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kota on 20s
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11/21/2002
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how often does the stock timing chain go out, or bad? i heard they suck really bad.
how hard are they to change on a V8? im thinking of going with a comp cams double roller.
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
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crappy
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11/21/2002
04:05:41
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about 2 weeks, the same time it takes milk to exper.
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kota on 20s
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11/21/2002
04:07:06
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that was a verry dumb post
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
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dogliftsleg
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11/21/2002
04:13:24
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you don`t know how to change a timing chain, and you have a blower?? you`ve got to be the dumbest a$$ on the site! it`s one of easiest thing on a smallblock to change. pull belts, pulley, water pump its right there in front of you under the cover behind harmonic balancer.
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fxstc
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11/21/2002
07:28:26
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it's easy considering the parts are inexpensive i would change it at about 50,000 miles if you have the oem chain. A good bouble roller you can go to 80,000 miles. If your motor is blown go with a bouble roller it can handle the stress better.
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Deep Purple
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11/21/2002
07:29:04
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Factory chain should make at least 60/70k miles before they show fatigue.From the posts on chaines, I can see the Dak chain is fairly weak. A double roller is the way to go, be sure to replace the tensioner and the water pump bypass hose. They'er not overly hard, if you changed a chain before and have the tools. Do you have a motor book to go by? Myself, I'm just a little old for timing chains.
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Hey, you
Dodge Dakota
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11/21/2002
08:38:26
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Hhhheeeyyyyy,
dogliftsleg,
Go lift it somewhere else! If you have a DC product, or better yet a dak, then lighten up.
What's a matter, your master beat you this morning and you're taking it out a a fellow dak owner?
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ME 111
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11/21/2002
09:07:26
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Better change mine soon before the snow starts as I'm at 65K miles now. Any recommendations on a double roller would be appreciated.
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52mm TB - HomeBrewed K&N Intake, 3923 AutoLites, Taylor 8mm wires, TPS @.73 , 180 TStat , Falken 285/60/R17s on Rear, RoadMaster Active Suspension, SS rollpan, XTang soft Tonneau, Mopar Bra
And one Heavy Foot
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big_torque
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11/21/2002
09:12:04
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I have the JP Performance dbl roller timing chain from KRC. He recommended it and he runs em in his trucks.
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Dakota39M
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11/21/2002
09:43:57
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Hmmmmmm....So how do you know if the factory chain requires replacement? I have no reason to believe the factory chain has ever been changed in my truck. I bought it used with 18K miles on it and currently it has over 90K miles. I keep it well tuned up and change the oil every 5000 miles or so. I run it nearly 100 miles daily round trip to work and I've taken it on a few trips from Delaware to North Carolina. I also use it to tow my boat occasionally. To date, I have noticed nothing that would make me suspect my timing chain is fatigued or in need of replacement. So again, what indications would I get that my timing chain is about to bite the bullet? I'm not worried about changing the chain myself, if I could tear apart and re-assemble jet engines, I can do a timing chain.
Ray Irons
Dover, DE
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kota on 20s
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11/21/2002
12:04:07
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hey mutt, i mean dog, you have obviously never installed a blower! its a pice of cake!
i never said i COULDNT do it, i have just NEVER done it before, so how the hell am i sopose to know what to expect?
before you come talking $hit on this thread, why not answering my post to you on the offtopic board?
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
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Dakota39M
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11/21/2002
12:17:50
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Chill Eric,
You gotta remeber the mentality of dogliftsleg. Think about it, how smart can he be if he gets his kicks off flamming you for asking a simple question. He's too chicken to even include his e-mail addy with his BS name. Just remember... a dog lifts his leg for 2 things.....
1. Peeing on a tire.
2. Licking his nutz sack.
As often as he lifts his leg, what do think he is doing more of?
Just food for thought
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kota on 20s
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11/21/2002
12:33:56
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LMFAO!! HAHAHAHA
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ceramic JBA headers, 3
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EyeTrip
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11/21/2002
13:15:58
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I have to admire a good rip
Dakota39M, I have to hand it to ya ... that was good. LMAO
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EyeTrip
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11/21/2002
13:20:45
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My 93 v6 had a chain slap at 13k and I beat the hell out of it for 135k mlies after that. I know it was a bad thing, but even though it was rattling it wouldn't give up.
I'm thinking when I do my cam in the BLOWN R/T, I mite try a gear drive setup.
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fxstc
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11/21/2002
13:41:09
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Dakota39m
At 90K miles your timing chain is sloppy. You might not feel any power loss because it happend over time not all of a sudden. If it does break which is highly unlikely but has happend your going to buy more than just a chain possably a new top end. Not to mention it's cheap insurance.
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Dakota39M
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11/21/2002
14:06:35
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Well then. I guess I have a decision to make and soon. Do I want to just keep on running what I have and hope it holds together or start saving for new cam, roller rockers, lifters, and double roller timing chain. I figure that if I'm going to tear into the front end on the motor, I might as well go all the way in and ugrade the whole deal. My original question remain unanswered....how can I tell if the chain is getting ready to fail? Does it start making noises or does it just break? I have to look at a good parts break down on the motor but I don't believe the valve are that close to the top of the piston that they would clip them if the chain broke. I do know that is usually a problem with overhead cam engines. If I keep my fingers crossed that it holds together, I can save my money for a new Dak when they start putting the Hemi in them. Now if that won't be a change...3.9L to Hemi...
Stop the Drool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray Irons
Dover, DE
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sandman
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11/21/2002
17:11:52
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Timeing belts=50,000-65,000 average but their are some exceptions. Chains=80,000 to 120,000. When you change your chain change the sprokets as well. A double roller is always a good investment. If ever a parts guy ask's you if you want the quite sprocket or the noisy one get the noisy one. The quite one is nylon and wears out fast and the noisy one is made out of heat treated steel and will wear much longer!!
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Mark
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11/21/2002
17:24:30
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Lets keep it clean guys.
-Mark Hryckiewicz
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Mr.Sleepy
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11/21/2002
18:03:39
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100k change it.... or tighten it up depending on your driving habits.
After the first 100k, change it every 80k!
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Lab Rat
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11/21/2002
19:35:54
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Have to agree with sandman. I had the factory nylon gear in an older 318 (5.2). Once worn, it wouldn't idle, died frequently and the timing was all over the place at idle. Go with a quality true double roller, Cloyes is one i'd recommend.
LR
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dogliftsleg
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11/21/2002
20:21:29
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and says somebody wrote under my name I was at work with no internet connection available at the date and time the guy posted.
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dogliftsleg
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11/21/2002
20:35:29
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Give a dog a bone, leave a dog alone, let the dog find his own way home!! sorry guys just couldn`t help myself, i`m a smart___ just tring to have some fun.
WOOF WOOF WOOF
I WILL NOT POOP ON THE RUG AGAIN!!!
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Do it Right
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11/22/2002
05:10:16
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Kota on 20s, Not sure how to check for loose timing chain , I tow a trailor 99% of my driving .I now have 55k miles as of yesterday.I am changing to double rollers .Check out timing chain information at hughes engines . I will be center lining my cam at the same time . I got my tools from www.powerhouseproducts.com .Be sure to change front main seal at the same time .Larry
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kota on 20s
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11/22/2002
12:41:26
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hey, thanks for the info!
-Eric
Injection is nice, but i'd rather be blown.
5.2L, 5speed. Powerdyne SC, 50mm TB, 2bbl M-1, 1.7RR's, MSD 6BTM, ceramic JBA headers, 3
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MikeD
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11/22/2002
13:26:43
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The only time consuming thing about it is you gotta disassemble all the AC and alternator brackets and keeping track of what screws go where. Other than that its simple.
~Mike~
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