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jake
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3/16/2003
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how about them apples! 99 cc r/t, n/a, stock heads and cam...



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3/16/2003
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Nice times, what kind of mods? Street tires?



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3/16/2003
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Wow , nice ! In a heavy ass club cab too. I bet hes got 1.7 rockers , slicks , M1 , throttle body , electric fan , stall converter and some other stuff. Am I right , dude ?



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3/16/2003
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That seems to be the best combo for R/Ts. Theres one R/T guy thats got a 13.09@102 ( i think 102 mph ) with stock heads and cam and no power adders. All motor.



moparjoe20
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3/16/2003
22:41:21

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That 13.09 is Tony C's truck - keep a watch on him - he's about to go into the 11's within the next month or so. He's shooting for the first R/T in the 12's NA with stock heads/cam and 1st R/T in the 11's with stock heads/cam and 100hp shot.



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3/17/2003
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I been hearing about him diving lower & lower into the 13s. Thats a pretty freak time for the mods he has.

What track does he race at ? Is it that track that everybody gets great times at ? The one everybody says its 1000` and downhill ? Atco or Cecil ? I forget.

Hes gotta be putting 320 or more to the wheels or his truck weighs 3600#.

I just think its weird hes 1/2 sec faster than everybody else with the same mods.

I hope he does it !



daveczrn
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3/20/2003
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atco can be 1000' below sea level
but i have never herd it being downhill
i have herd of a track that is downhill slightly
Beaver Springs Dragway....it's kinda north east of harisburg...a far drive but my brothers 69 camaro ran faster their than at atco



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3/20/2003
15:30:43

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1000' below sea level?

2000 4.7 CC auto, clear corners, Magnaflow catback, Kenne Bell s/c.

Joe
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3/20/2003
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Don't forget to mention your hidden 100 shot of nitrous.



al
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3/20/2003
16:51:30

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How much hp can a stock rear and tranny take on a 2001 r/t?



.alex.
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3/20/2003
17:21:56

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Well, it's funny that you should mention that Tony C's truck weighs 3600 lbs.... because that's pretty much what it weighs WITH HIM IN IT. That truck's a light-weight by Gen III Dakota standards. He's been shaving weight off it in little chunks for about a year now.... and currently, it's a skinny little truck.





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3/20/2003
18:32:21

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Alex,

i think thats the main reason my sixer has any speed... with all the crap i have removed, i imagine thats about what my truck weighs. Gonna be looking at jonas' carbon fiber bumper when/if it comes out

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moparjoe20
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3/20/2003
22:19:32

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Tony C's truck weighs about 3600# with the tonneau and bed rug in it - It's still has the A/C , power accessories and full interior - power is right around 280hp at the wheels.



.alex.
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3/21/2003
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Intense....

Of course that's why your truck is so fast. It weighs nothing. I have a buddy with an 11-sec Ford Ranger that is basically all junkyard & e-bay parts. But it only weighs 2950lbs. It weighs 3150 with him in it. Not that much power to begin with, just nothing to carry with the power.



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3/21/2003
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"& e-bay parts"


lol...that sounds familiar

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3/22/2003
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3600lbs????? He's 600lbs lighter than my truck, weighed at Gainesville Raceway with 1/4 tank of gas,spare removed, tonneau installed, and all the bumpers.
I cant imagine where the weight loss comes from unless he's stripped the interior or has a CF truck bed or spent mega $$$ on custom parts.

Any details? BTW, mine ran a 14.7 @96mph in that configuration. Stock heads and cam too.
That guy is close to 2secs faster!



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3/22/2003
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simply, the power your engine puts out has to move you and your truck. so every tiny thing counts. im talkin about carpet, passenger seat, AC, windshield washer bottle and sprayers, instead of having 2 long 3in dual exhaust pipes, get one side exhaust like spintech. in trucks, u want to take off wieght in the front b/c they are nose heavy of course. battery to bed, umm buy a 5.2L 5spd, first manual trannys are alot lighter then autos, second u can shift it yourself, and third the 5.2L is lighter then the 5.9L yet the hp/tq diff isnt that big. dont get power windows or locks, buy a turbo awd 95 talon that can run circles around us and then pass us. throw in a hand job and some luberiderm for the blow off valve going into the intake new shoes , thats what she said, along those lines vtec powered porsche in my suburan can beat your turbo typhoon. my 2 cents



TurboGuy
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3/22/2003
10:21:47

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Kramer, you're a moron. I know that stripping all the "unnecessary" items will make you lose weight...but also resale value too.
Of course you've probably never owned anything nice, so you wouldnt have a clue as to what Im talking about.
If I really wanted to put someone in the weeds, Id borrow my friends 400hp streetbike thats 65" long. Runs 8s effortlessly.
My question was how did this guy lose 600lbs off the weight of the truck?
I dont want to spend $7500 for carbon fiber doors, fenders, hood, and bed.



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3/22/2003
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hey turbo, people like u shouldnt be allowed on these boards that talk about RESALE value like its more important then your coc*k. any real dakota owner that does mods and goes to the track doesnt give a shi*t about resale value u troll. i bought a 99 5.2 5spd reg cab blue for 6k w/55k miles. u think i give a shi*t about selling it? oooo not resale value u monkey. if you want a good resale value, u shouldnt even get an aftermarket radio queer. u fu*cking want to run faster then the "other" dak at the track then u do the fuc*kling stripping the truck deal and live with it. so go eat a dic*K and dont be one of those fags that always says" a friend of a friends dad has a bike that runs 8s. that is so retarded. u cant even compare that u dakota. its like me saying my uncle was in the air force and he flew a f-15 and that was faster then my dakota.. ooo no shi*t it is punk



TurboGuy
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3/22/2003
23:36:41

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Kramer, you sheit box eating little punk. Get your money back from your typing teacher....the lessons didnt do you any good...lol

What self respecting "street car" owner wants to gut the whole interior? Its a fu*cking street truck you moron. Why would I want to be like some ricer and ride around sheet metal showing everywhere? THat is as gay as your father.

Im sorry I posted about my friends 8second motorcycle. Mine only goes 9. teens at 150+mph and its a STREET BIKE...complete with lights, horns, full instrumentation, etc. No slicks or wheelie bars.

I just cant see how someone runs 1/2 faster and is 600lbs lighter. There isnt 600lbs worth of sheit in a club cab Dakota you fuking cleft palate reject.
Do me a favor when you finish your shift at Dairy Queen...tell your parents to put you on "restriction". You are fukked beyond therapy my trailer trash friend and your mothers a wh_ore



Im_gay_Kramer
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3/22/2003
23:42:40

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Kramer, you fu_cking fag. Go back to what you know best....chicken hawking.
You wanna be, teen beat reject, trailer park living, used Dakota buying sucka.

Why not just scoop up some dog s_hit from the park and spray some Meguires detail mist on it....it would probably look better than what you have now..lol
You know the saying, "cant polish a turd"??
You are the reason that was submitted. Your parents...uh I should say "queer" dad and his favorite sock are ashamed of you....hehe



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3/23/2003
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TurboGuy,

i dont know the real value of the weight i have taken off but here are some of the items:

rear bumper (75+lbs)
spare tire (50lbs)
spare tire assembly
gutted tailgate (25+lbs)
heat sheilds (10lbs)
a/c compressor (25lbs)
condensor (20lbs)
evaporator (5lbs)
hole in bed (40lbs)

i know there's more but i cant think of them right now.

now here's the items i replaced with lighter ones:

ladder bars (about 50lbs savings)
corbeau seats (about 20lbs savings)
electric fan (about 10-15lbs savings)

now thats close to 350lbs and i can do a lot more.

**not looking to get flamed about how my truck has no resale... i like it the way it is, but just to give you some ideas on how to loose weight.


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big_torque
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3/23/2003
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Hey intenseDak ,

Just wondering what is "hole in bed" ?

And you gutted the tailgate ? What was in there ?

thx




TurboGuy
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3/23/2003
15:33:24

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Intense...thanks for the reply.
I can understand the weight savings idea...just look at the Z06 Corvette.
Id like to get the truck around 3800lbs and still keep it "streetable" if you know what I mean.
I can appreciate weight savings and all, but I still take babes out on dates in the Dak occasionally.
The tail gate can be done by anyone. You can make your own cross braces with a few scrap peices of aluminum.
Glass can be removed as well. Only problem is that plexiglass will need to be polished to use it at night.
Anyone know how much those NASCAR trucks weigh?



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3/23/2003
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the hole in the bed is kinda what i did. the entire bed floor is cut out, and i installed a few crossmembers in its place. the tailgate, i just bought a skinny tailgate skin and welded that in. also truboboy, There is no replacement for displacement, so buy a v8, i dont wanna hear a dakota go shoowssshhhh ppsssssshhh



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3/23/2003
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Gaykramer...you should thank your lucky stars your dad humped a hole in his 1958 Ford to have offspring like you.
Instead of cutting holes, why dont you guys just have a bed mold made of fiberglass or carbon fiber?



Abe
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3/23/2003
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I guess you V6'ers don't have to worry about traction.



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3/23/2003
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TurboGUy, Id like to see you run 9's on that streetbike. It takes a lot of balls and skill to get one of those through the light in under 10 seconds....

You know another way to lose 50 lbs and go fast. Eat less and work out ya fat bastards

Just joking...hehe

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3/24/2003
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Well Crusty...where do you live??
I do travel with my street bike alot.

Whats so hard about going 9s? I had a 750 that could go 9s on back in 1991. My 02 1200 goes 9.90s right off the showroom floor. Add an exhaust and a few other mods and its in the 30s. Little dry shot with a 34 jet will get me close to 8s I hope. And my warranty is still intact!
Nowadays if you cant get a streetbike to go low, low 8s....you aint sheit. Most "streetbike" class drag races have at least 3 racers that dip into the 7s on a street bike, no wheelie bars, DOT tire and 68" of wheelbase
Unfortunately I dont have the motivation to build a car to go that fast. Its sooo much easier to go fast on a bike.



.alex.
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3/24/2003
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Wow, looks like I missed a lot over the weekend.

Well, Tony C. and his R/T weigh 3600 lbs with him in it, due to weight savings. First off, it's a reg cab truck. Secondly, it's not a "street truck" or whatever you want to call it. He drives it to local events, but you wouldn't want to go on any 6 hour trips in it. It's not his daily driver. He has a 15-sec truck that he drives daily. Therefore he's not worried about A/C, stereo, carpet, etc etc etc... and he's DEFINITELY not worried about re-sale value. He bought this truck used, and that would make whoever buys it next the 3rd owner.


Not much value there, except that it's the quickest naturally aspirated R/T that still has the stock heads and stock bottom end. In the whole country.

That's about all the value you're gonna get.

A basic rule for all of you:
***Never Race Your Street Car. Never Street Your Race Car.***

Until you have a purpose-built racer, you will always be frustrated by how slow it is. Until you have a purpose-built street ride, you will always be disappointed in how noisy and harsh everything is....

It's that simple.



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3/24/2003
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Alex, thanks for the clarification. I can see the weight savings now. I understand about the race truck vs street truck.
I personally prefer a "street truck", because it will get used on trips. I like to keep it reliable and use pump gas too.



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