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ChadH
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1/11/2003
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I see a lot of newer Dakota et's but was just curious how the older 318 magnum Dakotas here run, and with what modifications?
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Chad
94 SB 318 5spd 2WD
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tj318
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2003
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1992 V8 4x4 Dakota
Long Bed, Auto, 46RH
3.90s, DT Headers
Port/Polished TB
MP Computer, FM Muffler
Functional RamAir Hood
15.74@87.59
2.385 60'
4400 lbs race weight
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Ginther
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2003
04:09:25
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My old Dak ran a 15.8 stock, when it was about a year old. 93 ClubCab 318 v8 auto tranny.
All I did to it was let the tailgate down, and pulled the air filter off.
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Hoss318
Dodge Dakota
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1/11/2003
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95 RC 318 3.21 peg leg
Ram Air hood, F&B TB, Jon Smith intake, MP Computer, MP Headers, 2.5" cat-back, 180 Tstat, MSD 6AL and Blaster 3 Coil with 8.5mm wires.
My best was a 14.679 under ideal conditions.
With a 3.92 instead of a 3.21 I probably would have seen 13s easy.
R/Trottmann
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ChadH
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1/11/2003
19:49:04
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Thanks guys. Good running trucks.
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dakotart92
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1/12/2003
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Ran 14.2 on street tires in my '92 360/5-speed truck. This is with a 3.21 one wheel peel, r/t 1.92 heads, Thorley headers, flowmaster, and k&n.
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b1llyw
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1/12/2003
22:10:30
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Hey, Dakotart92, what tranny/rear end are you running in that truck?
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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dakotart92
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2003
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b1llyw,
I am running the AX-15 tranny that came with the stock v-6. I am also running the stock 8-1/4 rear. I thought that this combo would not last a fraction of the 3 years it has been behind the 360, but it has held up very well. I will eventually have to do a tremec tko and an 8-3/4.
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b1llyw
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1/13/2003
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That's good to hear. I'm about to put a 408 in front of the NV3500 and 8 1/4 in my '95. I'm sure a TKO will be in my future also.
Bill White
2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
1995 CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
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Neil
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2003
16:02:22
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the ax-15 is a manual trans right? If so i wonder if this is the trans that i have in my truck. It would be very nice seeing that i am hopefully dropping in a 5.2 or 5.9 in the near future.
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2003
16:18:06
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This guy is a buddy of mine.... doesn't have this 1995 Dakota anymore, but here's a partial list of mods:
360 ci
mildly worked heads
Mopar Performance RT cam
headers
home-brew throttlebody (factory 2 bbl massaged)
Mopar Performance Computer
M1 4 bbl manifold
1.6 full-rollerized rockers & thicker pushrods
Vortec SC @ 6-7 psi
75 shot of juice
904 torqueflite with reverse pattern full-manual valvebody
8 3/4" rear with 4.10 gear
28" tall Mickey ET Streets
Lakewood Slapper bars
True Dual 3" exhaust, no cats
2800 stall converter
MSD box, coil, wires, retard, etc....
12.20's on the supercharger
11.50's on the juice.
This was back in 1997 when Bernd was workin on Chevies and none of ya'll had heard of the internet.....
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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1/13/2003
17:07:16
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PS- While the 360 motor was getting broken in, with no supercharger, the naturally aspirated version would run 13.4's to 13.2's with no problems.
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Archie
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1/13/2003
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Alex, I have a 92 MPI 360 runs 13.80.(VERY PLEASED)But I'm thinking about twin turbos and I was wondering if you or anybody out there could give me any info on injecter size,timing con.,ect..What did the 95 run for injecters?
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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1/14/2003
08:24:41
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As far as I know, the 95 was running factory injectors up to the last.... he killed an injector one day at the track and borrowed one from my V-6 truck to make the last runs of the bracket race.... So at least a PIECE of my V-6 went 13's that season. Hahahahah
Anyhow, if you are going to step up to twin turbo's you will need an auxillary fuel pump or a much larger in-tank pump, probably an Fuel Management Unit and if you go high on boost (10-14 psi) then you will need to step up to 21# or 24# injectors. This will cause your idle to be crappy and it will run rich when not in boost, but there are electronic solutions to thin out the fuel situation. I would suggest calling Marty Fletcher at KRC Perfomance (www.krcperformance.com) and asking his opinion. He's got at least one 11-sec Gen II truck and maybe a few others that are really fast. He's got lots of Magnum experience.
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Archie
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1/14/2003
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Thanks, I'll try that site.I'm currently running 19# stock STANG! I know cross breed. I wrench for a Dodge dealer so I have access to scan tool and that says the 19# rnot too lean,but plug colour woukd suggest otherwise.So I thought with turbos upwards of 30#? Got some info from a chic in U.S. running a Stocker and shes running stock 2.5 turbo injecters. What ever size they are? If anybody knows let me know.That might be the cheep way.Alex, the 3.9 and 5.9 injecters are the same, and Ithought that buddy's truck run 12.20 not 13's?
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.alex.
Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2003
08:54:25
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That particular day, he was running naturally aspirated (he cracked on block and had to rebuild the 360 so he was letting it break in) and it was still good for 13.40's.....
I know that the Fords run huge injectors in their turbo applications, but our trucks are speed-density style systems and the computer can't handle an injector that large without some piggy-back electronics to help it idle and operate under closed loop. I'd say depending on your boost levels, you could probably get away with 24# injectors. Even if they are Ford Motorsport Injectors. Those are made by Bosch and are much higher quality than the Siemans injectors that come from the factory.....
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Archie
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1/15/2003
21:57:17
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Thanks I'm just starting togather up some parts. Got until May before race season!
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KennyQuaethem
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1/16/2003
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my 92 ext cab 2x4 318 runs a 14.68@96mph, MP comp, custom exhaust, K&N filters, and a 95 L/S rear end w/ 3.55 gears.
Kenny
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