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RaZoR1
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6/11/2003
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Here's my problem. I had the charger on for about a month then i start having MAP sensor codes. I've replaced the MAP and the by-pass valve but still the same problem. My MAP sensor is not seeing any vacum at idle. The shop where i had it installed has talked to Kenne Bell and every thing they said to look at was fine. The guy at the shop decided to re-rout some vacum lines so that not so many things are drawing off that line. It seems to work fine (for now). My concern is that i would think Kenne Bell's original set up should work. Have any of you guys had a similar problem??? Thanks...



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6/11/2003
20:58:36

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Razor,

What are the problems you are experiencing in your driveability?



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6/11/2003
22:07:26

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I have not had any problems like that. Do you have a boost gauge installed? Does that read normal? Maybe there is a problem with the electrical connector to the MAP sensor?

2000 4.7 CC auto, clear corners, Magnaflow catback, Kenne Bell s/c, Aquamist water injection.

RaZoR1
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6/12/2003
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My problem is at idle, or as soon as i let off the gas. The things chugs real bad and sometimes stalls. As soon as i let off the gas the RPM's drop right down almost instantly. The thing is (was) running real rich. I do not have a boost gauge in there yet but I'm putting one in real soon!!!! The guys at the shop have check all those type of connections and found nothing. I got the freeze frame data and it is showing that the MAP is reading 1psi!!! Obviously there is a problem with the by-pass or blow-off if the MAP is reading boost instead of vacumm. Since the guy at the shop re-routed the lines i have not had a problem but i just don't feel real comfortable with the set up not being the way it was designed. I have not lost any oil pressure and my truck is not running hot(haven't looked at the coolant yet) so i don't think I've lost any compression in the motor. I'd like to try and explain what he did but i'm not sure. I know he removed a line from the end of the blow off block that went to the bypass valve and created a new line for it. I really haven't had time to take a real good look or even talk to Kenne about it. Friggin confused and frustrated. When i get a chance I'm going to sit down with the guy at the shop so he can explain EXACTLY what he did and why, and how the whole thing works for that matter. I thought i had a good idea but maybe I'm missing soething. ARggghhhhhh.....



SY KB 4.7L
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6/12/2003
19:06:55

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I normally dont post on this board. But I'll help you out.

The shop you took it to was correct. Your map is reading boost when it shouldnt be. Since they routed the lines and you have not have the problem its most likely fixed, just reading vacuum.

If and only if the problem comes back you'll need to reroute the map line to yet another location. USE THE INTERIOR VACUUM LINE. Go straight from the map to this line. Just cut the vacuum line insert a "T" and hook the lines back up.

Yes, I had the same problem with my kit when I first had it. No, Kenne bell was no help. It was the only problem I ever had with the kit. Dont worry about the lines not hooked up the way Kenne bell wanted them. You'll be fine. I ran my kit for 10,000+ miles.

Email me at ptgog17@aol.com if you need more help or better instructions.



RaZoR1
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6/12/2003
19:27:04

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I don't think you'll ever realize how much of a relief it is to hear you say that!!!!! Thanks a lot. I've been looking for people with the same problem and have not been able to find one!! I was beggining to think i had a bigger problem on my hands. Most problems were with detonation and I don't have a problem with that. I'm not sure what lines he used but i'll be sure to find out. Once again, thanks!!!!!!



SY KB 4.7L
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6/12/2003
22:07:39

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No problem.

But I cant stress this enough, if its working dont change it. I never had pinging problem either. But a few other people i've spoken to have had bad pinging. Enjoy the kit!!!



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6/13/2003
12:12:07

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get a boost guage so you can see what is going on... if it works leave it alone. it's not a big deal to change vacuum lines as long as they are all still reading the V correctly.



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6/13/2003
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SY or Razor...did your kit come w/ a Knock Sensor? My buddy has the KB S/C on his R/T and they told him he has to have it on there but all that thing does is back out when he punches it.
In the 1/4 mile he had it hooked up and got a 14.8 at best. When he unhooked it he got a 14.0 and this is on a stock engine.
Just wondering if any of you had that on there, if you do it apparently works alot better w/o it.

~Mike~

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6/13/2003
15:16:29

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I do have the knock system. I have not had it retard timing yet but i guess some guys are having that problem. I live up in canada and i can get 94 octane almost everywhere. If he runs with out that system hooked up he can cause some serious damage. Tell him to try and drop a can of octane boost in it and try that. I have yet to make it to the track but i would not be happy with a 14.8. I'm crossing my fingers. Hoping for mid to high 13's.



SY KB 4.7L
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6/13/2003
15:37:27

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Mike,

I never have had a problem with knock either. If your friend is actually getting knock then he better be careful. Unpluging that could result in a ruined engine. I have seen people get knock because the knock sensor was too loose. It could be as simple as something hitting near the knock sensor. I would check that the correct plugs are being used and degree of thermostat. Then I would make sure that the coolant was filled correctly.

I'm in Texas and have to deal with 100 degree + summers and have zero knock problems.



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5/05/2019
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I know it is a shot in the dark with a 13
year old post, but Sy are you still on
here?



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