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2/20/2003
07:59:12

Subject: 1.7 rollers rockers
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hey guys...whats up

i get this ticking noise on acceleration but when truck is idling its quiet no tick tick tick sound.... is that normal on the 5.9 or should i adjust rockers one more time.





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2/20/2003
09:35:19

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The way you describe it-- sounds like you have an exhaust leak. Do have headers perhaps??? (A header gasket leak, and rocker noise can sound VERY similar).

If you don't have headers, it's best to go through and readjust all of them on one side (in the proper procedure). Looking for just one isn't really easy (more of a miss than hit type of thing).

Being that it's during engine load (accelerating)-- that really sounds like a exhaust leak (been there done that).

Let me know.

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2/20/2003
10:00:39

RE: 1.7 rollers rockers
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good tip thanks.

i think that might be it i did retorque the header bolts as hard as i can while i had the valve covers off i might of torqued them a bit too much:)




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2/20/2003
10:36:48

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What kind of header gaskets are you using?

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2/20/2003
12:50:20

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the gaskets are mopar they came with the mopar headers as a kit i have had them on for two years with no problems..
installed the mopar rockers last week and retorqued the header bolts at the same time



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2/20/2003
13:27:29

RE: 1.7 rollers rockers
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ur the first person i have heard of using the mopar rockers...no one i know likes em...how are they..



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2/20/2003
14:51:55

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Jake they are blue rollers rockers made by crane cams 450 bucks out the door everything included was a very easy install too bout 3-4 hours i had a friend turn the crank from under the truck as i adjusted the valve lash to zero then 1/4 turn and lock...
my first impression was that they were a waste of money i couldnt tell any real difference from stock THEN couple days later i was doing like 35-40 i look in my rear view mirror this new black envoy on my tail i hit the throttle tranny kicks dawn to second gear and wwoooowww truck kept pullin real hard i actually felt the difference...



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2/21/2003
00:47:17

RE: 1.7 rollers rockers
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It is prob your header gasket mine is doing the same... it jsut takes a lil time to change them and they are pain to get too let alone tighten




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2/21/2003
09:32:52

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i suggest you remove valve covers first to do the header gaskets much easier to get at the bolts that way



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2/21/2003
10:02:53

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Not really sure about removing the valve covers to do the header gaskets!?!!? That doesn't make any sense.

First off-- 1/4 turn past Zero lash probably isn't enough-- I do 3/4-1 turn on Crower rockers.

Mopar rockers are notorious for having problems with the studs loosening-- The double-nut to torque then down trick isn't always 100%. Make sure you don't have a loose stud, and then readjust your rockers (all of them), AT LEAST 1/2 a turn past zero lash-- I would do 3/4 personally and see how that goes--

You can check a header leak with a small piece of tubing/hose... put it to your ear and the other end of the areas near the header. To check it under load, have a friend put the truck in gear, brake on (E brake and foot brake), and slowly load the engine-- The ticking sound will mostly likely show itself then. If the engine is cold when you do this, you can (for a short period of time) take your hand and run it around the various areas of your headers you suspect to have a leak. These leaks can be felt sometimes, and sometimes not.

Header gaskets can be replaced without removing the valve covers... you can unbolt them with shorty 3/8" wrench, and also a long 3/8" (get both, throw them in the glove box for future tightening). Unbolt the headers, and you can pull them off of the heads, and slip out the old gaskets. PPH/Mopar headers use BISON (I think that's it) gaskets-- and they are very good quality gaskets (they will take a few loose header/retighten episodes without fully burning-- unlike MR. Gasket or others that will turn to crap upon the first 'leak').

If you need more gaskets, let me know, I can get them.

Sam

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2/21/2003
15:57:36

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Hi Sam,...

i dont think im going to change the gaskets any time soon ill just live with it for now..

thanks





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2/21/2003
16:23:26

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If you do have an exhaust leak, you can potentially burn a valve if it's not corrected. I wouldn't let it go too long.

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2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
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2/21/2003
20:12:55

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can other studs be used that actually have a hex
to tighten them into the head with? If so are they the same as sb Chevy?



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