealth rt, those engines are made to handle twin turbos, as oppose to the 3.9 v6, which never had turbos in mind at the factory. Good luck whatever it is you choose to do
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GraphiteDak
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9/20/2003
20:13:38
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DaveO said :Besides Naturally Aspirated engines are better anyway. Their specs are more consistent and you get way better acceleration. Turbos and superchargers send a burst of compressed air into the engine at a certain rpm, giving it this huge burst of power.
Yes a N/A engine will be more dependable. But not out accelerate a turbocharged/blown engine!
And turbochargers may have lag and give more boost with RPM, but superchargers are pretty much instant and smooth through out the RPM's!
I'd give my left nut for a supercharger, and so would most of you, weather you admit it or not LOL!
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gtredd
Dodge Dakota
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9/20/2003
23:35:27
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turbo lag is a ricer term.
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GraphiteDak
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9/20/2003
23:41:49
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"turbo lag is a ricer term."
How is that? Unless you're just messing with me.
Turbo lag has been mentioned about turbos way before ricers were thought of!
Especially when concerning older turbo diesels, They had some SERIOUS turbo lag!
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
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Martin
Dodge Dakota
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9/22/2003
15:27:20
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How about a centrifugal supercharger for that V6? I am sure a the supercharger kits they make for the V8s would bolt right with minimal modifications becouse the V6 is just a V8 with 2 cylinders lopped off. Hot Rod did a build up on a carberated chevy 4.3 awhile ago with a small block centrifugal supercharger and got 400hp out of it. I am sure you could do about the same with your 3.9 and back the boost down a bit and the engine would live a long and happy life.
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IntenseDak39
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9/22/2003
17:15:10
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turbo lag is for diesels... enough said
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MOTRSPRT
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9/22/2003
22:36:25
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Mr. Sleepy wrote:
"The words twin turbo should never be paired with V6.
Unless your getting your turbos for free or dirt cheap it might be cheaper to drop in a 5.2 or a 350 big block mopar crate motor. You have to ask yourself how much horsepower will this mod get me versus how much a V8 will give you."
Please tell me you weren't serious with that statement? It's already been mentioned about the 300ZX TT and the 3000GT VR4, but because I own a 1991 300ZX TT--WITH A V6 ENGINE--I have to reply to that statement. For starters, I can't think of any domestic manufacturers that created a V6 twin turbo. V8's are so prominent in the states that apparently most feel this is the only way to make power, prompting the ridiculous cliche' "There's no replacement for displacement." What a bunch of BS that is. It's entirely old school. In 1990, Nissan built the 300ZX TT with several high tech, and advanced features for its day. The twin turbo system, for starters. V6, dual throttle bodies, dual turbo's. A single turbo would not properly work in that day for a V6 engine configuration. Variable valve timing, not VTEC. HICAS steering, which is 4-way steering developed to aid in making lane changes quicker.
From the factory, this car developed 300 hp. With 3 modifications and ~$1200, the car's output jumps to 396 hp. A few more mods and money, and you soon have 450 hp. All in a daily driver. Probably because you don't have the mass of a V8 creating all that heat. Only a 3.0L V6 which easily beat Corvettes in that day, except for the ZR1.
So, should twin turbo and V6 be paired together? Absolutely! It's been done. Proven. And, won. If that doesn't convince you, read up on Porsche's modern flat-6 with twin turbo's. ~450 hp. from the factory.
Kris
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RamminRedneck
Dodge Dakota
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9/23/2003
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Hey guys, I just found an older 426 Running HEMI! Should I get it and put it in my Ram...If so How much modification would I have to do to put it in with it being carbed and my truck being EFI V6?
Would it be worth it?
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IntenseDak39
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9/23/2003
13:38:12
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putting a carb on that thing would be the least of your worries.
other things to think about:
motor mounts
transmission/mounts
new driveshaft
bigger rearend (unless you already have a 12 bolt)
working gauges
... etc ... etc ... etc
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