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Josh Wilhite
Dodge Dakota
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3/06/2003
15:51:47
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 Subject: Timing???
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A buddy of mine has a V6 ram that he took to a shop because of stalling. Before he took it there, we changed:
Distributor cap/rotor
Spark plugs
MAP sensor
IAC solenoid
Battery
Battery cables
Catalytic converter
Cleaned Throttle body
It would idle fine, then just die. Also, when taking off/low rpms, the truck would sputter, backfire, sputter, then was fine after about 2000rpm. Anyway, now to the question:
The guy at the shop said he thought is was the distributor. He changed it, and now he is trying to "adjust the timing". I quickly told him to tell the guy at the shop that you can't adjust the timing with the distributor. Well, the guy at the shop said that he has to use a voltage meter to adjust it, and adjusting the timing on a V6 dodge is "a bear". How the hell can you adjust the timing with a voltage meter? My guess is the guy screwed it up by trying to turn the distributor to adjust it. What do you think?
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DakotaDan
*GenIII*
3/06/2003
17:20:51
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This may be what the guy is tring to do
Distributor Indexing
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Vehicles may exhibit surging, light bucking, or intermittent engine misfiring. This will most likely occur when the vehicle is at operating temperature, and under a light load at approximately 2000 RPM. This condition may be caused by a mis-indexed distributor. The following procedure is an alternative to the indexing procedure outlined in the service manual.
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
This procedure outlines an alternative distributor indexing procedure.
Connect a voltmeter to the distributor sensor connector by removing the end seal and carefully back probing the connector. Connect the positive lead to the sensor output pin (pin 3, either a tan wire with a yellow tracer or a gray wire, depending on vehicle application). Connect the negative lead to the sensor ground pin (pin 2, a black wire with a light blue tracer).
Rotate the engine clockwise as viewed from the front, until the number one piston is at Top Dead Center (TDC) of the compression stroke. The timing mark on the vibration damper should line up with the zero degree
(TDC) mark on the timing chain case cover.
Continue to rotate the engine slowly clockwise until the V6 or V8 mark (depending on engine type) lines up with the zero degree (TDC) mark on the timing chain case cover. The V8 mark is 17.5°after TDC and the V6 mark is 147°after TDC. NOTE: DO NOT ROTATE THE ENGINE COUNTER CLOCKWISE. IF THE ENGINE IS ROTATED BEYOND THE MARK, RETURN TO STEP 2 AND REPEAT THE PROCEDURE.
Loosen the distributor clamp bolt.
With the ignition switch in the ON position, rotate the distributor slightly in either direction until the voltmeter switches between the sensor transition point of 0 and 5 volts.
Adjust the distributor as close as possible to either side of this transition point and tighten the distributor clamp bolt to 19-26 N-m (170-230 in.lbs.) .
Dan
Next Time You Think You're Perfect
~~~~~Try Walking On Water~~~~~
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Josh Wilhite
Dodge Dakota
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3/06/2003
18:53:09
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Great info Dan. Thanks!
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DakotaDan
*GenIII*
3/06/2003
19:50:41
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>Josh that came from Speedtweaks site
http://www.speedtweaks.net/tips_tricks_D.html
>Here are some other good sites for info.
http://www.fast4x4.net/
http://dodgeram.org/
http://www.dakota-durango.com/performancetips.html
>BTW the timing on computer controled vehicles is non adjustable the PCM has control over it.
Dan
Next Time You Think You're Perfect
~~~~~Try Walking On Water~~~~~
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