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12/12/2002
01:40:36

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how long did it take? did anything unexpected pop up?

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12/12/2002
03:00:02

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Damn man, is the dash and steering wheel the only thing left that you actually got when you bought the truck?



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12/12/2002
11:47:35

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LOL...you forgot the carpet and hood

~Eric
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12/12/2002
11:50:47

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Me and my uncle did the one in my truck and it took 10 hours..... That was without a hoist, dealing with the trans cross memeber was the worst. Putting the clutch in itself was simple.....There is a flywheel sensor on the passenger side near the top of the engine/bell houseing, don't forget to take it out, cause it will hold the trans and not let it out.

A couple months ago I did the clutch on my friends 5.0 stang and it took me 8 hours.





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12/12/2002
21:01:03

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Fairly straight forward, except having to remove the oil filter to get to a bolt that threads from the block into the transmission...you'll see.

Other than that, it should only take around 6 to 8 hours if you have a buddy to help wrestle the trans in and out of the truck.

Oh yeah, I'm sure that you will do this anyway, but go ahead and replace your throw out bearing while it's out. I heard of a fella that replaced his clutch, and then had to pull it all back out shortly after to replace the throw-out bearing.



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12/12/2002
21:44:47

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are there any hard to reach bolts? like on top of the trans?
also, did you have to take out the starter? (i know its probably not hard, im just wondering if you have to)

i am getting a new bearing

~Eric
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12/13/2002
00:01:46

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No there aren't any "real" hard bolts to get to, and yes you will have to pull the starter too.

Of course the top bolts are the worst to get to, but with a few long extension and a steady hand, you can tilt the engine back and fish the socket up to the bellhousing bolts. Or if you have the reach, you can "feel" around and get the top bolts. I'm 6'5" so my arms will reach halfway across the engine compartment, so getting to any bolt like that isn't too big of a problem.

Is this just a "routine" clutch job, or did that Powerdyne finish it off?





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12/13/2002
00:09:51

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its fine, but it dosent feel as solid as it could be.

i figure i have 86k on the stock clutch, and im going to have to eventualy replace it, so i might as well do it now with a good unit.

~Eric
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12/17/2002
10:41:46

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What clutch are you going with, stock center force or what? I do agree change your throw out bearing and also recomend you have the flywheel resurfaced.The clutch in the truck is 11" diaphram type. Also change the pilot bearing and grease lightly the input shaft of the trannie.



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12/17/2002
21:26:27

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im going with the stage III centerforce

~Eric
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12/18/2002
09:11:17

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Eric, I've got to put a new clutch in my '95, especially with installing a 408.

With 90K on my tranny, I'm a little concerned about going with a Centerforce III. I'm afraid that the clutch grabbing that hard won't be good for the higher mileage tranny. I may go with a Centerforce II instead. What do you think?

Of course, the KRC/Keisler tranny will probably be in my future eventually but that's on hold.

Bill White - 2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 9.25, 1995 Dakota CC, 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 8.25

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12/18/2002
14:38:52

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Bill, i wanted to go with the stage II as well, but was told they no longer make it. i dont know if its true or not. i have heard a lot of good comments on the dual friction, and decided on going with it.

marty said something about 408's that he built ripping the stage III apart in a short period of time, so i dont know if a stage II would be a better choice. you might just want to cruse around on street tires untill you can beef up the trans.

are you putting a supercharger on the 408?

~Eric
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12/18/2002
14:48:13

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No blower on the 408 this time. It's going to be a very streetable. KRC 210 cam, Mildly ported 2.02 R/T heads, etc. Marty is blowing clutches apart with 500+ hp trucks. I'm only shooting for 325-350 rwhp.

I've got to replace the clutch anyway, the current one is pretty shot. I called Centerforce this morning. Their tech agreed that the Centerforce II would be good for my application. He made no mention of it being discontinued.

Bill White - 2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 9.25, 1995 Dakota CC, 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 8.25

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12/18/2002
14:54:49

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maby i will rethink my purchace...i know duner is running the stage II clutch on his 12.3 sec 5 speed.

i dont think the clutch is going to be the thing that saves the trans. the stage II is still like 60% stronger than stock, and i dont think it will not slip.

~Eric
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12/18/2002
15:14:03

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I knew about Duner too and that's one of the factors I took into consideration. I think the Centerforce II will work well. Here's the part numbers:

CFT972972 - clutch kit
N1764 - throwout bearing

Mancini Racing has the clutch for $314 and the throwout bearing for $40. Let me know if you find a better price, I haven't bought mine yet.

Bill White - 2002 QC 4x4, SLT , 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 9.25, 1995 Dakota CC, 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 8.25

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12/18/2002
15:46:49

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A little cheaper here
http://www.performanceintl.com/shop/detail.cgi?comp=cf_dom&make=DODGE&model=DAKOTA&year=2000&desc=4.7L%20ENG.



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12/19/2002
01:23:20

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john mercedes quoted me $365 shipped for the stage III clutch, pressure plate, and TO bearing

ill see if the stage II is cheaper

~Eric
superdupercharged, M-1, 1.7 RR's, 52mm TB, ceramic headers, 3" carsound cat, and gibson muffler

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